BassToMouth Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Putin said: Thanks Joe Biden The NFL has always been steered. Many people think super bowl 3 was fixed for example. It’s entertainment not sport. Shaped and scripted. Technology and rule changes have just made this easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 11:47 PM, SCBills said: Noticing more and more people call out officiating this year. It’s bad, and more than just the typical “refs hate us” fans are talking about it. I hang around the NFL forum on Reddit and I’ve never seen the discussion so focused on the refs. Fans from every single team have talked about atrocious calls more than I’ve ever seen. The officiating is always hideous but it’s downright heinous and obnoxious this year. These refs need to be looked at and penalized for poor performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sherlock Holmes Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This is ***** fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Then there's the issue that we have a 69 year old on-field referee. Please don't tell me that he's as fit and quick thinking as someone quite a bit younger. The refereeing crew is dealing with world class athletes in mainly their 20's and 30's. Colonels in the military have to retire when they are in their 50's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 14 hours ago, BassToMouth said: I was going to make a thread on the league being fixed after the blatant Jax game rigging, but others have jumped in. Glad to see so many people waking up. -NFL has an entertainment license not a sporting one (only wwe and roller derby share this similarity as far as pro sports go) -you all need to look up court cases involving the nfl. They always use the defense that they’re one entity—one corporation—not 32 separate franchises as everyone would assume. This allows them to be classified as entertainment. -look up the Supreme Court case resulting from a jets fan suing the league after spygate. He and his lawyer argued the league had committed consumer fraud and that he never would have bought season tickets if he knew it wasn’t a legitimate sporting event. The judge ruled his ticket only granted him access into the stadium and that the nfl was under no obligation to provide a fair sporting contest because legally, the nfl is considered entertainment. -the amount of spread busters, ludicrous endings I might add, that occur in the nfl is actually comical. A common argument is “well how could everyone be in on it and they keep it quiet, no one has ever said anything from within the league.” -It’s absolutely not everyone. There are NDAs in all nfl contracts, but what it appears to me is that each team has a few coaches and players who actively help steer outcomes on the field. The refs are clearly fixing and steering, this shouldn’t even be a question at this point. I won’t mention who in the Bills is helping this imo bc I don’t see the point. -There has been a whistle blower, a very recent one. And he had two pick sixes in a super bowl. Dwight Smith of the Bucs The Raiders Bucs super bowl was blatant. Even Tim Brown and Jerry Rice couldn’t contain themselves here. They had a totally different offense and then Callaghan goes back to the gruden one on Saturday the day before. Barrett Robins disappearance should Make a bit more sense now. I would get into the truth of the Hail Murray, but this board isn’t ready for that. The league is fixed. It’s entertainment not sport. They craft narratives and market them. That’s why weeks ago I said the Pats would play in the super bowl against the Bucs this year. Universally laughed at by the board, followed by comments of how bad the Pats are. exactly what I said is happening is happening. Game manager rookie carried by defense and Belichek’s ‘genius.’ While obviously it’s still very early, I don’t see people laughing at the notion now. In fact there have been numerous threads on the real threat the Pats represent. The thing is, you all haven’t been watching the cheats play and seeing how much help they’re getting from the zebras, you’re just seeing the outcome. The nfl is repeating 2001 w Jones in place of Tommy Terrific. The narrative is who is the real reason for the Pats dynasty Bill or Tom. They will keep this going and I believe it’s the preferred narrative they wish to play out. Last year was the passing of the torch Possibility between mahomes and Brady. Green Bay was clearly the best team, but like in the pats hey day the Bucs dbs were allowed to maul opposing wrs. Such a great defense! 😂 yeah gbay and others got the colts treatment. Hard to get your offense going when the opposing team isn’t called for flags. im sure you all noticed this happen to us against the chiefs. We didn’t play our best but our receivers were mauled with almost no flags. It’s a joke. It’s clearly fixed. Flame away, but I went over about half of what I could’ve. I think a lot of people are starting to wake up with all this. *btw Dwight mentions Jim Kelly! So who wins this? Aside from the Bills making it, I would be down for watching Belichick humiliate Brady in the Super Bowl, complete with Brady sitting on the bench in tears with multiple close ups of his face while the commentators say how Bill was the reason for the dynasty and this, along with the 19-17 game where Brady didn't throw a TD, proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt now. 2 games vs Belichick, 0 total touchdowns, and 3 INT in the Super Bowl, 2 for pick 6's while the Bucs lose 45-0 would be an OK second place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 So should we know the name Tony Corrente before this incident? Do fans know the names of refs? Or am I just ignorant? Do these guys have playing cards or something? The only name I can think of off the top of my head is Ed Hochuli. Either way, I’m down for bashing this guy as well as the dingleberries who called our game Sunday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jerry Jabber Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 It’s clear the NFL wants certain teams to win over others. Last year when the Chiefs played the Browns and Bills, the Chiefs D was playing dirty, holding, etc., but barely got penalized. When it came to the Superbowl against the Bucs, the refs called everything the Chiefs D we’re getting away with against the Browns/Bills. It’s clear the NFL wanted a Brady/Mahomes Superbowl. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 11:46 PM, LeGOATski said: He made the right call in that on initially and then was overturned. That game also included the stupid blind side block though, iirc. I think that block was the ‘right’ call by the rules at the time but afterwards they were like what a stupid rule and made some changes to it lol supposedly refs review that play as an example of a legal block now which makes it even worse 😂 On 11/10/2021 at 1:48 PM, Just in Atlanta said: So should we know the name Tony Corrente before this incident? Do fans know the names of refs? Or am I just ignorant? Do these guys have playing cards or something? The only name I can think of off the top of my head is Ed Hochuli. Either way, I’m down for bashing this guy as well as the dingleberries who called our game Sunday. You remember their names when they’re bad and he’s one of the bad ones lol I don’t even really watch baseball and I know angel Hernandez is a terrible ump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 9:30 AM, TheFunPolice said: So who wins this? Aside from the Bills making it, I would be down for watching Belichick humiliate Brady in the Super Bowl, complete with Brady sitting on the bench in tears with multiple close ups of his face while the commentators say how Bill was the reason for the dynasty and this, along with the 19-17 game where Brady didn't throw a TD, proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt now. 2 games vs Belichick, 0 total touchdowns, and 3 INT in the Super Bowl, 2 for pick 6's while the Bucs lose 45-0 would be an OK second place. I hate Belichick way more than Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jerry Jabber said: It’s clear the NFL wants certain teams to win over others. Last year when the Chiefs played the Browns and Bills, the Chiefs D was playing dirty, holding, etc., but barely got penalized. When it came to the Superbowl against the Bucs, the refs called everything the Chiefs D we’re getting away with against the Browns/Bills. It’s clear the NFL wanted a Brady/Mahomes Superbowl. Of course. They can steer or choreograph any outcome they want to maximize the biggest SB matchup/revenue possible. They can cover up anything they want, including a stunt like Corrente. This year will be no different. I would be shocked if the Rams don't strole into the SB. And they'll guide the team with the most compelling narrative out of the AFC. Whatever qb generates the bigger rating score. Edited November 11, 2021 by LABILLBACKER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 11:40 PM, Aussie Joe said: So the Bills will be taken care of then? No, the Bills Mafia will take care of business. It's not personal. Drop the ball, take the cannoli. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 11:47 PM, SCBills said: Noticing more and more people call out officiating this year. It’s bad, and more than just the typical “refs hate us” fans are talking about it. It's the worst I've ever seen, and I'm not even watching nearly as much football as I used to. There are terrible call in every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: It's the worst I've ever seen, and I'm not even watching nearly as much football as I used to. There are terrible call in every game. and the No Calls are nearly as bad. is it really that hard with todays tech I mean we all get to see slow mo zoom cams. NFL has quite few more camera angles of importance than we do. and that WR from Jags had a his toe clearly OOB. ! yes still pissed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 4 hours ago, MJS said: I hate Belichick way more than Brady. I thought I did until that NE TB game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 The taunting call is horrendous. But putting that aside, what was with the hip check that Corrente threw? I was waiting for THAT explanation in the NFL explanation video, but of course it cuts off prior to that. Regardless of wether the taunting call was technically correct or not, the optics of throwing a hip check and then tossing the flag like your droppin’ the mic is not good. If the player does that in reverse, he’s ejected, fined and possibly suspended. As coaches so often complain, “Call it both ways Ref.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 8:00 AM, MarkyMannn said: Marsh makes a good play, go celebrate on your sideline. No Good was going to come out of calling out the Steeler sideline. But I don't like that call gives Pitt the game. Like it or not, NHL puts its whistles away 3rd period, let the players decide the game, not refs by putting the whistle away and ignoring obvious penalties, the refs are deciding the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, nucci said: by putting the whistle away and ignoring obvious penalties, the refs are deciding the game Yeah I know that but it's better than a cheap penalty. Again, let the players decide the game. Don't become the NBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 minute ago, MarkyMannn said: Yeah I know that but it's better than a cheap penalty. Again, let the players decide the game. Don't become the NBA of course but it works both ways....just make the right call regardless of the situation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 It is with great sadness 😢 that the NFL announces the retirement of Tony Corrente https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/08/tony-corrente-will-retire-after-the-season/ the NFL world mourns 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: It is with great sadness 😢 that the NFL announces the retirement of Tony Corrente https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/08/tony-corrente-will-retire-after-the-season/ the NFL world mourns Is this like the Gettleman "retire or fired" scenario that many speculate happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 One down. A few more to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 RIP Tony's career. A sad, sad day 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 11/9/2021 at 3:40 PM, YoloinOhio said: Pool report So Justin, based on that logic and the fact that you make more per game than refs do per year means that you should be even more flawless. Sorry dood, you're failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Beerball said: So Justin, based on that logic and the fact that you make more per game than refs do per year means that you should be even more flawless. Sorry dood, you're failing. Are you saying calls like this and the non PIs in the Tampa game are acceptable? Officials have to simply see what happens while a player has to see it and then react, officials have more than a split second to make decisions. I agree with Justin just I would say never be flagrantly wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Are you saying calls like this and the non PIs in the Tampa game are acceptable? Officials have to simply see what happens while a player has to see it and then react, officials have more than a split second to make decisions. I agree with Justin just I would say never be flagrantly wrong I said nothing about any calls. I said that Fields comment is complete and udder garbage. He is saying someone who makes much less than he should be flawless. What does that say about how Fields and his cohorts should be expected to perform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 11/9/2021 at 6:50 AM, mattynh said: Do we know if 59 said anything that you dont see on the broadcast? Social media will be the downfall of us, not poor officiating. Officiating has not gotten worse, rather the rise of social media and slow mo repplays available minutes after something happened is what is new. I would challenge you to show real factual evidence of "corrupt officiating" discussed on social media. What you will see is internet loudmouths speculating on conspiracy theories to explain a game (or whatever) did not go the way they think it should have. The men in Black entering the field and telling the official to overturn the call in the Houston playoff game. That was corrupt as hell… 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Beerball said: I said nothing about any calls. I said that Fields comment is complete and udder garbage. He is saying someone who makes much less than he should be flawless. What does that say about how Fields and his cohorts should be expected to perform. So you’re saying that reffing the NFL and playing QB in the NFL have the same relative skill requirements? And that Fields has to be a top flight QB to criticize one of the worst ref performances I’ve ever seen (in general) after that ref cost his team a game? You are making zero sense here. Edited January 8, 2022 by BarleyNY 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Beerball said: So Justin, based on that logic and the fact that you make more per game than refs do per year means that you should be even more flawless. Sorry dood, you're failing. That’s not actually Justin fields twitter account. It’s a random bears fan. @justnfields is his account and he didn’t tweet anything about it Edited January 8, 2022 by YoloinOhio 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, Beerball said: So Justin, based on that logic and the fact that you make more per game than refs do per year means that you should be even more flawless. Sorry dood, you're failing. Do you think that is the actual Justin Fields Twitter account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: So you’re saying that reffing the NFL and playing QB in the NFL have the same relative skill requirements? And that Fields has to be a top flight QB to criticize one of the worst ref performances I’ve ever seen in general after that red cost his team a game ? You are making zero sense here. No, he is saying that the comment regarding pay versus performance is a poor choice. But, it’s much ado about nothing because it’s not Fields twitter account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: Do you think that is the actual Justin Fields Twitter account? I believe what I read. 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That’s not actually Justin fields twitter account. It’s a random bears fan. @justnfields is his account and he didn’t tweet anything about it I blame the fan. 53 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: So you’re saying that reffing the NFL and playing QB in the NFL have the same relative skill requirements? And that Fields has to be a top flight QB to criticize one of the worst ref performances I’ve ever seen (in general) after that ref cost his team a game? You are making zero sense here. It's already been well established that the twit wasn't from Fields. You are too smart to ask that question. I said nothing about skill requirements. I mean what I say and I say what I mean. If you decide to read more into it or extrapolate to extreme lengths then that's on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Sestak4ever said: One down. A few more to go! So true. There are so many more like Corrente that need to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: The men in Black entering the field and telling the official to overturn the call in the Houston playoff game. That was corrupt as hell… Yep. That was Corrente making the right call and getting overturned by the league. It's such a great feeling to have your employer micromanage you like that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 This corrupt 70 year old jerk has used the NFL games as his personal vehicle to exact revenge on his critics. The union has insulated this menace from suspension or forced retirement. If anything can turn NFL obsessed viewers away from the game, it's power hungry officials that change outcomes because of vendettas against a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Beerball said: I believe what I read. I blame the fan. It's already been well established that the twit wasn't from Fields. You are too smart to ask that question. I said nothing about skill requirements. I mean what I say and I say what I mean. If you decide to read more into it or extrapolate to extreme lengths then that's on you. Yes, the statement was not from Fields. I understood what you were doing and that’s what I responded to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrellsFinest Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 11/8/2021 at 10:35 PM, LABILLBACKER said: The top Blue Blood teams will always be taken care of by this league. That's the way it's always been. Nothing has changed. What does blue blood mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Yep. That was Corrente making the right call and getting overturned by the league. It's such a great feeling to have your employer micromanage you like that... I live that every day🤦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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