Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Process said: Guy hands a third string TE $100M and then says see-ya I mean, technically Mickey Loomis is the GM. I don't know I'm asking .....is he just a yes-man for Payton or what's the deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Question...He has three years left on his contract with New Orleans. Since he was not fired, would there need to be compensation to NO if someone tries to hire him as their head coach? Is he free to take another HC position? Jerruh, is that you? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 It also moves McDermott up to 6th longest tenured current NFL coach. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I think if he leaves GB then Rodgers ends up in IND, PIT, or DEN, in that order of likelihood. Leaving the NFC North will be bad for Rodger's career. I don't see him "owning" any divisional competition from those destinations. He has now what Brady had in the AFC East. Weak divisional foes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Utah John said: This is pretty logical, but you have to look at the AFCN teams too. I think Pittsburgh will have to make a very bold and expensive move to bring in a QB. and it's not clear the Colts are set with Wentz. The Browns keep adding shiny expensive toys sprinkled around their lineup but the downside is lots of guys not good enough to be competitive -- and Mayfield might be out, and the Browns really miss another top receivers. So the Bengals to me are the AFCN favorites going in, and with their schedule, 13-4 doesn't seem out of reach. Don’t sleep on the Ravens playing with a chip after they had 97% of their players put on IR in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Panther’s radio talk host already has him coaching next year after Rhule gets fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Great coach. To get that roster with the three headed ugly monster at QB to 9-8 this year was a hell of a coaching job. I doubt he is done. Just done there. After a year or two out I am pretty sure he comes back. Mike McCarthy's seat just got a LOT hotter. He is the coach Jerry covets the most. Only problem I see is 2 control freaks butting heads. Remember Jimmy Johnson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: Only problem I see is 2 control freaks butting heads. Remember Jimmy Johnson Yea. Think Jerry has realised since winning Superbowl isn't as easy as Jimmy made it appear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, theRalph said: Leaving the NFC North will be bad for Rodger's career. I don't see him "owning" any divisional competition from those destinations. He has now what Brady had in the AFC East. Weak divisional foes. They were discussing that on WGR this morning and made a similar point. They also said IND would be the clear #2 spot. I agree and think he could similarly own the AFC South. TEN, HOU, and JAX could very well be worse than MIN, CHI, and DET, next year after regression to the mean. Plus, working with Reich, the Indy O-line, and Taylor could be enticing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 there’s no way he doesn’t get a current job opening. He’s a great coach and has won a super bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Process said: Guy hands a third string TE $100M and then says see-ya Should of brought in Tebow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: there’s no way he doesn’t get a current job opening. He’s a great coach and has won a super bowl. He might not want one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Jerruh, is that you? You know he has to be champing at the bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: I think he gets a pass as they have a Super Bowl and we have yet to win one Maybe he got a percentage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I will do it first. If Dabol goes to NYG bring in Payton for OC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytownblofan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Question...He has three years left on his contract with New Orleans. Since he was not fired, would there need to be compensation to NO if someone tries to hire him as their head coach? Is he free to take another HC position? Compensation would be required unless NO for some reason terminates his contract. Kinda like when Marshawn came back to the raiders but the Seahawks technically still possessed his contractual rights 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Only problem I see is 2 control freaks butting heads. Remember Jimmy Johnson Yeah, what a disaster that was… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What does this have do with the Bills? Because he gets a pass on paying Taysom Tebow....just because Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: He might not want one. Maybe, but unless he’s got a health problem or family situation, I bet he coaches this year. 8 job openings and probably at least another 15 that would drop their current coach for him. Heck, I like McDermott but I’d be mighty tempted to drop him for Payton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, theRalph said: He obviously is sticking this in someone's rear. Just like that contract 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Great coach. To get that roster with the three headed ugly monster at QB to 9-8 this year was a hell of a coaching job. I doubt he is done. Just done there. After a year or two out I am pretty sure he comes back. Mike McCarthy's seat just got a LOT hotter. He is the coach Jerry covets the most. I think the DC deserves a lot of the credit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I think the DC deserves a lot of the credit. Don't understand when Dennis Allen hasn't had HC looks. Think Chicago spoke to him but they spoke to about 20 people in round 1. I know it was a disaster with the Raiders but he was young and out of his depth in a dysfunctional organisation. He can coach. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I don't know what his contract provides, but generally if he has three years left on his contract he cannot just go elsewhere-- he is obligated to the Saints. It is the flip side of being terminated-- you still get paid over the life of the contract, see, e.g, Rex Ryan. He cannot be forced to work for the Saints, but I believe that the Saints could preclude him from working elsewhere, absent the Saints releasing him in return for other considerations, like cash or draft picks. Again he may have a termination clause in his contract or something, but I do not think you can assume he is free to take another job during the life of the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, NewEra said: My guess is that he’ll “retiring” like urban Meyer retired from Florida . He lost his QB, gave it one season, failed and now it’s time to take a year off Reboot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 45 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Think Mike McCarthy is shaking in his boots? Better yet, is he capable of tying them? 43 minutes ago, Utah John said: Ooooh, good thinking. Yes, the Cowboys would be a very attractive landing, and Payton would look very attractive to Jerry Jones. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, ytownblofan said: Compensation would be required unless NO for some reason terminates his contract. Kinda like when Marshawn came back to the raiders but the Seahawks technically still possessed his contractual rights i think the starting point in the analysis is Sean Payton's actual contract. coaches dont have a CBA with standard provisions. They dont have a salary cap. Payton could easily have leveraged some out-clauses over the years. 24 minutes ago, Casey D said: I don't know what his contract provides, but generally if he has three years left on his contract he cannot just go elsewhere-- he is obligated to the Saints. It is the flip side of being terminated-- you still get paid over the life of the contract, see, e.g, Rex Ryan. He cannot be forced to work for the Saints, but I believe that the Saints could preclude him from working elsewhere, absent the Saints releasing him in return for other considerations, like cash or draft picks. Again he may have a termination clause in his contract or something, but I do not think you can assume he is free to take another job during the life of the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 He'll waive the remaining years of the contract and take a job in broadcasting for a year. Saints keep their money and save face. I know the Cowboys are a trendy pick, but Payton isn't a yes Jerry! guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Wow, going to be much different without him on that sideline. He's been there for a good while. I guess that frees him up for a 'Malcolm In The Middle' reboot... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, MJS said: That puts the Saints behind in their HC search. He should have done this earlier. Eh every opening is still open. Saints will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 So is it Pete Carmichael, Dennis Allen or do they bring back Joe Lombardi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Don't understand when Dennis Allen hasn't had HC looks. Think Chicago spoke to him but they spoke to about 20 people in round 1. I know it was a disaster with the Raiders but he was young and out of his depth in a dysfunctional organisation. He can coach. It’s because of his tenure with the Raiders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Stepping down from a team with no QB and $71m over the cap is what he is doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Also, in before someone suggest we demote McD to DC and hire Payton as HC I don't even want him as defensive coordinator give him a pair of pompoms and that is it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Heading to Amazon: TNF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I think if he leaves GB then Rodgers ends up in IND, PIT, or DEN, in that order of likelihood. Indy has to deal with Wentz money for another year so I’m not sure why people think Rodgers is going there. They have to eat that money some how 15 million if they cut and someone would have to pay him over 28 million to take him on. I guess they could do it if they want to eat the salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Process said: Guy hands a third string TE $100M and then says see-ya They can get out of like 90% of that deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Indy has to deal with Wentz money for another year so I’m not sure why people think Rodgers is going there. They have to eat that money some how 15 million if they cut and someone would have to pay him over 28 million to take him on. I guess they could do it if they want to eat the salary. That or maybe GB would take Wentz in return to bridge/backup Love? Not sure how much cap hit can be transferred to GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytownblofan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, maddenboy said: i think the starting point in the analysis is Sean Payton's actual contract. coaches dont have a CBA with standard provisions. They dont have a salary cap. Payton could easily have leveraged some out-clauses over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Well the Saints will officially be a bottom dweller. Payton is a good coach, he will be back on a new team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: Well the Saints will officially be a bottom dweller. Payton is a good coach, he will be back on a new team next year. I'm not so sure. Watching his presser, he looked tired, broken. I bet he gets a studio gig and enjoys it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 What the next coach will see when he walks into the Saints facility for the first time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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