Nihilarian Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Buh Bye Brian...not lyin, I'm not cryin... What a tough place to be a head coach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Kelly's Heroes said: Best News I have heard in some time! Dorsey can leave too and Take Fraizer with them! Dorsey did a great Job with Josh but his development is complete.... Dabol, is not tough enough to withstand the NY media..... He will fail.....and I won't be sad he did. It is exciting to see where the new direction can take us....Maybe some balance and not so many designed QB runs that put our franchise QB at risk. We got one good back in Devin....just need a play caller to give him some carries....Best bang for the buck on the roster in my opinion. Fraizer, well I will say it like this.....YAWN!!!! Boring.....and a coward when the game is on the line.... 2 DEEP ZONE produced 2 major losses both this and last year in the final seconds. What's so difficult about dealing with the NY media? Why would he have a problem with them? 2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Buh Bye Brian...not lyin, I'm not cryin... What a tough place to be a head coach! Head coaches have fared much better there than in Buffalo. 4 Super Bowls in my lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Toodles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: boy, bills fans are sure getting spoiled. I am thinking of years of AVP, Hackett, Gailey, Killdrive, Fairchild, etc. our short yardage go to was pop Warner….Josh student body right ….Chiefs…short yardage….clever plays….This ain’t Alabama….17 gotta last us 10-15 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: Head coaches have fared much better there than in Buffalo. 4 Super Bowls in my lifetime. Buffalo went to 4 super bowls. Granted the Giants won 4 and lost one under Jim Fassel. Bill Parcells won 2x of those with Bill Belichick as his DC. Tom Coughlin 2x had a decent tenure with the Jags (8 seasons) as their HC before getting hired as the Giants HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Brian is a good man and I wish him the best. I hope that Dorsey stays. Our humble QB is comfortable with him and continuity is important. If he should leave then I will miss him and hope that we can find an outstanding replacement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Buffalo went to 4 super bowls. Granted the Giants won 4 and lost one under Jim Fassel. Bill Parcells won 2x of those with Bill Belichick as his DC. Tom Coughlin 2x had a decent tenure with the Jags (8 seasons) as their HC before getting hired as the Giants HC Yeah, they fared better in NY than in Buffalo, as I stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 He was masterful in the playoffs but I do not think he’s a good OC. They peaked under him, they now have a chance to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Is it good for the Bills? Only time will tell. Is it good for me? Kind of, because I don't think I was ever going to be able to fully trust him for 4 qrtrs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Seems like a short sighted move on dorseys part if he leaves the bills for the Giants Good chance you'll get head coach looks being the bills offensive coordinator within a year or 2 Giants is more up in the air He must have a reason for endeavoring to be the next Curtis Modkins...........perhaps McD wasn't sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, klos63 said: Yeah, they fared better in NY than in Buffalo, as I stated. Jersey. There's only one team in NY😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Trubisky is a FA and some feel he's going to get offers to start Trubisky came to Buffalo because he did not want to go to a dung heap which is ironic for that is buffalo are known for dropping large ones. I think he will be choosy on team he goes to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 He has his work cut out for him. They are a train wreck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Best regards for him. He did a helluva job developing Josh. Hope he does well but the Giants atmosphere will make it difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, klos63 said: Yeah, they fared better in NY than in Buffalo, as I stated. Yes, and while Parcells was first time HC with a legend for his DC. He also had George Young as GM. Coughlin had 8 years exp as HC. Daboll is a rookie HC with a rookie GM, both taking over a franchise that hasn't had a winning season for 5 years. 3-13, 5-11, 4-12, 6-10, 4-13. Bottom of the division for awhile now. Currently 31st ranked offense in 2021. Defense 20th or so. Tell me about how the last two NY Giants head coaches did, Joe Judge, Pat Shurmur... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, oldmanfan said: Best regards for him. He did a helluva job developing Josh. Hope he does well but the Giants atmosphere will make it difficult. The Giants atmosphere that has 4 SB titles and has been a relatively successful team over ghe last 40 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 If Dorsey leaves with Daboll, I'm gonna be worried. Stability matters. Especially for young men. What if guys don't click with the next OC. What if Daboll was laid back and the next guy comes in like a drill sergeant. I'd rather keep what these players are familiar with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, stuvian said: He has his work cut out for him. They are a train wreck As an organization yes..but Golladay, Toney, Shephard, Slayton, Engram, Rudolph, Barkley...he's got some weapons. And two top 10 picks. They are also in a terrible division. QB is obviously a major question mark, but there are worse situations to go too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: His last three NFL OC gigs were honestly fairly putrid situations. He's done an amazing job with Josh and this offense. But I agree that the QB basically makes or breaks you as an OC. I think Jones is good enough to make it work assuming he's paired with a competent coaching staff, which he didn't have under Joe Judge. We will see, I guess. Daboll is not the same person he was when he joined the Bills. When he joined the Bills he was screaming at Josh Allen a lot and finally figured out he would do a better job from the booth and things changed. He became a close friend to Josh and a mentor. He learned a lot from Coach McD and Fraizer as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: He must have a reason for endeavoring to be the next Curtis Modkins...........perhaps McD wasn't sold. I was thinking "next Anthony Lynn" but yeah, similar theme. Or even Bienemy, who I believe is regarded rightly or wrongly as standing in Andy Reid's offensive shadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, Nihilarian said: Yes, and while Parcells was first time HC with a legend for his DC. He also had George Young as GM. Coughlin had 8 years exp as HC. Daboll is a rookie HC with a rookie GM, both taking over a franchise that hasn't had a winning season for 5 years. 3-13, 5-11, 4-12, 6-10, 4-13. Bottom of the division for awhile now. Currently 31st ranked offense in 2021. Defense 20th or so. Tell me about how the last two NY Giants head coaches did, Joe Judge, Pat Shurmur... Was Belichick a legend in the 80's? Can we discuss every head coach in Buffalo except for Saban, Knox, Levy and McDermott... over 61 seasons? Is your argument that it's easier to succeed in Buffalo than in NY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Beast said: The Giants atmosphere that has 4 SB titles and has been a relatively successful team over ghe last 40 years? The Giants atmosphere where the owners have resisted changing with the times and micromanaged woth a fan base that will not give him any margin for error. Parcells and Coughlin left a long time ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: As an organization yes..but Golladay, Toney, Shephard, Slayton, Engram, Rudolph, Barkley...he's got some weapons. And two top 10 picks. They are also in a terrible division. QB is obviously a major question mark, but there are worse situations to go too. They need a rebuild, they are in terrible cap situation for a lousy team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, loyal2dagame said: If Dorsey leaves with Daboll, I'm gonna be worried. Stability matters. Especially for young men. What if guys don't click with the next OC. What if Daboll was laid back and the next guy comes in like a drill sergeant. I'd rather keep what these players are familiar with. I get your point, but I really don't think McDermott and Beane are going to hire that guy. McClappy is too positive to let that kind of bad juju in his locker room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Trubisky? He's done more and has better stats than a bunch of guys who are starting or lined up to start. I'm not saying he's a top 10 or a top 15 QB based on last year's performance, but I think he can make a strong case to be better than 8-10 guys who started last season. True but that isn't saying much is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Yes, and while Parcells was first time HC with a legend for his DC. He also had George Young as GM. Coughlin had 8 years exp as HC. Daboll is a rookie HC with a rookie GM, both taking over a franchise that hasn't had a winning season for 5 years. 3-13, 5-11, 4-12, 6-10, 4-13. Bottom of the division for awhile now. Currently 31st ranked offense in 2021. Defense 20th or so. Tell me about how the last two NY Giants head coaches did, Joe Judge, Pat Shurmur... The last two Jiants coaches greatly to do with why they have not had a winning season for 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Beast said: The Giants atmosphere that has 4 SB titles and has been a relatively successful team over ghe last 40 years? Have you watched them since they won the Super Bowl last? They have been the worst team in their conference for the last 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, oldmanfan said: The Giants atmosphere where the owners have resisted changing with the times and micromanaged woth a fan base that will not give him any margin for error. Parcells and Coughlin left a long time ago. They also went to a SB in between those times. The Giants are one of the flagship franchises in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Best regards for him. He did a helluva job developing Josh. Hope he does well but the Giants atmosphere will make it difficult. Josh made Daboll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, Limeaid said: Daboll is not the same person he was when he joined the Bills. When he joined the Bills he was screaming at Josh Allen a lot and finally figured out he would do a better job from the booth and things changed. He became a close friend to Josh and a mentor. He learned a lot from Coach McD and Fraizer as well. I agree with this, but there's an interesting point here. I think Daboll was "led" to the conclusion he'd be better in the booth by McDermott. Daboll has said something to the effect that you get too invested in the play that just ran and it's easier to put it aside and move on to the next from the booth. So....is he ready to stand on the sidelines? Are there any HC who work from the booth on gameday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Disappointed. I wanted him to go to Miami so Frazier would leave and go to the Giants. Now I don't think he is in the running for any other jobs. I don't want Frazier back personally, and its not just because of the Chiefs game, I just think I am ready to see what a new DC does with the pieces we have here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, Chaos said: Josh made Daboll Just not true. Josh had things that had to be corrected. Bills fans need to stop with this kind of crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Have you watched them since they won the Super Bowl last? They have been the worst team in their conference for the last 5 years Um, yeah. And you think tbey are going to be caught in this funk forever? Newsflash: Team can improve after regime changes. Remember 5 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Beast said: They also went to a SB in between those times. The Giants are one of the flagship franchises in the NFL. Were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, oldmanfan said: Just not true. Josh had things that had to be corrected. Bills fans need to stop with this kind of crap. 100% true 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, oldmanfan said: Just not true. Josh had things that had to be corrected. Bills fans need to stop with this kind of crap. You are simply wrong. You need to stop with your crap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Sounds like Daboll and Dorsey are a package deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, Chaos said: You are simply wrong. You need to stop with your crap. So says the dung farmer with piles of wet product he cannot sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Well congrats to him and a big thanks for his time with Bills, but I can honestly say I'm excited to see what the next OC can do with this Offense and the amount of talent it has. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Pederson is not a good fit. He runs the West Coast offense which would be a huge change for Josh. Incidentally that's the offense that Andy Reid and Mahommes run. You need someone fluent in the Erhardt-Perkins offense offense which is what Daboll and Josh run. Daboll learned everything he knows about Erhardt-Perkins from his time at Alabama and being under Nick Saban. That's what Alabama runs to this day so the only logical choice is Bill OBrien the current OC at Alabama. OBrien (former HC for the texans) could come here and run the same offense and run it better than Daboll without missing a beat. Edited January 29, 2022 by JakeFrommStateFarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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