Bill B's defensive game plan vs the Bills

[Estro]

We all know one of the Patriots defensive staples under Bills B is to bracket cover a teams #1 weapon and then stick their best CB on the teams #2 weapon

 

That got me thinking who would Bill B identify as our #2 weapon. My answer, which I think is fairly obvious is Dawson Knox, especially when the Bills get inside the 30 yard line (or what is being called the high redzone)

 

I think Diggs will be bracket covered by CB2 and a S and Dawson Knox is going to see a lot of physical bump and run from Kyle Dugger. We will need Cole Beasley, Emanuel Sanders and Gabe Davis to step up and make plays.

 

This is going to be a game where Allen has to get through his progressions and systematically slice and dice his way down the field.  You know the Pats will look to spy Allen and keep him from escaping the pocket, particularly to his right (where he's pretty lethal).

 

We need Josh's A game!

[ClemsonBills]

Dak threw for 445 and 3 TDs. I know the olines are not comparable, but the patriots d can be exposed.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

I'd say Emmanuel Sanders would be the 2nd option, but all in all I think the Bills have too many weapons for the Patriots to stop. The real battle is going to be in the trenches. 

Just now, ClemsonBills said:

Dak threw for 445 and 3 TDs. I know the olines are not comparable, but the patriots d can be exposed.

 

We exposed them last year so badly that Bill Bellichick threw his phone 😆

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 minutes ago, Estro said:

We all know one of the Patriots defensive staples under Bills B is to bracket cover a teams #1 weapon and then stick their best CB on the teams #2 weapon

 

That got me thinking who would Bill B identify as our #2 weapon. My answer, which I think is fairly obvious is Dawson Knox, especially when the Bills get inside the 30 yard line (or what is being called the high redzone)

 

I think Diggs will be bracket covered by CB2 and a S and Dawson Knox is going to see a lot of physical bump and run from Kyle Dugger. We will need Cole Beasley, Emanuel Sanders and Gabe Davis to step up and make plays.

 

This is going to be a game where Allen has to get through his progressions and systematically slice and dice his way down the field.  You know the Pats will look to spy Allen and keep him from escaping the pocket, particularly to his right (where he's pretty lethal).

 

We need Josh's A game!

Diggs thoroughly embarrassed JC Jackson all game last matchup…call me crazy but I’m not too worried about this one if we get brown and Feliciano back.  I think the pats are closer to 2020 dolphins than super bowl contenders…strong opportunistic defense/ pretty decent offense 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[PatsFanNH]

2 minutes ago, ClemsonBills said:

Dak threw for 445 and 3 TDs. I know the olines are not comparable, but the patriots d can be exposed.

I do believe 200 of it was to Lamb, who killed them all game.  Also don’t forget the top two WR > Buffalo top 2 WR.  Lamb was covered by Mills and well it was a very very long day for Mills.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I'd say Emmanuel Sanders would be the 2nd option, but all in all I think the Bills have too many weapons for the Patriots to stop. The real battle is going to be in the trenches. 

 

We exposed them last year so badly that Bill Bellichick threw his phone 😆

 

Bill can also go like a zone coverage (tampa 2, cover 2 like coverage, to attack the weakness) as well. I think he'll have lots of schemes try to stop the Bill's.

3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I do believe 200 of it was to Lamb, who killed them all game.  Also don’t forget the top two WR > Buffalo top 2 WR.  Lamb was covered by Mills and well it was a very very long day for Mills.

 

Not sure but Bill can choose go for strength (his D) or go for weakness on Bill's (cover 2 or tampa 2). Buffalo Bills are great in man coverage. Thinking he'll try to mix it up.

[BigAl2526]

I am not too worried about the Bills' passing offense, and if Buffalo gets Feliciano and especially Brown back on the offensive line, I'm not too worried about the running game.  My biggest concern is about whether or not Dane Jackson can hold up as a starter at CB.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

 

Bill can also go like a zone coverage (tampa 2, cover 2 like coverage, to attack the weakness) as well. I think he'll have lots of schemes try to stop the Bill's.

 

Not sure but Bill can choose go for strength (his D) or go for weakness on Bill's (cover 2 or tampa 2). Buffalo Bills are great in man coverage. Thinking he'll try to mix it up.

 

Yes, I'd prefer man coverage. I think Josh's legs are going to play a huge factor in this game. He's gonna want this W bad

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

I really don’t know how you defend the bills if you can’t get home with 4 rushers…fortunately for other teams our offensive line has been a mess with Covid/injuries…we’ve had two weak links on the oline virtually all season 

[JohnNord]

2 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I am not too worried about the Bills' passing offense, and if Buffalo gets Feliciano and especially Brown back on the offensive line, I'm not too worried about the running game.  My biggest concern is about whether or not Dane Jackson can hold up as a starter at CB.

I can guarantee he’s going to tested deep at least once by Nelson Agolor.  Guaranteed 

[hondo in seattle]

25 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Diggs thoroughly embarrassed JC Jackson all game last matchup…call me crazy but I’m not too worried about this one if we get brown and Feliciano back.  I think the pats are closer to 2020 dolphins than super bowl contenders…strong opportunistic defense/ pretty decent offense 

 

The Pats have won 6 in a row.  We recently lost to the Jags.  I worry.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Given the defense we are going to see and the likely forecast, I think We are going to have to go all Tom Brady/Kevin Faulk on them, and dink and dunk them to death with Breida short passes and Beasley short option routes. 
 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

20 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

The Pats have won 6 in a row.  We recently lost to the Jags.  I worry.

We lost to the jags missing like 60% of our offensive line by 3 points…our injuries just played perfectly into the only thing they’re decent at. If we were in a similar situation health wise in the trenches I’d be much more worried. I just feel pretty strongly that our best football is coming and this mini bye week gives our Covid dudes opportunity to get back in the lineup 

[newcam2012]

58 minutes ago, Estro said:

We all know one of the Patriots defensive staples under Bills B is to bracket cover a teams #1 weapon and then stick their best CB on the teams #2 weapon

 

That got me thinking who would Bill B identify as our #2 weapon. My answer, which I think is fairly obvious is Dawson Knox, especially when the Bills get inside the 30 yard line (or what is being called the high redzone)

 

I think Diggs will be bracket covered by CB2 and a S and Dawson Knox is going to see a lot of physical bump and run from Kyle Dugger. We will need Cole Beasley, Emanuel Sanders and Gabe Davis to step up and make plays.

 

This is going to be a game where Allen has to get through his progressions and systematically slice and dice his way down the field.  You know the Pats will look to spy Allen and keep him from escaping the pocket, particularly to his right (where he's pretty lethal).

 

We need Josh's A game!

Is Judon going to be harassing Allen all game? Will Allen even have time to go through his progressions? 

[Ray Finkel]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

We lost to the jags missing like 60% of our offensive line by 3 points…our injuries just played perfectly into the only thing they’re decent at. If we were in a similar situation health wise in the trenches I’d be much more worried. I just feel pretty strongly that our best football is coming and this mini bye week gives our Covid dudes opportunity to get back in the lineup 

Different defense this year.  We have to deal with Judson, Hightower and Barmore.

[Virgil]

If that's the case, they failed miserably against Diggs last year.  He torched them in New England

[Toyo321]

5 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

Different defense this year.  We have to deal with Judson, Hightower and Barmore.

Josh will have to play smart and make good decisions, the entire game. No int's !!!

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

42 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

I can guarantee he’s going to tested deep at least once by Nelson Agolor.  Guaranteed 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

Different defense this year.  We have to deal with Judson, Hightower and Barmore.

Still a fairly soft secondary though…they couldn’t cover diggs with their two best dbs last year.  I think being unbalanced is actually going to work out in our favor for once…they seem to be beating up on teams like the browns and titans that rely on consistently being able to get that 4 or 5 yard rush when they need it.  If we don’t get brown or Feliciano back I will def be concerned though don’t get me wrong. I think we’re really underselling how whack our offensive line talent has been most of this season and reinforcements are coming 

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, Estro said:

We all know one of the Patriots defensive staples under Bills B is to bracket cover a teams #1 weapon and then stick their best CB on the teams #2 weapon

 

That got me thinking who would Bill B identify as our #2 weapon. My answer, which I think is fairly obvious is Dawson Knox, especially when the Bills get inside the 30 yard line (or what is being called the high redzone)

 

I think Diggs will be bracket covered by CB2 and a S and Dawson Knox is going to see a lot of physical bump and run from Kyle Dugger. We will need Cole Beasley, Emanuel Sanders and Gabe Davis to step up and make plays.

 

This is going to be a game where Allen has to get through his progressions and systematically slice and dice his way down the field.  You know the Pats will look to spy Allen and keep him from escaping the pocket, particularly to his right (where he's pretty lethal).

 

We need Josh's A game!

I don't think the Pats defensive game plan is too complicated. Just watch the film on the Tenn, Pitts, Colts, and Jags game. It's playing physical on both sides of the lines.  Pressure Allen and play various zones. Pound the rock. The Bills really haven't had answers to combat this strategy. I'm assuming the Bills coaching staff is going to make several adjustments to enhamce their success. Maybe its more Brieda on offense. I'd like to see more of Allen rolling out and creating plays. Perhaps a few more RPOs too. Defensively, I think the Pats will move the ball consistently. They are very balanced and efficient.  The key is to hold them to field goals instead tds. 

Edited November 30, 2021 by newcam2012

[Ray Finkel]

25 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Still a fairly soft secondary though…they couldn’t cover diggs with their two best dbs last year.  I think being unbalanced is actually going to work out in our favor for once…they seem to be beating up on teams like the browns and titans that rely on consistently being able to get that 4 or 5 yard rush when they need it.  If we don’t get brown or Feliciano back I will def be concerned though don’t get me wrong. I think we’re really underselling how whack our offensive line talent has been most of this season and reinforcements are coming 

I hope the O line gives Josh some time.  I totally agree about their secondary

[78thealltimegreat]

1 hour ago, ClemsonBills said:

Dak threw for 445 and 3 TDs. I know the olines are not comparable, but the patriots d can be exposed.

Good point check out the game Davis Mills had against them a week after he was shutout in Buffalo…the Patriots made him look like Johnny Unitas 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Good point check out the game Davis Mills had against them a week after he was shutout in Buffalo…the Patriots made him look like Johnny Unitas 

The titans had 350+ yards of offense with absolute scrubs at every skill position last week…lots of turnovers though we’re gonna have to protect the football. 

12 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

I hope the O line gives Josh some time.  I totally agree about their secondary

I am still puzzled the national media never talks about the injury mess we’ve had on the offensive line…it’s crazy how much this one game is gonna shape the narrative for either team. These analysts play real fast and loose with the contender/pretender label when it’s such a week to week league 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

I do believe 200 of it was to Lamb, who killed them all game.  Also don’t forget the top two WR > Buffalo top 2 WR.  Lamb was covered by Mills and well it was a very very long day for Mills.

 

 

It was 149 yards, not 200, but you're right in principle.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Take Gilliam off the field. He's the worst player on the team and useless on offense. 

Line up two WR - Davis and Diggs predominantly and two TE Knox and either Bates or Sweeney and a single back.  This should be their base formation.  From this they can run, screen, or throw downfield.  They should do a lot of pre-snap motion with the TE's to switch from an even formation to a heavy formation to one side.  They can keep extra blockers in if they choose. They can run Allen on sweeps.  Knox can split out wide any time he wants and draw LB coverage or a smaller CB defender.  Doesn't matter what BB throws at them - from this formation JA can audible to whatever play he wants.    

[NewEra]

Keep 17 in the pocket and bracket Diggs 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

17 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Keep 17 in the pocket and bracket Diggs 

They certainly tried that last time 😂 this whole thing is weird to me like we’re talking about how our defense is overrated because we’re playing an easy schedule but they are in our division playing a variation of the same easy schedule as us haha 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Locomark]

Look I know the Pats haven’t given up many points lately but color me very unimpressed in watching them play the Titans, getting torched on the ground by a team that had poor passing weapons and where they could stack against the run. I think we can mix up the game plan on Belicheat and not worry about his plan against us. I expect to see more Gabe D and Beasley in this week’s game plan. Let’s just hope we play to our strengths and ignore the BB mind games. 

[billsbackto81]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

That's the same head shake Dane usually sees on a double move before the receiver blows right by him.😂

 

In all seriousness they're gonna go hard after Jackson and will probably draw a PI or two. Hope the young man is up for the challenge.

 

This is all about the O line protection. If they can give Josh enough time to get past his first read they should be ok providing the D does their part. 

Edited November 30, 2021 by billsbackto81

[Jeffbigalls]

37 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Look I know the Pats haven’t given up many points lately but color me very unimpressed in watching them play the Titans, getting torched on the ground by a team that had poor passing weapons and where they could stack against the run. I think we can mix up the game plan on Belicheat and not worry about his plan against us. I expect to see more Gabe D and Beasley in this week’s game plan. Let’s just hope we play to our strengths and ignore the BB mind games. 

 

[Big Blitz]

2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

We lost to the jags missing like 60% of our offensive line by 3 points…

 

 

And 140 yards in penalties 

 

 

 

 

This is going to be the Singletary game.  

Edited November 30, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Ghost_002!]

3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Still a fairly soft secondary though…they couldn’t cover diggs with their two best dbs last year.  I think being unbalanced is actually going to work out in our favor for once…they seem to be beating up on teams like the browns and titans that rely on consistently being able to get that 4 or 5 yard rush when they need it.  If we don’t get brown or Feliciano back I will def be concerned though don’t get me wrong. I think we’re really underselling how whack our offensive line talent has been most of this season and reinforcements are coming 

 

 

Two different defensives from last year and Gilmore was injured in both Bills games, so the bills never faced their best secondary last year, they faced whatever they could put out there last season. Especially the blowout game. They were so done with injuries and Covid that by the time the bills played them again, they were using safeties as linebackers because they didn't have enough linebackers left. 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Ghost_002!

[Houston's #1 Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

An all-time classic!!!!!

[John from Riverside]

Don’t turn the ball over

Touchdowns not field goals

2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Two different defensives from last year and Gilmore was injured in both Bills games, so the bills never faced their best secondary last year, they faced whatever they could put out there last season. Especially the blowout game. They were so done with injuries and Covid that by the time the bills played them again, they were using safeties as linebackers because they didn't have enough linebackers left. 

So JC Jackson didn’t play in that game?

[Ghost_002!]

4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

 

So JC Jackson didn’t play in that game?

 

He plays on one side of the field right? And he was not their best corner, especially last season it was Gilmore who was injured. 

Edited November 30, 2021 by Ghost_002!

[chris heff]

53 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

He plays on one side of the field right? And he was not their best corner, especially last season it was Gilmore who was injured. 

And now Gilmore is gone.

[GunnerBill]

Said it yesterday, repeat it today.... if he is healthy this is a Beasley game. 

9 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

That's the same head shake Dane usually sees on a double move before the receiver blows right by him.😂

 

In all seriousness they're gonna go hard after Jackson and will probably draw a PI or two. Hope the young man is up for the challenge.

 

This is all about the O line protection. If they can give Josh enough time to get past his first read they should be ok providing the D does their part. 

 

Yea they are gonna go after Dane in a big way. I expect the Bills to give him a lot of help and consequently we need Levi to really show up for us. I just worry we don't have a corner now capable of coming up and playing tight. Both Levi and Dane need to play off and that gives a cushion for New England's dink and dunk style. 

[Big Turk]

12 hours ago, ClemsonBills said:

Dak threw for 445 and 3 TDs. I know the olines are not comparable, but the patriots d can be exposed.

 

Titans rushed for almost 300 without Derrick Henry.  It can be run on as well.

48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Said it yesterday, repeat it today.... if he is healthy this is a Beasley game. 

 

Yea they are gonna go after Dane in a big way. I expect the Bills to give him a lot of help and consequently we need Levi to really show up for us. I just worry we don't have a corner now capable of coming up and playing tight. Both Levi and Dane need to play off and that gives a cushion for New England's dink and dunk style. 

 

But I mean...who do they have to go after him with?  Replacement level WR's?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

But I mean...who do they have to go after him with?  Replacement level WR's?

 

Jakobi Myers is not a replacement level receiver. He is a possession guy, not a big play guy, but he is a good player. A solid #2. They don't have a true #1 that is true, but Kendrick Bourne has had a nice season too. Not sure he is more than serviceable but they find ways to get him open. 

[Hebert19]

12 hours ago, JohnNord said:

I can guarantee he’s going to tested deep at least once by Nelson Agolor.  Guaranteed 

Well if the wind is as forecasted then I'm not too concerned as those deep passes will be turnover ops rather than something to fear.