Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: Brian Daboll loves Daniel Jones. Interesting. No wonder they hired him. If he can reclaim DJ, it would be tremendous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Interesting. No wonder they hired him. If he can reclaim DJ, it would be tremendous. DJ is pretty much JA Lite so it’s possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, FFadpecr said: Brian Daboll loves Daniel Jones. Something you say when you want the HC job. Not saying he doesn’t, but I’ll take that with a grain of salt. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Something you say when you want the HC job. Not saying he doesn’t, but I’ll take that with a grain of salt. Of course he's going to say that he loves Daniel Jones. In reality, he might be thinking "need to move on from him quickly." Sports fans love to take what sports personalities say publicly as the truth for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Of course he's going to say that he loves Daniel Jones. In reality, he might be thinking "need to move on from him quickly." Sports fans love to take what sports personalities say publicly as the truth for some reason. The interesting question will be if the Giants bring in Trubisky or not. The Giants OL is a bit of a hot mess. Not sure that is Dabs strength. I see the G-Men drafting/ acquiring OL to try to get the most out of Jones and Barkley. Not certain Trubisky would do well with a poor OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, FFadpecr said: Or, in reality, he really does love Daniel Jones. Not hard to believe at all; Daniel Jones skill-set matches perfectly with Erhardt-Perkins. Stop treating your own personal opinion as fact. It's already known that Belichick, who also runs the Erhardt-Perkins Offense, loved Daniel Jones in the 2019 Draft. Why is this so hard for people to believe? Daboll loves Daniel Jones. We will treat that as fact until proven otherwise (Giants invest high draft pick on a QB, which is unlikely) I am going to assume that he went to the Giants because he loves Jake Fromm. No one has produced a shred of evidence that he dislikes Fromm except him not making the Bills' active roster, but that's something controlled by Sean McDermott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Highly doubt he loves Dan Jones. I don’t think he hates him either. The truth is the middle ground. He wanted a HC job, so said what the owner wanted to hear. If he said Dan Jones has to go, he would still be a Bill. I’m sure he’s going to take the cautious approach and try to salvage the situation. It’s in his best interest to make Dan Jones a gamer, not some other QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, FFadpecr said: No. False. He is being genuine. Daniel Jones skill set is perfect fit for his Edhardt-Perkins system. I understand his system and I understand Daniel Jones' skill-set. It's a perfect fit on a football level. They’ll be drafting a QB in the top 10 in 2023 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, FFadpecr said: No. False. He is being genuine. Daniel Jones skill set is perfect fit for his Edhardt-Perkins system. I understand his system and I understand Daniel Jones' skill-set. It's a perfect fit on a football level. Love when people try to make bad QB look good by picking the most random stat b.c it happens to be the only one that makes him not look bad. Edited January 30, 2022 by TBBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Daniel jones is the perfect QB for a new head coach He somehow develops youre a genius He remains what he has been you get to draft a top 10 QB the next year 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: They’ll be drafting a QB in the top 10 in 2023 Possibly. Depending on how teams around the NFL improve, of course...looking at their schedule for next year I can see 7 or 8 wins. If the Giants can improve their OLine they can improve even with (or in spite of) DJ as the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Daniel jones is the perfect QB for a new head coach He somehow develops youre a genius He remains what he has been you get to draft a top 10 QB the next year On the other hand, what if you coach him to continuous mediocrity? He certainly doesn’t have the talent of Josh, but I could see him coached up to the level of another Jones we all know. But Daboll is no Hoodie either. He could end up with perpetual 8-9 seasons (the new 8-8). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: On the other hand, what if you coach him to continuous mediocrity? He certainly doesn’t have the talent of Josh, but I could see him coached up to the level of another Jones we all know. But Daboll is no Hoodie either. He could end up with perpetual 8-9 seasons (the new 8-8). I think you have to take a hard line with jones. Either he progresses a lot or you move on or at least can't let it stop you from drafting a guy Because you can't get stuck in mediocrity I could see jones developing into exactly what you described Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 6:45 PM, K-9 said: McD’s decisions to go for it on 4h down and convert, did that help the offense “at all?” Good point. I'd like to know if McD had final say on the kickoff with 13 seconds left. Because he should've. That's where a coach should dictate the rest of the game. Kickoff. Defense etc. Not suggesting McD didn't have say. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They’ll be drafting a QB in the top 10 in 2023 I assumed Daboll had followed Jake Fromme to NY 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Good point. I'd like to know if McD had final say on the kickoff with 13 seconds left. Because he should've. That's where a coach should dictate the rest of the game. Kickoff. Defense etc. Not suggesting McD didn't have say. Just curious. All indications are that he called a squib, but that he lost control of the team in the chaos of the celebration after Josh threw that TD with 13 seconds left. It seems that he never got complete control of the team after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: All indications are that he called a squib, but that he lost control of the team in the chaos of the celebration after Josh threw that TD with 13 seconds left. It seems that he never got complete control of the team after that. Says a lot about McD...and not in a good way... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: All indications are that he called a squib, but that he lost control of the team in the chaos of the celebration after Josh threw that TD with 13 seconds left. It seems that he never got complete control of the team after that. Squib or no squib... after that kickoff the Bills defense didn't cover the Chiefs receivers and instead covered the sidelines...KO, touchback to the 25, 2 pass plays Tyreek Hill 19 yards, Travis Kelce 25 yards, 49 yard FG. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 25 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: All indications are that he called a squib, but that he lost control of the team in the chaos of the celebration after Josh threw that TD with 13 seconds left. It seems that he never got complete control of the team after that. Indications? What indications? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rick 'r Mortis said: Indications? What indications? There was an analysis of the all 22 that looked at the line up and the reaction of the players that showed that players expected them to squib or kick ir short. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Well, if its true, he better not take Josh Allen with him!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Listened to an interview on the Giants official website and Daboll kept quoting a phrase McDermott uses all the time, "Growth Mindset". I'm happy we have a leader like McDermott. Obviously Daboll is going to take a lot of what he learned from McDermott to the Giants. Edited January 31, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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colin Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 i live in central nj and see some giant games, and have a lot of gman fan friends. i think their d was pretty good all things considered, and they came out to play when hope was slim, so it makes sense to keep their dc. i wish dabol well since even tho i poo poo'd him a lot, he did obviously work really hard for us. i don't think he's gonna have success though, he's an offensive experimentation guy, i don't think he's meticulous enough to be an effective hc and the microscope in NY/NJ is gonna burn him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, colin said: i live in central nj and see some giant games, and have a lot of gman fan friends. i think their d was pretty good all things considered, and they came out to play when hope was slim, so it makes sense to keep their dc. i wish dabol well since even tho i poo poo'd him a lot, he did obviously work really hard for us. i don't think he's gonna have success though, he's an offensive experimentation guy, i don't think he's meticulous enough to be an effective hc and the microscope in NY/NJ is gonna burn him. Agree completely. Not the right environment for a Mad Scientist type - I wish him well but I don’t think his piles of notebooks will serve him in this role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Oh Daboll is very high alright.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: Jones probably doesn't have the ceiling of Josh Allen "Probably" -- umm, ya think? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 We will see if they pick up his option in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: Oh Daboll is very high alright.... Had to be, running Frank Gore endlessly into the pile on 3rd and 6. 🤨 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: on Daniel Jones. You can deny the truth all you want, but reality is reality. Why do people think they know about NFL QB play than Brian Daboll? This is comical. Daboll loves Daniel Jones. This is an obvious fact. Umm maybe because all these people that are supposed to know QB play can't draft them with any decent success rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Ralph Vacchiano? He was great in the Karate Kid movies. The Cobra Kai show is really good too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, FFadpecr said: on Daniel Jones. You can deny the truth all you want, but reality is reality. I deny that the Bills actually lost last week - I choose to believe they won, then beat Cincy and they're going to the Super Bowl.... doesn't mean that's reality either. 😉 As Mara said... they've done everything to screw Jones up. Can Daboll "rescue" an obviously talented QB and turn him into the next Josh Allen?? I'll have to see if that "reality" actually happens, but I ain't holding ym breath for the Giants. We shall see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Interesting conversation on WGR a few minutes ago. Talked with a NYG writer and asked what the biggest obstacle that Schoen and Daboll would have to overcome and flat out said paraphrasing "making changes to the team without upsetting ownership". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evian Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 You can win a Superbowl with Daniel Jones. You just won't win a Superbowl because of Daniel Jones. Another Nick Foles type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Who gives a ****! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Jones is on the team and daboll is known to be very supportive of his guys. He will be very high on him until he’s not and a move is made… and even then he will likely be positive about the guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, eball said: "Probably" -- umm, ya think? Only one person on the planet has the ceiling of Josh Allen. We shall not see his like again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, FFadpecr said: Bill Belichick (Erhardt-Perkins Offense) loved Daniel Jones in the 2019 Draft. Would have drafted Daniel if he fell to him. For the last 2 years, Daniel Jones was stuck in an antiquated Jason Garrett Air Coryell Offense. A completely outdated Offense in the modern NFL. Brian Daboll (Erhardt-Perkins Offense) understands the above and knows that Daniel is a perfect match for the EPO. Daboll knows scheme fits - he knows Daniel Jones' skill-set is tailor-made for the Erhardt-Perkins system. All that sounds great, but draft position and schemes don't make a QB great. Half (or more depending on who you talk to) of QB success in the NFL is mental. Once you start screwing with a QB's psyche - it's not always something you can just snap your fingers and make all better. Maybe Daboll will be a good fit with Jones, but I think that team has so many issues, it's going to be hard for Daboll to do what he did in Buffalo. imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Any word on Dorsey/OC this morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) This was already discussed with you thoroughly in the Daboll thread yesterday. Not enough attention over there? You seem really dug in on the subject. I don’t think bills fans in general care enough about Daniel Jones or the NYG to really give you the attention you need here though. Edited January 31, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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