Irv Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 We have the AFCE wrapped up. Why not? Give the Titans a lot of credit. They battled. We'll see them again. Great game to watch despite the outcome. Not worried about them unless they get lucky again. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It took guts. McD’s players will love him for that. 7 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 100%. if you want to be a big dog, you have to play like a big dog. your 6'5' 250 qb should get 7 inches of grass every single effing time. Poor execution, and the o line are BUMS. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Me too, great game of course i wanted a bills win but we'll have many more wins this season to be happy about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 All commentators agree and I do too. Yeah it didn't work but good calculated risks on so many levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I don't have a problem with the call at all. It makes me happy to see that McDermott has grown through his career to make that decision tonight. He would NEVER have done that in his first few years as coach. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 This guys cost us the game. No doubt about it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I mean if you run that same play 100 times how many times does Allen not get a first down? Maybe that was the only time out of the 100? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Irv said: We have the AFCE wrapped up. Why not? Give the Titans a lot of credit. They battled. We'll see them again. Great game to watch despite the outcome. Not worried about them unless they get lucky again. The call was the right one, we lost tonight because our defence looked like it did last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, wppete said: This guys cost us the game. No doubt about it. He definitely did. Yet I keep seeing people blaming Josh for “slipping”. Josh was knocked off balance because Dawkins got owned on that play. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Win Probability going for it on 4th down: 63% Win probability kicking the FG and playing for OT: 42% As I said above, I'm thrilled McDermott and his staff has grown to the point where they did this tonight. They have gotten a lot better over time. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I liked the call to go for it, but would have preferred a RPO for Josh out of the gun. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: The call was the right one, we lost tonight because our defence looked like it did last season. Our Defense sucked tonight and our offensive line was below average. That’s all it takes for us to lose to anyone. See game 1 and tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I mean if you run that same play 100 times how many times does Allen not get a first down? Maybe that was the only time out of the 100? Except he was stopped earlier on a sneak. I think you spread them out and let Allen rush it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, wppete said: This guys cost us the game. No doubt about it. he should probably quit the stupid ***** SChNoW MaN bit and play football... 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Billznut said: He definitely did. Yet I keep seeing people blaming Josh for “slipping”. Josh was knocked off balance because Dawkins got owned on that play. I mean he didn’t even get off the ball that was embarrassing. He’s been acting a fool a lot this year. Not a serious guy at a serious position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Nope. Not even 1 out of 10 times. Stupid call. Take the tie and bank on either getting the ball first or your defense. I hated it the moment they stayed on the field. They called the play everyone knew was coming and got beat where the Titans kicked their ass all game. This loss is on McD as much as it is on the defense. 2 1 9 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I thought Allen clearly got the first on that dive, but what do I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Good call going for it. Bad play call. Allen flourishes in the gun from there. Give him a damned RPO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: The call was the right one, we lost tonight because our defence looked like it did last season. Did we even pressure Tannehill once let alone a sack? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Irv said: We have the AFCE wrapped up. Why not? Give the Titans a lot of credit. They battled. We'll see them again. Great game to watch despite the outcome. Not worried about them unless they get lucky again. I have no problem with the play. Their player made a play and beat Dawkins. i still cant believe they didnt give Allen the 1st down on the prior play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) The call to go for it I love and was correct. But this was Daboll fault to be honest on how he tried to be cute and tricky. He needs to stop being cute on the 4th and 1, it’s the ONLY time it doesn’t work for us. Allen has like a 98% success rate over 3 years on the sneak. If you’re gonna sneak it, then lineup and sneak it. But because Dabol had Allen in shotgun and walk up, he never really got his feet and set to push. If we lineup and just snap that ball with Allen under center from the get go, I guarantee we convert. Edited October 19, 2021 by Alphadawg7 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Yeah Dawkins got destroyed on that play. He had a bad penalty too earlier IIRC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, njbuff said: I thought Allen clearly got the first on that dive, but what do I know. I thought he was clearly short. Half a yard anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, wppete said: I mean he didn’t even get off the ball that was embarrassing. He’s been acting a fool a lot this year. Not a serious guy at a serious position. He got knocked backwards right into Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 When those d lineman shifted inside Allen should have called an audible or a TO. Because that was blatantly obvious they were selling out for the sneak. josh also could have jumped over the pile and stretched the ball out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 No way I take that defense into overtime…….I could easily see the Titans getting the ball first and Henry breaking off another 70+ yard touchdown run for the win. McD made the right decision. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Beast said: I thought he was clearly short. Half a yard anyway. Let me clarify. I thought he clearly got it when the play happened live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 100% go for it. Big picture, half a yard away from a first. No need to even bother with overtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I mean if you run that same play 100 times how many times does Allen not get a first down? Maybe that was the only time out of the 100? The quick count hurt!! Hard count would have slowed them a bit and allowed Josh to get his feet under him/ not slip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, bobobonators said: I have no problem with the play. Their player made a play and beat Dawkins. i still cant believe they didnt give Allen the 1st down on the prior play. It looked like a first down , total BS because they could have called PI on the guy covering Sanders in the back of the end zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Kick the FG every time in that situation!! 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) The way the D played yea I don't blame them for going for it. They didn't stop them since the interception in the first quarter. They were so afraid of the run it totally opened up the pass game. We were outcoached again in Tennessee. How did the Jets beat these guys? Edited October 19, 2021 by Azucho98 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said: 100%. if you want to be a big dog, you have to play like a big dog. your 6'5' 250 qb should get 7 inches of grass every single effing time. Poor execution, and the o line are BUMS. We just never seemed to have it together on the left side. I have an earlier image of mongo passing a guy inside to Morse to get back outside on a stunt when the DT was already 2 feet past Morse for a straight shot up the middle. Like straight disengage to pursue another guy. how we have it dialed up inside for the sneak and allow the defender to get a crease is baffling. Just total lack of assignment recognition by josh/the OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: Nope. Not even 1 out of 10 times. Stupid call. Take the tie and bank on either getting the ball first or your defense. I hated it the moment they stayed on the field. They called the play everyone knew was coming and got beat where the Titans kicked their ass all game. This loss is on McD as much as it is on the defense. Everyone always knows a sneak is coming. What are you even saying bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Going for it was the absolute right call. A QB sneak was moronic. After games where the sneak was there against other teams and they didn't do it. You have an improvisational player who is big, fast and strong and you call the ONE F***ING play that removes that. You design roll him out right and let him decide if he wants to throw or run it. He can either run over a db, outrun a lineman or throw it if a LB leaves coverage. If everything goes wrong, he may still pull a play out of his ***. Instead, a QB sneak against a team that it obviously wasn't there against. A play that removes all ability to put something together if it breaks down. A play that can be ended by a single player on your team or theirs. I swear Daboll calls **** sometimes just to 'prove' he can.. Edited October 19, 2021 by Malazan 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, NoSaint said: We just never seemed to have it together on the left side. I have an earlier image of mongo passing a guy inside to Morse to get back outside on a stunt when the DT was already 2 feet past Morse for a straight shot up the middle. Like straight disengage to pursue another guy. how we have it dialed up inside for the sneak and allow the defender to get a crease is baffling. Just total lack of assignment recognition by josh/the OL. noticed that one too. total trash. who's the O line coach, cause he sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I liked the call to go for it, but would have preferred a RPO for Josh out of the gun. Agreed. They should have run a play designed to score a TD, not just gain a few inches for a first down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: The call to go for it I love and was correct. But this was Daboll fault to be honest on how he tried to be cute and tricky. He needs to stop being cute on the 4th and 1, it’s the ONLY time it doesn’t work for us. Allen has like a 98% success rate over 3 years on the sneak. If you’re gonna sneak it, then lineup and sneak it. But because Dabol had Allen in shotgun and walk up, he never really got his feet and set to push. If we lineup and just snap that ball with Allen under center from the get go, I guarantee we convert. I don’t think Allen walking up was the reason Dawkins got pushed back a yard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: It looked like a first down , total BS because they could have called PI on the guy covering Sanders in the back of the end zone We didnt lose bc the officials i dont want to come off like that. I just dont get how that spot doesnt at least get reviewed. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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