Dopey Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Hello all, Seeing the thread about Tyreke possibly seeking a trade, I wanted to pick back up on this subject. My original post mentioned the AFCW upgrading QB talent, big time as a reason for not building our team to beat KC. Since then, I have thought of the playoff run the Chiefs have been on over the past few years. They've had quite a run. Thing is, I remember our 90's Bills going on a sustained run and it was awesome(save for the SB's), but after so many seasons played AND the extra playoff games, there comes a point where our key guys were just worn down. Everyone seems to "get up" for you more so than, say the Jets. Playing the Bills at that time was the "Super Bowl" for a lot of teams. With KC, not only has the division gotten a lot tougher, but key guys are getting older or seeking to get paid. Kelcey is 32 yrs old, I believe and he has a lot of wear on those tires. Honey badger left for more $. A glance at their roster doesn't show a ton of players over 30 years old, but the key players have to be wearing down after a long playoff run. I believe Kelcey has played an extra 15 games over the course of his time here. That's almost a full extra season for such a key player. A few players nearing the age of 30 will probably feel this effect too. If Tyreke stays, he's 28 and has a ton of wear with the extra games played. Just curious if anyone thinks their time is up due to these extra games wearing them down over the past few years. Thoughts and thanks. EDIT: Tyreke gone to Miami. Changes this, drastically. Edited March 23, 2022 by Dopey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 well not anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Easily not even close to the best team in their division anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I say in the west its LAC at least on paper right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Greg S said: I say in the west its LAC at least on paper right now. agreed, but the Raiders can be sneaky good this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 As much talent has come to the AFC - it seems like the Bills should now be clear faves, at least for this season. We have arguably the weakest division, and the AFCW is brutal. The #1 seed is never a given, but we have a great opportunity to snag it this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I hope not. The AFC is loaded with teams who could run a late season hot streak right into a championship. The conference is a dogfight. Which makes McChoke’s 13 sec gaffe loom larger. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Buddy Hix said: I hope not. The AFC is loaded with teams who could run a late season hot streak right into a championship. The conference is a dogfight. Which makes McChoke’s 13 sec gaffe loom larger. Ancient history to me. GO BILLS!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I would say "YES" for now, though KC just got a lot more beatable now that Tyreek has moved on. As long as they have top coaching and Mahomes, they'll remain a huge problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Mahommes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dopey said: Ancient history to me. GO BILLS!!! Fair enough. The more competitive the conference gets, the more I worry McChoke blew this team’s best chance. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Buddy Hix said: Fair enough. The more competitive the conference gets, the more I worry McChoke blew this team’s best chance. Time will tell. Andy Reid to over a decade to "learn" before winning his 1st. We're all in right now. Now is not the time to change coaches, IMO. Now, if we blow chunks this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 The AFC is loaded, we better be ready for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Afc west gonna beat up on each other. nobody is running that division. we have as good a shot at the 1 seed and buy as anyone other than green bay or tampa. Get homefield and lets go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 It's going to depend on what they do with the draft picks and cap space. They could get a speedster like Jameson Williams plus have a ton of cap space to sign back Honey Badger and another good safety and actually be better off than before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) I honestly think the west/north are going to clock each other. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Tennessee isn’t creeping towards the 1 seed again cause the south is trash. Edited March 23, 2022 by 78thealltimegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 In my opinion, it's not just a gimmicky passing league like KC was doing. The Bills should not model themselves after that. You still need to run, stop the run and get after the QB. Tampa Bay a couple years ago is a good example. Yes, they could throw with Brady and had very good WR's. But they could still run very effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Curious to see what Kc does. They are not nearly as scary without Hill. He is a unicorn. Paired with Mahomes it was a sight to see. I think both Mahomes and Hill will have an adjustment without each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Mat68 said: Curious to see what Kc does. They are not nearly as scary without Hill. He is a unicorn. Paired with Mahomes it was a sight to see. I think both Mahomes and Hill will have an adjustment without each other. They will draft Wr in 1st round, hope we take their guy at 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Awwufelloff said: They will draft Wr in 1st round, hope we take their guy at 25. Hill is not easily replaced imo. Idc what his combine number were he isnt getting caught from behind. Idk, many qbs that will yolo balls to him deep as well. They were a unique pairing. With out Hill they are 100 times easier to defend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Now that Tyreek Hill gone. Not anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 First we want these 4 teams to beat the living crap out of each other throughout the season. Barring any weird weather games or difficulties scheming Hill, we should cake walk thru the east. The goal should be 13 wins and home field throughout. Denver might now be the challenge out of the west? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Kansas City with all those picks could retool nicely if they hit on them. Hill Hurts them in the short term - but probably the right longer term move. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Let's build our team to beat all the teams. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) On 3/17/2022 at 5:56 PM, Dopey said: With the rest of division making moves to upgrade and the QBs now in the AFCW, they might have a hard time just winning they're division. Denver bringing in Wilson Chargers adding a ton of talent The Raiders are the surprise to me in the recent moves they made so far. To me, all of a sudden, the Chiefs might not be the target for us next season. Thoughts? I looked but couldn't find a thread on this topic. Feel free to merge if there is one. The popular theory that we were building to beat the Chiefs was never true in the first place. Beane and McD first focused on the foundations of the team...improve the lines and go find the QB. Then they went out and got some upgrades to weapons for Josh while also building weak spots on the D. Then they went and got Josh an elite weapon and continue building up weaker holes. Then last year they went after fixing our most glaring hole, pass rush. And we finished the season 2nd in the NFL in pressures as a result of it. Now this year, they focused on converting those pressures into more finishes and signed Von Miller to go with our young talent and shored up the interior trenches, another weak spot on the team. So, I don't think Beane and McD are doing anything other than looking to close our holes and look for upgrades at our less than stellar positions. I don't think any of their decisions are made based on KC, I think its all about realizing where we are not good enough and trying to make those spots better. Edited March 23, 2022 by Alphadawg7 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathja Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 49 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: Kansas City with all those picks could retool nicely if they hit on them. Hill Hurts them in the short term - but probably the right longer term move. They are now a different team compared to the Chiefs team that we’ve been chasing the last couple of years. Even if they hit on some of these picks, They no longer have the most feared big-play threat in the NFL. At one time they did, but now they don’t. You could say that Tyreek Hill will decline in form/ability or that he already has, so this is a good move for the Chiefs. Either way, as a fan, I fear them less today than I did yesterday. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 This should be a cautionary tale of why you should never build a team with a goal to match up to a specific team. Things are much too fluid. Yes, losses to teams can expose your weaknesses and areas you need to improve. But you build the best team you can and keep in mind the cap ramifications of moves you need to make. I think the Bills are doing a great job of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I think at this point teams are building to beat the Bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 6:02 PM, buffalo2218 said: Yeah I see more than just the Chiefs for a revenge tour. If the Bills fans at highmark pelt Vrabel with batteries when he comes out of the tunnel? I'd be ok with that Maybe just some AAA batteries 😆 don’t want to hurt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) In today's NFL, go and get: Head Coach and Franchise QB. Keep your QB upright and give him some weapons. Be able to take down the opposing QB (pass rush) and take the ball away from him (secondary). Then...hope that your front office's resource allocation and salary cap management is good enough to keep the above core in place (and/or replenished when necessary) and surrounded by enough complementary pieces to keep a championship window open for 5-10 years. Bills are on track. Vegas agrees. Edited March 24, 2022 by Logic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dr. Football said: Maybe just some AAA batteries 😆 don’t want to hurt him. With a meathead that big, he wouldn't even feel a AAA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) The Chargers are now. With Hill gone on an offense that was 100% based on Mahomes/Hill/Kelce, they are now looking up at 3-4 teams IMO. Edited March 24, 2022 by Locomark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Whatever team has the best qb are always the teams to beat. So yes KC is still that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The Chiefs now have 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks, 2 third round picks and 2 fourth round picks in the upcoming draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Chiefs might be third in their division next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Locomark said: The Chargers are now. With Hill gone on an offense that was 100% based on Mahomes/Hill/Kelce, they are now looking up at 3-4 teams IMO. We will see if the chargers can stop the chiefs, Hill or no Hill. They added Mack and jC Jackson but horrendous D last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Guess the Chiefs have inquired about DK and Lockett after the Hill trade 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 8:59 PM, HereComesTheReignAgain said: The Bills are built to beat all adversaries. Beat them into submission and leave them crying on the sideline. If your team is built to beat the best at its best, it should be able to beat lesser teams, and until they prove otherwise, the Broncos, Chargers, and Raiders are still behind the Chiefs. As long as the Chiefs have Mahomes and Reid, they're going to set the bar for the rest of the AFCW and most of the AFC, too, just as Brady and Belichick did for so many years. A future HOF QB coached by a future HOF HC is a prescription for winning a lot of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: Whatever team has the best qb are always the teams to beat. So yes KC is still that team. I am not so sure anymore. Looking at it from a Bills perspective they will have to deal (potentially) with Burrow, Wilson, Herbert, Watson along with Mahomes in the playoffs. The talent of QB's in this conference is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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