Dopey Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I still think Chandler Jones will be signed by us. Addison & Hughes will be gone. Jones & Groot on the outside with AJE & Boogie as depth. The question remains who our 1T will be? ⭐ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, BillMafia716ix said: So you’re telling me for a 2nd and 6th round pick we could’ve had Khalil Mack. How the hell do you pass on that??? Go look at his current contract and his production history the last couple of seasons. That’ll tell you everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 how is it that most every team gets a stud pass rusher on the cheap? Our second round DE Espenesa, Chargers get Mack, Chefs get Ingram, etc. I am a big fan of Beane, but the one thing he has not been able to get is a dominant pass rusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: Lol oh you need to win multiple Super Bowls now huh. Brady had won 3 Superbowls after 4 years as a starter and that’s the benchmark we are gonna use for Allen and Beane? Big talk from a franchise with zero SB wins ever lmao. Exactly ,you're last sentence shows your troll job perfectly This is about talking trash to a franchise with zero super bowl wins ever LOL I would be a fan to the day I died regardless if we ever won one.. cuz we haven't won one in 50+ and I still go.. you just want to take passive aggressive shots at the team The Rams have a 34-year-old quarterback and have to win now so traded everything.. the bills have a young Josh Allen going into his prime and we need to surround him with talent for 10 years Edited March 10, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FluffHead said: Meanwhile Beane taking a buddy nix nap Hey look, we have Nostradamus over here who knows McBeane isn't going to improve our defense because we didn't trade for Khalil Mack. Edited March 10, 2022 by EasternOHBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Do people forget he has a $17M cap hit this year? We couldn't afford him even if we wanted Exactly, some of the fans on here are too stupid to see this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Nothing. Just like 90% of the GM’s in the NFL. That includes the GM’s who are in charge of both teams from the Super Bowl this year. I completely understand that so many people will not be satisfied until there is a Super Bowl trophy in Buffalo, but the position that this team has been in the past two years because of signings and drafts that Brandon Beane has been in charge of has been a great treat for so many of us who have watched this team for decades. So you're saying doing nothing is fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Well, that's not good. Glad we play the AFC North & not the stacked AFC West Division next year (except for KC). Feeling that SB window tightening a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: For sure it did with a 34 year old quarterback Josh is 25 and we can have him here for another 10-15 years.. we need to be smart around him Seattle probably said the same thing with Wilson 2 years ago. If you are not all in to win the SB now, then you are playing the wrong game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: So you’re telling me for a 2nd and 6th round pick we could’ve had Khalil Mack. How the hell do you pass on that??? how do you know we passed on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Beane has been one of the best GMS in the NFL since his tenure began here If you think he's been a malpracticing GM I don't know what you've been watching You play a lot of Madden and you want to see Blockbuster trades I get it It's easy to give credit to Beane for Allen and Diggs (although he could have had a younger, better player that the Vikings drafted with our pick). But I think the biggest problem with all the slobbering over Beane is fans are projecting what they believe and think is going to happen under his watch (i.e. winning a SB someday) vs. the actual reality of the situation. And that reality is a few division titles and one AFC championship blowout loss. And outside of Allen and Diggs trade most of his top draft picks haven't amounted to much so far. This is why a lot of folks feel he'd be better off making a Diggs like trade again but for the defense now. No matter what way you slice it, if Beane doesn't make a power move soon in form of trade or FA signing there is absolutely nothing to indicate this team is going to be among the elite contenders in 2022. They may not even win the division depending on what the Pats and Dolphins do. Allen can't do everything especially with marginal garbage on defense which is still this teams biggest issue regardless of the hollow regular season rankings and stat padding against backups. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Mack was a tremendous player who isn't a tremendous player anymore. Mack's salary correlates with a tremendous player, not the guy he is now. And the Bills aren't going to screw up their salary cap to grab a player whose production is falling off a cliff. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: So you’re telling me for a 2nd and 6th round pick we could’ve had Khalil Mack. How the hell do you pass on that??? This was my first reaction....till I heard how much he is due now and over the next 3 years..... How do we fit him under our cap and still field a competative team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: Seattle probably said the same thing with Wilson 2 years ago. If you are not all in to win the SB now, then you are playing the wrong game. Wilson is 33 Josh is 25... One is on the downside one is entering his prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: With Bosa on the other side... I don't think so That doesn’t guarantee anything, especially if Mack gets injured again. IMO, he’s the new JJ Watt (hope to be wrong). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Exactly, some of the fans on here are too stupid to see this You must know there are multiple ways to deal with his contract and make it happen. Please don't call people stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Is this where we over exaggerate Mack because he’s not a Bill? He hasn’t had double digit sacks since 2018, but I’m sure we are gonna have a ton of people here crying over this as if our shot at a SB is gone without him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Bills have to be feeling the pressure. This is literally the final offseason of friendly Josh Allen cap hits. Have to go for it. No one cares what our cap situation will be like 4 years from now. This move stings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: So you're saying doing nothing is fine? Yes let’s trade for a player who hasn’t played well the last couple of years and has a 17 million cap it this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Utah John said: Mack was a tremendous player who isn't a tremendous player anymore. Mack's salary correlates with a tremendous player, not the guy he is now. And the Bills aren't going to screw up their salary cap to grab a player whose production is falling off a cliff. No they screw it up with guys that aren't any good - see Star, Murphy, Addison, Butler, Jefferson, Feliciano etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Do people forget he has a $17M cap hit this year? We couldn't afford him even if we wanted That's not true at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 dang both west divisions are going to be gauntlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Not a culture guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: It's easy to give credit to Beane for Allen and Diggs (although he could have had a younger, better player that the Vikings drafted with our pick). But I think the biggest problem with all the slobbering over Beane is fans are projecting what they believe and think is going to happen under his watch (i.e. winning a SB someday) vs. the actual reality of the situation. And that reality is a few division titles and one AFC championship blowout loss. And outside of Allen and Diggs trade most of his top draft picks haven't amounted to much so far. This is why a lot of folks feel he'd be better off making a Diggs like trade again but for the defense now. No matter what way you slice it, if Beane doesn't make a power move soon in form of trade or FA signing there is absolutely nothing to indicate this team is going to be among the elite contenders in 2022. They may not even win the division depending on what the Pats and Dolphins do. Allen can't do everything especially with marginal garbage on defense which is still this teams biggest issue regardless of the hollow regular season rankings and stat padding against backups. Geezus. Beane takes a bloated perennial loser, guts it, and turns it into a perennial SB contender after just 2 rebuild years and people act like he’s done nothing and is a bum. He is easily a top 5 GM in the NFL right now, and our future is sky high because of him. But people keep whining about him even though it wasn’t his fault the team on the field couldn’t hold a lead for 13 seconds. 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Exactly ,you're last sentence shows your troll job perfectly This is about talking trash to a franchise with zero super bowl wins ever LOL I would be a fan to the day I died regardless if we ever won one.. cuz we haven't won one in 50+ and I still go.. you just want to take passive aggressive shots at the team The Rams have a 34-year-old quarterback and have to win now so traded everything.. the bills have a young Josh Allen going into his prime and we need to surround him with talent for 10 years You’re too busy trying to be the next Pats dynasty for 20 years. You have to win one before you can win 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: So you're saying doing nothing is fine? Give It a Rest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, FireChans said: You’re too busy trying to be the next Pats dynasty for 20 years. You have to win one before you can win 7. Trust me if 15 years go by and Josh Allen and the bills only won one super bowl I would be satisfied because I love the Buffalo Bills I wouldn't be be crying about the fact he didn't win seven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Is this where we over exaggerate Mack because he’s not a Bill? He hasn’t had double digit sacks since 2018, but I’m sure we are gonna have a ton of people here crying over this as if our shot at a SB is gone without him. Neither did Von Miller who was hurt and had low sack numbers the last few years with Denver. But he had 7 sacks down the stretch for the Rams in about half a season there and also had 4 sacks in the playoffs including 2 in the SB win against the Bengals. I don't care about not getting Mack if something bigger is planned. But if we are sitting here a few months from now looking at a dline with mostly the same guys as last year + another marginal 4 sack a season FA and unproven draft pick I imagine a lot of fans are going to be a bit antsy and truly questioning the long term viability of this current regime. Everyone knows what needs to be done and not just the fanbase.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Jerry Jabber said: Mack hasn’t had double digit sacks since 2018 and only played in seven games last season. I think Mack’s best years are behind him. And his remaining contract is 63.9M over the next 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Let's see how many super bowls this gets the Rams There's been plenty of teams that have made Blockbuster trades and won out free agency and they never won Jack The Patriots and Brady on the other hand never won the off season and won like six super bowls... And they hardly made any big splashes Beane has been plenty aggressive in his regime... he's identified players he's liked whether they worked out or not and gotten them... Moved up for Josh .. moved up for Tremaine.. traded a first for Stef.. has been retaining all of our homegrown players .. he's not been Joe schmo I generally agree, but we need 1 title more than we need 2, 3, 4. Josh is the best dual threat qb ever….. we’d be smart to make sure we get one while he has his legs and his health. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bills have to be feeling the pressure. This is literally the final offseason of friendly Josh Allen cap hits. Have to go for it. No one cares what our cap situation will be like 4 years from now. This move stings. Seems like other teams in the AFC are getting the memo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, TheProcess said: I would’ve gladly given up a 2nd and a 6th for Mack. That’s incredible. Hope we don’t roll out geriatric Hughes and Addison again. I doubt the Bills problem would be the trade compensation. It's the contract. He's nearly a 20 million a year cap hit for the next 3 years. He's 31 now so I'm not sure he doesn't qualify as geriatric. He had less sacks than Addison did in 2021 for that cap hit. I'd rather pay 22-26 million a year for a younger option if they want add a high cap hit player at the position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: This makes me mad. Why not us, Brandon? Yeah Let’s Go Brandon!! WTH 😁😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Trust me if 15 years go by and Josh Allen and the bills only won one super bowl I would be satisfied because I love the Buffalo Bills I wouldn't be be crying about the fact he didn't win seven So let’s go win one instead of worrying about 7. Edited March 10, 2022 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Geezus. Beane takes a bloated perennial loser, guts it, and turns it into a perennial SB contender after just 2 rebuild years and people act like he’s done nothing and is a bum. He is easily a top 5 GM in the NFL right now, and our future is sky high because of him. But people keep whining about him even though it wasn’t his fault the team on the field couldn’t hold a lead for 13 seconds. He's not a bum or a top 5 GM. He's somewhere in between but now is the time for him to truly feed his ego and take this team over the top. I think he may planning to do this behind the scenes but until we see it happen there's reason for concern and why this mack trade is going to generate this type of discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Surely would have done that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Geezus. Beane takes a bloated perennial loser, guts it, and turns it into a perennial SB contender after just 2 rebuild years and people act like he’s done nothing and is a bum. He is easily a top 5 GM in the NFL right now, and our future is sky high because of him. But people keep whining about him even though it wasn’t his fault the team on the field couldn’t hold a lead for 13 seconds. He’s had his share of hits and misses. Luckily for him (and us) his hits are 0-2 bottom on 9, gw grand slam type hits. He’s a very good GM but he has a laundry list of somewhat bad misses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: No they screw it up with guys that aren't any good - see Star, Murphy, Addison, Butler, Jefferson, Feliciano etc.... Yes, it's these tier 2 players that end up being underwhelming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: Seems like other teams in the AFC are getting the memo The Bills are still the betting favorites to win the Super Bowl which makes me believe something big is coming in Buffalo. There's a lot of smoke going around. I do think the Bills will make giant splash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: You must know there are multiple ways to deal with his contract and make it happen. Please don't call people stupid. Who says he’d be willing to take a pay cut. The player has to agree to a contract restructuring before you even attempt to do it. He’s guaranteed 17 million this season and it only goes up more after that. His production has been mediocre at best especially for the Bears we’re paying him. And yes I will call you guys stupid because most of you fans are unrealistic and you guys want things done on a certain time frame. That’s not how any of this works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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