Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) We should take the time and thank the Browns franchise. Both of our franchises were in the cellar for 2 decades. We got Allen and McDermott to change our franchise and they rejected them. Everyone say thank you. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2018-nfl-draft-all-signs-pointing-to-browns-taking-josh-allen-no-1-overall-right-now/ https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/report-browns-wanted-to-hire-sean-mcdermott-but-owner-disagreed/article_6a84b1df-cfc1-5ba4-b8c0-ec131c070461.html Edited January 20, 2022 by Royale with Cheese 10 1 19 5 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Yea, but they are the preseason champions like 3 years running. 2 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 It’s hard for me to appreciate stupidity 😎 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadlox Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 It’s interesting to think how the draft would have played out for the Bills if the browns did take Allen. I’d assume they still take a Qb, but who? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Haslam and company could eff up a one car funeral. Bonus points for their abilities to fall afoul of the law in the process. 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I'm guessing after that screw up Haslam was stripped of his decision making 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dreadlox said: It’s interesting to think how the draft would have played out for the Bills if the browns did take Allen. I’d assume they still take a Qb, but who? Not Lamar. Possibly the wrong Josh, but unlikely they would have traded up for him. I would guess trade up for Baker or stay put for Mason Rudolph based solely on the leaked image. Edited January 20, 2022 by Rock'em Sock'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Huh? What are we appreciating them for? Just for sucking? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Yea, but they are the preseason champions like 3 years running. Cowboys Browns the last couple years right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Yea, but they are the preseason champions like 3 years running. Nothing like winning the off season Just ask the Pats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Huh? What are we appreciating them for? Just for sucking? They both rejected Allen and McDermott which are now Buffalo Bills. They chose Hue Jackson and Baker Mayfield. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rock'em Sock'em said: Not Lamar. Possibly the wrong Josh, but unlikely they would have traded up for him. I would guess trade up for Baker or stay put for Mason Rudolph based solely on the leaked image. If that is a real image, find it interesting that Lamar was appearently off their board...and Lauletta was a possible later round fall back option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Look, it takes a village. Mind you it doesn't take a smart village. Just a a choice few idiots in the decision making department to make others' dreams come true. Browns, you did it for us back in 1980 By taking Tom Cousineau which eventually played a part in the Bills getting Kelly in 1983, and you did it for us again as Royale has referenced above. For this we say thank you. As a gesture of gratitude you can have anything you want on the second shelf or lower, but if you give us your 1st round pick next year in exchange for Bobby Hart you can choose from the third shelf and above...a lot of people are liking the football poppits. Edited January 20, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Nothing like winning the off season Just ask the Pats They still have a ways to go to teach the level of the GOAT Offseason Champion, Rex Ryan. Rexy is the preseason Belechick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: They both rejected Allen and McDermott which are now Buffalo Bills. They chose Hue Jackson and Baker Mayfield. They chose Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward so technically they passed on Allen twice😂😂😂 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Look, it takes a village. Mind you it doesn't take a smart village. Just a a choice few idiots in the decision making department to make others' dreams come true. Browns, you did it for us back in 1980 By taking Tom Cousineau which eventually played a part in the Bills getting Kelly in 1983, and you did it for us again as Royale has referenced above. For this we say thank you. As a gesture of gratitude you can have anything you want on the second shelf or lower, but if you give us your 1st round pick next year in exchange for Bobby Hart you can choose from the third shelf and above...a lot of people are liking the football poppits. But then, they swindled us for Tellar and still can't pony up the bucks to get helmets from anywhere except the Syracuse Football Surplus store. I say... 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: If that is a real image, find it interesting that Lamar was appearently off their board...and Lauletta was a possible later round fall back option. Wanted a pass first quarterback and not a running back pretending to be QB. You can't win in the playoffs with a guy like that. You'd think people would have learned after almost a decade of Mike Vick. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rampage said: Wanted a pass first quarterback and not a running back pretending to be QB. You can't win in the playoffs with a guy like that. You'd think people would have learned after almost a decade of Mike Vick. Well the starter for the previous few years had been Tyrod. If you don't believe in that type of QB as "the Man" then it makes sense to cross off LJ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: They chose Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward so technically they passed on Allen twice😂😂😂 Only the Browns can shoot themselves in the foot twice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Only the Browns can shoot themselves in the foot twice. That’s correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The browns just went to the super bowl. (although I don't usually like to do that at work) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: But then, they swindled us for Tellar and still can't pony up the bucks to get helmets from anywhere except the Syracuse Football Surplus store. I say... Hyde, lets be absolutely clear and this is not hindsight...I was not on board with the Tellar trade. "But you have to give something up to get the deal." But you didn't have to give up Tellar and I didn't want to give him up. How great was our guard play then that made it seem like a kid who was showing signs of breaking through his rookie year shouldn't be kept around? Trade something else, but realize the potential you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 well, we certainly passed over a BEVY of talented players during the drought years, so it was time for us to benefit from another teams mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I must say when that draft was coming up i was all about the Bills drafting Baker Mayfield or Josh Rosen & am so glad that Beane is the Bills GM because i would have gotten that so wrong . One thing i do wonder though is because of the Bills history and their lack of developing QB's that they have drafted in the past that had some talent such as Losman, Manuel, Trent & some others could their lack of growth be directly tied to their situation & the coaching involved with them ? I know by changing coaching staffs that surely didn't help Losman, or EJ in their development & i wonder if that could have been some of the problem with Sam & Baker to this point besides Bakers injury this year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: If that is a real image, find it interesting that Lamar was appearently off their board...and Lauletta was a possible later round fall back option. It was a real image. It was NOT their final draft board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 59 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Yea, but they are the preseason champions like 3 years running. As the back to back 2015 and 16 off season champs I salute the Browns for this 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 This example just illustrates the problems when ownership meddles or over-involves themselves in player personnel decisions. It's played out countless times across many organizations over the years (including our own far too many times) Let the experts do their jobs - and go count your money and your play toys in the corner somewhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, dreadlox said: It’s interesting to think how the draft would have played out for the Bills if the browns did take Allen. I’d assume they still take a Qb, but who? Mayfield or Darnold ... which ever one the Jets did not take ... or maybe they don't trade up hoping one of them falls or we take Rosen. All horrible thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, MJS said: Huh? What are we appreciating them for? Just for sucking? I can appreciate their fans. That’s about it, but I think we can all relate to what their fans have endured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, Augie said: I can appreciate their fans. That’s about it, but I think we can all relate to what their fans have endured. I didn't/don't want the Browns to get good before the Bills....that's why I was always pulling against them. Then the last few years, they've just become unlikable so now it's easy to cheer against them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Only the Browns can shoot themselves in the foot twice. Why would I have two feet if I'm not supposed to shoot both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Only the Browns can shoot themselves in the foot twice. Its still improvement from when they selected Manziel and Justin Gilbert with consecutive first rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Why would I have two feet if I'm not supposed to shoot both? If you shoot both feet, you can't walk. If you shoot one foot twice, you can limp. 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Its still improvement from when they selected Manziel and Justin Gilbert with consecutive first rounders. Both of them were out of the NFL in what....4 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 wonder who is left from the football dept involved in that big decision other than the owner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The Cleveland Browns were locked in on Josh Allen as their #1 overall pick! But then, someone released some tweets hours before the 2018 NFL draft by Allen having made derogatory remarks while in high school. (Wonder who could have done this *cough* *cough*) "ARLINGTON, Texas – Quarterback prospect Josh Allen said he was “deeply sorry” for racially insensitive tweets that surfaced early Thursday, hours before the start of the NFL draft. Allen did not deny sending the tweets, which were reported by Yahoo Sports on Thursday and included racial slurs and other offensive language, when he was in high school." https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2018/04/26/josh-allen-tweets-nfl-draft-2018-first-round/556369002/ Sure didn't stop the Buffalo Bills from trading up in the draft and selecting Josh Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I can’t believe people are making fun of the browns. You can write a 300-page long book on the number of colossally stupid player and coaching moves the Bills have made over the last 20 years. There but for the grace of God go I. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Yea, but they are the preseason champions like 3 years running. Just imagine what they could do if they had Rex Ryan 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I seem to recall a number of our very own fans wanted Mayfield over Allen if we had the opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I think we also need to thank who ever leaked his tweets with bad words from when he was 16- I think he would have been gone by 7 without that "concern". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Cracks me up how we have so many members here wo 5 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Hyde, lets be absolutely clear and this is not hindsight...I was not on board with the Tellar trade. "But you have to give something up to get the deal." But you didn't have to give up Tellar and I didn't want to give him up. How great was our guard play then that made it seem like a kid who was showing signs of breaking through his rookie year shouldn't be kept around? Trade something else, but realize the potential you have. Its amazing how we have so many fans on this forum think they can understand individual football player development We can get thrown off the scent during draft the lead up intended for other GMs. Our FO guys are just better. Allen/McDermott/Trey/Milano/Dawkins/Poyer/Hyde etc.. All of this can NOT be planned. It’s the luck of the draw at the time we pick, and the chemistry that becomes of it. It’s the stars lining up, with the right coach at the right time. Forget Teller. He’s good, and he’s also sitting home on the couch watching his team implode, while no name Rick is playing for us at a superb level. . Edited January 20, 2022 by george c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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