Josh Allen 2022 season verdict... OC & DC let him down: 64.5% comp %, 51 TDs, 18 TOs, 97.9 Passer Rating, 313 YPG (offseason assessments page 46 on)

[LeGOATski]

11 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Isn't it voted on by the same idiots that made him an alternate? What are the odds they'd vote to confirm their own stupidity?

If you're talking about the Pro Bowl, I think that's voted by fans and players.

 

MVP and All Pro team are voted by the associated press, I think.

[GoBills808]

Been my MVP for the last 2 years running

 

absolute unit

 

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Football said:

It makes me sick, and it’s really very funny he’s not in the pro bowl, but I do think he figured out something today. He took the run and check down flawlessly, well 😅 almost. And then he still kept his gunslinger edge to him when we needed a big play! Great game Josh!! Go Bills. Allen4Mvp

Felt like he leveled up against the Buccaneers playing against Brady and seeing how he does things. 

[0017]

5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Felt like he leveled up against the Buccaneers playing against Brady and seeing how he does things. 

That’s a good point, I do think he was trying to be mahomes all year, and he can at times. But the game really opens up for him when he plays more like Brady! It was awesome to see. 

[GoBills808]

 

[Doc]

He'll get All-Pro votes.  Which is better than Pro Bowl.

[HappyDays]

59 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

This was the best game of his career today IMO

 

This game was the culmination of everything he's learned over his career. Take what the defense gives you, take your shots when they're there, carry the team with elite plays when they need you to. He did everything right. We're in the middle of watching Josh Allen master the position and become one of the greatest players of all time.

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

This game was the culmination of everything he's learned over his career. Take what the defense gives you, take your shots when they're there, carry the team with elite plays when they need you to. He did everything right. We're in the middle of watching Josh Allen master the position and become one of the greatest players of all time.

 

That was my exact thought. Just check it down and let guys like Singletary get yardage. Speaking of whom, thought he had an outstanding day today as well. 

[MJS]

Right now I'd put Brady and Rodgers above Allen. Plus probably Taylor.

 

He should certainly be in the conversation, though. If he beats up on the two weak teams we have left over the next couple of weeks, that would go a long way.

[Warcodered]

The ad they put on the screen during the first replay is such perfect timing.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

Pats beat writer weighs in 

 

 

[BuffaloBillsMagic1]

MVP and best QB to ever play

 

[Big Blitz]

Updated:

 

Allen

Taylor

Rodgers

Brady 

Kupp 

 

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Big Blitz said:

Updated:

 

Allen

Taylor

Rodgers

Brady 

Kupp 

 

Allen or Rodgers  - MVP

OPOY - Taylor 

 

Media no likey a-Aron so wouldn’t be surprised if they cast their vote elsewhere 

 

[Big Blitz]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Allen or Rodgers  - MVP

OPOY - Taylor 

 

Media no likey a-Aron so wouldn’t be surprised if they cast their vote elsewhere 

 

 

 

What do folks think the odds are Taylor or Kupp wins it?

 

I've been talking about them and Henry before he got hurt that they are serious contenders for it but it seems most everyone is saying no way.  

 

No chance?  10%?  

 

If it's between Allen and Rodgers I think they would give it to Rodgers but if Allen slaughters these last 2 teams might catapult his numbers past most of the QBs.

 

Rodgers has 4 INTs on the season.  He's been ridiculous.

Edited December 26, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Orlando Tim]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

What do folks think the odds are Taylor or Kupp wins it?

 

I've been talking about them and Henry before he got hurt that they are serious contenders for it but it seems most everyone is saying no way.  

 

No chance?  10%?  

 

If it's between Allen and Rodgers I think they would give it to Rodgers but if Allen slaughters these last 2 teams might catapult his numbers past most of the QBs.

 

Rodgers has 4 INTs on the season.  He's been ridiculous.

For it to be non QB the QBs would have to all have a down year. Since Allen and Rodgers are both playing well I think this year it is less than 10%

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Big Turk]

44 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

What do folks think the odds are Taylor or Kupp wins it?

 

I've been talking about them and Henry before he got hurt that they are serious contenders for it but it seems most everyone is saying no way.  

 

No chance?  10%?  

 

If it's between Allen and Rodgers I think they would give it to Rodgers but if Allen slaughters these last 2 teams might catapult his numbers past most of the QBs.

 

Rodgers has 4 INTs on the season.  He's been ridiculous.

 

Close to 0

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 hours ago, Dr. Football said:

That’s a good point, I do think he was trying to be mahomes all year, and he can at times. But the game really opens up for him when he plays more like Brady! It was awesome to see. 

If the bills offense can ever figure out how to consistently dink and dunk the ball they will be unstoppable. Josh Allen will win four or five MVPs.

 

Those dump offs to Singleterry in the first half it seemed in particular were a thing of beauty.

[balln]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

thats insane

[GoBills808]

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Magox]

27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Holy crap!

 

If that first throw could be judged with a degree of difficulty, it would be a 10.   That is one of the most bonkers throws I have seen him make yet.   I think only Mahomes can possibly make that throw and that is it.

 

True definition of “arm arrogance” 

[Warcodered]

18 minutes ago, Magox said:

Holy crap!

 

If that first throw could be judged with a degree of difficulty, it would be a 10.   That is one of the most bonkers throws I have seen him make yet.   I think only Mahomes can possibly make that throw and that is it.

 

True definition of “arm arrogance” 

It's like the balls on a wire.

[DapperCam]

If Allen can put up big numbers these final 2 weeks and Brady/Rodgers have mediocre weeks he might be able to steal it.

 

Rodgers will probably deserve it on merit, but I think the media are sick of his antics and they are who vote. Brady’s supporting cast is a lot better (not sure if non-Bills fans see it that way though).

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Woah I didn't realize in real time how insane that throw was because it was dropped. I'm glad we brought these crossing routes back since Allen thrives on them, and McKenzie looks outstanding running them.

[JESSEFEFFER]

Something I have often checked with regards to Josh's passing stats is his home/road split.  2021 is in line with his career numbers but even more extreme.  I attribute this mostly to home game weather and mostly wind.   The home crowd getting Josh too amped up narrative is entirely b.s., imo.  But, when looking at season or career numbers, (and the same applied to Jim Kelly) it's pretty negligent to compare them to those of QBs who played their home games in domes, or LA/SD, or Florida absent any context.  

[MAJBobby]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

That first throw in the clip is insane 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[HappyDays]

 

[GoBills808]

Allen is a touchdown machine 

[Augie]

On 12/26/2021 at 6:26 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

What do folks think the odds are Taylor or Kupp wins it?

 

I've been talking about them and Henry before he got hurt that they are serious contenders for it but it seems most everyone is saying no way.  

 

No chance?  10%?  

 

If it's between Allen and Rodgers I think they would give it to Rodgers but if Allen slaughters these last 2 teams might catapult his numbers past most of the QBs.

 

Rodgers has 4 INTs on the season.  He's been ridiculous.

 

It would be interesting if it went to a player who was not a QB. When’s the last time that happened? (I heard it recently but don’t recall.) 

 

Rodgers may be an arrogant, self centered jerk, but he’s been CRAZY good. 

 

Regardless, I’d MUCH rather have Josh win the SUPER BOWL MVP! 

[JGMcD2]

57 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

It would be interesting if it went to a player who was not a QB. When’s the last time that happened? (I heard it recently but don’t recall.) 

 

Rodgers may be an arrogant, self centered jerk, but he’s been CRAZY good. 

 

Regardless, I’d MUCH rather have Josh win the SUPER BOWL MVP! 

It’s really only ever been a QB or RB/FB. 
 

Since 2000 it’s been… AP won in 2012. LT in 2006. Alexander in 2005. Faulk in 2000. 
 

Alan Page in 1971 was a DT. Mark Moseley in 1982 was a kicker. Lawrence Taylor in 1986 at OLB. Those are the only non-QB or non-RB. 

Edited December 28, 2021 by JGMcD2

[slipkid]

5 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:
 

 Mark Moseley in 1982 was a kicker. 

I did not know that. A kicker? Wow! Different times.

 

i think Mosely was  the last successful “straight-on” kicker (not “soccer style).

[JGMcD2]

2 minutes ago, slipkid said:

I did not know that. A kicker? Wow! Different times.

 

i think Mosely was  the last successful “straight-on” kicker (not “soccer style).

If PFR is right, then yes. He edged out Dan Fouts by less than 2% of the vote. 
 

Interesting enough, in those years a QB or RB was always the runner up. 

[transplantbillsfan]

 

I think this deserves a post of its own:

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Supposedly not near the top 2 for the mvp discussion according to oddsmakers which is a bit surprising..I could be looking at pre pats game though which doesn’t help…last I saw he was +830

Edited December 28, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[ganesh]

11 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

It’s really only ever been a QB or RB/FB. 
 

Since 2000 it’s been… AP won in 2012. LT in 2006. Alexander in 2005. Faulk in 2000. 
 

Alan Page in 1971 was a DT. Mark Moseley in 1982 was a kicker. Lawrence Taylor in 1986 at OLB. Those are the only non-QB or non-RB. 

Thurman Thomas was the NFL MVP in 1991

[HOUSE]

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