Josh Allen: “I put the ball in danger too often, I played like *****”

[YoloinOhio]

 

[KingBoots8]

I love that despite the open dam we call an OL he puts it on his shoulders. Kid is a leader and is legitimately the glue to this team.

 

Let this be the equivalent of the cards game last year- lost a game we should absolutely have won. Let’s go tear some hearts out.

[Success]

Allen has nothing to prove, as far as I'm concerned.  I'd still take him over any other QB in the league.

 

It was a bad day yesterday. There are certainly excuses like the line - but he did revert to some hero-ball stuff that he has done an excellent job taking out of his overall game.  I'd chalk that kind of lapse up to desperation, which we all felt as the game progressed and we couldn't pull away from a team like the Jags (who I actually don't think are that bad, just young)....

 

[dorquemada]

Yeah to be clear, he played like hot garbage yesterday

 

To be more clear, he was probably the best player on our O

 

Josh Allen failing is pretty far down my list of concerns. 

 

The O-line playing with JV level competence would be a massive improvement.  I'd be giving those huge contracts they handed out a long look

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

I just want to know about Heather Prusak

[Brand J]

Though I initially didn’t like the pick, the one thing I always admired, appreciated, and respected about Josh Allen is how he takes ownership of his struggles. After listening to EJ Manuel deflect direct criticism to the team “we couldn’t do this, we couldn’t do that, we have to be better” I couldn’t stomach his press conferences. Allen came in from day one with “I” as opposed to “we.” He is a true leader.

Edited November 8, 2021 by JayBaller10

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, Success said:

he did revert to some hero-ball stuff that he has done an excellent job taking out of his overall game.

 

His only hero ball play was the 2nd interception. He was trying to throw the ball away to avoid taking a sack and didn't see the LB standing there. Really dumb play but if he hadn't thrown it, it would have been a sack and a punt. Not really a game changer.

 

The 1st interception was not hero ball. He simply misread the coverage and didn't see the underneath defender in position to jump the ball. Every QB has a few interceptions like that every season.

 

I don't buy the narrative that Allen reverted to rookie year Allen in this game. He had one really bad throw. The other mistakes were normal QB mistakes.

[RobbRiddick]

I have a question: if they had a player back to receive that final punt and he fair caught it, stopping the clock with 1 or 2 seconds, would Josh be able to launch a Hail Mary from that far back? I can't remember where the ball landed

[Matt_In_NH]

Just heard this on ESPN.  17 was not the best Josh Allen on the field yesterday.  

[Success]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

His only hero ball play was the 2nd interception. He was trying to throw the ball away to avoid taking a sack and didn't see the LB standing there. Really dumb play but if he hadn't thrown it, it would have been a sack and a punt. Not really a game changer.

 

The 1st interception was not hero ball. He simply misread the coverage and didn't see the underneath defender in position to jump the ball. Every QB has a few interceptions like that every season.

 

I don't buy the narrative that Allen reverted to rookie year Allen in this game. He had one really bad throw. The other mistakes were normal QB mistakes.

 

I guess the fumbles kind of took me back to that time, also - but you make a good point.  Overall, he really wasn't bad under the circumstances.

 

I was shocked by how much pressure the Jags got on him, consistently.  It felt like they were in his face all day.

 

[Brand J]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

His only hero ball play was the 2nd interception. He was trying to throw the ball away to avoid taking a sack and didn't see the LB standing there. Really dumb play but if he hadn't thrown it, it would have been a sack and a punt. Not really a game changer.

 

The 1st interception was not hero ball. He simply misread the coverage and didn't see the underneath defender in position to jump the ball. Every QB has a few interceptions like that every season.

 

I don't buy the narrative that Allen reverted to rookie year Allen in this game. He had one really bad throw. The other mistakes were normal QB mistakes.

It didn’t have to be a sack or an interception. If you go back and look at the play, the pressure was coming strong off Josh’s right side. Instead of rolling left away from it, he inexplicably tried to escape to his right and the pressure was there. 

[YoloinOhio]

Still had his moments

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

23 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

I just want to know about Heather Prusak

Married to bills reporter Jon Scott

[ALLEN1QB]

And your sorry A$$ got me a loss in Fantasy!!!

[YoloinOhio]

15 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Just heard this on ESPN.  17 was not the best Josh Allen on the field yesterday.  

Obviously… the Jags Josh Allen will probably be AFC DPOW

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

37 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

His only hero ball play was the 2nd interception. He was trying to throw the ball away to avoid taking a sack and didn't see the LB standing there. Really dumb play but if he hadn't thrown it, it would have been a sack and a punt. Not really a game changer.

 

The 1st interception was not hero ball. He simply misread the coverage and didn't see the underneath defender in position to jump the ball. Every QB has a few interceptions like that every season.

 

I don't buy the narrative that Allen reverted to rookie year Allen in this game. He had one really bad throw. The other mistakes were normal QB mistakes.

Stafford  last night is also a great example of when pressured how easy it is to try and make a play and have it backfire..in his case the end zone…it happens. 

[billsfan1959]

39 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

His only hero ball play was the 2nd interception. He was trying to throw the ball away to avoid taking a sack and didn't see the LB standing there. Really dumb play but if he hadn't thrown it, it would have been a sack and a punt. Not really a game changer.

 

The 1st interception was not hero ball. He simply misread the coverage and didn't see the underneath defender in position to jump the ball. Every QB has a few interceptions like that every season.

 

I don't buy the narrative that Allen reverted to rookie year Allen in this game. He had one really bad throw. The other mistakes were normal QB mistakes.

 

Absolutely right. He didn't revert to "Rookie Allen." He certainly didn't have his best game, but the awful offensive performance was a team effort. Allen is one of the best QBs in the game who, for a variety of reasons, didn't have a good day. It happens to every QB. It doesn't mean they are regressing. It just means that there are days when even the best QB can't carry a team without some help.

[FireChans]

36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Still had his moments

 

 

Was a "get out of your chair" throw in real time. Goodness gracious.

 

Unfortunately Josh is right. He played like crap. Oh well, it happens.

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Real leader QBs dont throw their offensive line under the bus in press conferences

 

my problem was I saw lots of OL willing to pick Josh up off the ground in the game.....how about making sure he doesnt end up there?

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Josh is right.

 

He looked like complete dogchit. 

 

Now that he's admitted it maybe we can stop defending him

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Josh is right.

 

He looked like complete dogchit. 

 

Now that he's admitted it maybe we can stop defending him

Hope you’re feeling better, Jake! 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Success said:

Allen has nothing to prove, as far as I'm concerned.  I'd still take him over any other QB in the league.

 

It was a bad day yesterday. There are certainly excuses like the line - but he did revert to some hero-ball stuff that he has done an excellent job taking out of his overall game.  I'd chalk that kind of lapse up to desperation, which we all felt as the game progressed and we couldn't pull away from a team like the Jags (who I actually don't think are that bad, just young)....

 

You'd play hero ball too if your entire OL decided to boycott the game.

[Big Blitz]

MVP race is Brady v Allen edited to add Lamar is making a case.  

Edited November 8, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Rick 'r Mortis]

1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

I just want to know about Heather Prusak

😛

[Ethan in Cleveland]

He needs 3-5 more dump offs per game against this two deep shell.  Just take what they give you.  Get Knox healthy and when they start to cheat up, hit Sanders deep.  

[John from Riverside]

36 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Josh is right.

 

He looked like complete dogchit. 

 

Now that he's admitted it maybe we can stop defending him

Who exactly is doing that

[Ethan in Cleveland]

And McD and Daboll, why is it Ben Roethlisberger and others can be in an offense that gets rid of the ball quick and the Bills can not??????  The o-line is trash.  Help your QB.  

[billsfan1959]

12 minutes ago, RosseauDaGawd said:

He needs to check his *****in ego! He's so full of himself acting like hes superman cuz he hurdled someone...big whoop. 1 play. And the fans feed into it. He needs some humble pie. Hope he shapes up after this embarassment or else he'll be bagging groceries in no time!!!!

 

Not as much of an embarrassment as this post...

[PonyBoy]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Still had his moments

 

 

 

Not to brag, but i could do this with a Nerf football, when i was young, with the dog in the backyard, just the 2 of us, no pass rush, nobody watching. 

Lol! That was a crazy play!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I can’t believe that this is still going on

 

 

 

(Well I can but you know)

[muppy]

okat folks here is a very valid take regarding the Bills current situation and Im quoting....

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I dunno, this is the same team that went 13-3 last season, and went on tear in the 2nd half of last season through most of the playoffs, so I don;t think it's the crisis most are posting, let's remember something, our Bills lost back to back games to KC/TENN last year where our O also suddenly dissapeared, and the same coaching staff fixed the issues, and overcame the losses, and O struggled in the Ravens/Steelers 2020 games

My point is, Allen & Co are not always in high gear, it happens, it's the NFL

Ok, sure, neither of those games were as bad as what we saw yesterday, and in the 2020 games where Josh and OL struggled it was against top tier D's or elite teams, it being the Jags, I get the concern, and I equally share it, no question the OL had it's worst game in a season and a half, and yes I concur that Daboll was deficient in not running the ball more and or using personal to create a 6th or 7th backfield blocker, and lets not forget the penalties

Josh also played poorly, I know everyone here loves loves loves him, and so fans want to point blame elsewhere, but he had a serious off game yesterday, which he fully acknowledged, and look that happens, every elite NFL QB has em

I also concur that GM/HC Sean makes some unusual game day coaching decisions and he erred not drafting another high interior draft pick this off season, like the Chiefs did, or the Saints keep doing, specifically in the 2nd round, though the emergence of 3rd rounder Brown is a really nice surprise (as is DE Rousseau, so they had a good draft)

However, I also remember this board was on fire, in a ton of negativity, after the Chiefs/Titans loss last season, and look what happened, our team overcame those losses, and it was a magical magical season, so me, I'm calm, I'm being brutally honest about the Bills horrific loss yesterday, but I still have a ton of faith in mgmt to fix the issues, just as they did last season, plus I still see the leagues #1D playing lights out, and penalties aside, great ST, and elite NFL players on the O, and I'm not throwing our starting tackles under the bus, they're solid players

I think HC/GM Sean fixes it this Sunday, and beyond, we will see

 

I think this is input we can all take courage from! GO BILLS #wilcoam

 

 

[78thealltimegreat]

2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Josh is right.

 

He looked like complete dogchit. 

 

Now that he's admitted it maybe we can stop defending him

He played a really rough game but to say he got less then zero help is an understatement his oline has more leaks then the titanic 

Edited November 9, 2021 by 78thealltimegreat

[Solomon Grundy]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Can't get the "hero ball" out of his system

[Motorin']

3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

I have a question: if they had a player back to receive that final punt and he fair caught it, stopping the clock with 1 or 2 seconds, would Josh be able to launch a Hail Mary from that far back? I can't remember where the ball landed

 

There would have at least been a chance at a PI in a Hail Mary to put us in fg range. 

[Augie]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Married to bills reporter Jon Scott

 

Happily married? 

 

I kid, I kid. 

 

But I have no idea who she is, so I maintain the right to change my mind.   

[CNYfan]

I think I may have said "Cody was a weakness,  they identified Cody as a weakness and took advantage of it.  Almost got me killed.   And who the heck was Darryl Williams supposed to be blocking on the play that took us out of range for the tying field goal?  Not to mention the drops, wtf?".

But that's why I am not a great leader

[JoPoy88]

Allen’s production is more or less right on pace with what he did last year through 8 games, right? They just need to find a way to manufacture more “clean” time for him back there. I don’t know how they do it with the current OL personnel, but if Daboll wants that big boy job with some team he should be able to figure something out.

[GoBills808]

 

[brianb386]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Still had his moments

 

 

on a side note, Dawkins standing around at the end pisses me off. I don't care if there was nothing he could do, move your feet and pretend, don't ever be standing or walking.

[billsfan1959]

6 minutes ago, RosseauDaGawd said:

he cant make quick reads

Back under the bridge little troll....