Don Otreply Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: PFF don’t have him graded in top 15 rookies through wk 5. Has Pete Werner graded and he didn’t play until wk 3? https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-top-15-highest-graded-nfl-rookies-week-5-2021 It’s pff they really have no credibility to speak of, 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 So much for a 'raw project' that needs a year or two to develop. What Groot is doing as a rookie just 5 games into his NFL career has the makings of a future HOF player especially when you consider some of the elite blue chip DE's taken in the top 10 in recent years and how their careers started (i.e myles garret, chase young). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: 💪💪💪 Absolutely a steal!!!!! How long has it been when we had a draft where we got multiple late in the round picks that are just killing it???? This feels like one of those those late 80s drafts . I kind of feel like Epenesa is looking like a modern day Phil Hansen-type. He may not be super-dominant (yet) but he's already looking like a handful to me. Getting a lot of push and got obviously held like 4 times at least the other night. He's still so raw too but I like what his trajectory is starting to look like. And we're barely talking about him because Groot and Boogie are already showing some stuff. And just want to mention that big Ed Oliver is a beast, I don't care what his stats say or don't say about him. Right now, everyone needs to understand that his impact is prob not going to show up on the stat sheet but he's a real force and then some. Just watch him for 5 or 6 plays. He's so freaking strong for his size it's ridiculous. Just watch him throw aside guards and centers that are probably 30 lbs or more bigger than him. He does that thing where he's locked on for a bit but always looking in the backfield (a natural at that skill) and all of a sudden the other guy loses just a little leverage or something and Ed just tosses him aside like a rag doll. And did anyone notice him making that funny face into the camera the other night not long after they came back from half-time? He looked right into the camera and was doing the eye-brow lift all smiling. Absolutely hilarious! 😂 I love that guy. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, Apocalypse Nuts said: I kind of feel like Epenesa is looking like a modern day Phil Hansen-type. He may not be super-dominant (yet) but he's already looking like a handful to me. Getting a lot of push and got obviously held like 4 times at least the other night. He's still so raw too but I like what his trajectory is starting to look like. And we're barely talking about him because Groot and Boogie are already showing some stuff. And just want to mention that big Ed Oliver is a beast, I don't care what his stats say or don't say about him. Right now, everyone needs to understand that his impact is prob not going to show up on the stat sheet but he's a real force and then some. Just watch him for 5 or 6 plays. He's so freaking strong for his size it's ridiculous. Just watch him throw aside guards and centers that are probably 30 lbs or more bigger than him. He does that thing where he's locked on for a bit but always looking in the backfield (a natural at that skill) and all of a sudden the other guy loses just a little leverage or something and Ed just tosses him aside like a rag doll. And did anyone notice him making that funny face into the camera the other night not long after they came back from half-time? He looked right into the camera and was doing the eye-brow lift all smiling. Absolutely hilarious! 😂 I love that guy. Agree with all of this. Epenesa was negatively effected by the lack of camp last year. He is definitely showing up this year. I was a pretty big skeptic on EO this off season. I wanted to see him show up but didn’t count on it. He is definitely popping up all over the place. Part of that is Star being in there, another is having less plays/staying fresher than last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Rousseau is a unique guy. He is athletic but not twitchy. Long and narrow waisted but strong. He will only get better and thats pretty exciting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 He must still be lucking into all those sacks... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Rousseau is a unique guy. He is athletic but not twitchy. Long and narrow waisted but strong. He will only get better and thats pretty exciting. Trying to think of who he reminds of. Simeon Rice from back in the day kind of. Not really sure what type of more modern player he is similar too. Either way he is playing really well and having a much needed impact. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: So much for a 'raw project' that needs a year or two to develop. What Groot is doing as a rookie just 5 games into his NFL career has the makings of a future HOF player especially when you consider some of the elite blue chip DE's taken in the top 10 in recent years and how their careers started (i.e myles garret, chase young). Exactly!! KC started using a RB to chip him Sunday night because he was causing havoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mat68 said: So when do we start playing “I am Groot” on the pa system in the stadium for every play he makes? For us fans do we chant I am Groot or do the long GROOOOOOOTTTTT? Important questions need to be answered. I AM GROOT I AM GROOT Edited October 13, 2021 by Rocky Landing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Very impressed with Groot so far. The play he made on the INT Monday was very reminiscent of a play I recall Bruce making back in the day. Not comparing Groot with Smith, but the athleticism it takes to first get your hands up, and then catch your batted ball to in a lateral motion was impressive. Hoping its only up from here! Will not be the last time we see that. How long before Daboll writes him into an offensive goal line play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Basham and Brown are exceeding expectations also. This is starting to look like Beane's best draft to date. Heck ya! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Wiz said: Send that to OBD and GMFB, Kyle Brandt. He even referred to him as GROOT yesterday on OBL. I love it. To think, he’s just starting to develop his NFL DE skills is scary. Edited October 13, 2021 by machine gun kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 GROOOOOOOOOT! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Send that to OBD and GMFB, Kyle Brandt. He even referred to him as GROOT yesterday on OBL. I love it. To think, he’s just starting to develop his NFL DE skills is scary. It came from the Bills Facebook so I'm sure they will see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 The Bills dressed six DEs on Sunday night, keep everyone fresh not just for the game, but for the season. Rousseau and Basham have never played a season this long. It’s always a concern with rookies. If you can keep these guys fresh they are going to get better and stronger as the season goes on. If this happens look out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mat68 said: So when do we start playing “I am Groot” on the pa system in the stadium for every play he makes? For us fans do we chant I am Groot or do the long GROOOOOOOTTTTT? Important questions need to be answered. Feel like a cease and desist letter would be quickly coming in email from Disney Lawyers. You're only allowed to have fun if Disney makes money off of it. Edited October 13, 2021 by The Wiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Feel like a cease and desist letter would be quickly coming in email from Disney Lawyers. You're only allowed to have fun if Disney makes money off of it. But they are not monetizing it. Similar to music play I would asssume. Mario Williams had the Super Mario Bros power up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I was thinking the Bills made a mistake taking Basham over Creed Humphrey. I'm starting to rethink that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Will Beasley think he is getting booed when the crowd chants Grooooooot? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Doc said: I was thinking the Bills made a mistake taking Basham over Creed Humphrey. I'm starting to rethink that. Basham looks like he can play. I know Morse makes a lot of money but he’s been solid, want them to keep him and draft a guard to replace Feliciano. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Do fans yell ‘Grooooooooooot’ at the games? If not, can we start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Mat68 said: But they are not monetizing it. Similar to music play I would asssume. Mario Williams had the Super Mario Bros power up. I was curious so I checked it out, stadiums and arenas carry a Public Performance License so they are not under the same rules and regulations. This would normally apply to music but I feel like sounds from movies and video games would fall under that same licensing. Now that I think about it I feel like I've gone to enough baseball games to know that they always pull out some sort of baseball movie video to play on the monitor. Either way, queue up the "I AM GROOT!" Edited October 13, 2021 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Starting to agree more with Bruce He would definitely be a guy who would evaluate this pretty well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Starting to agree more with Bruce Rice was more explosive/fast, but I see where the comparison comes from. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I was definitely a Luke warm taker on the pick. Very glad I was horrifically wrong so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 9 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Simeon Rice from back in the day kind of. Not really sure what type of more modern player he is similar too Simeon is still a modern day player to me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 8 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Will not be the last time we see that. How long before Daboll writes him into an offensive goal line play? Former HS wide receiver. Wouldn’t be a stretch to see that or some hail m****y defense which might have been nice last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 The most important factor that Rousseau brought to the cheifs game was respect. Mahomes wasn't necessarily always uneasy in the pocket when Rousseau was on the feild but you could tell mahomes played different, he rolled out different, he didn't try to dual Rousseau in athletesism like he did with Hughes. Really makes me feel good about future playoff matches with mahomes and jackson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, DCofNC said: Rice was more explosive/fast, but I see where the comparison comes from. Rice was a ridiculously good pass rusher. Rice's run defense was "meh" to be kind........and his football character was sometimes questioned. Rousseau is taller, has a longer stride and bigger hands and is more instinctive, IMO. It's really hard to find a perfect comp for Rousseau. Rice was a freak athlete though so that's a great one to be compared to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 8 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Do fans yell ‘Grooooooooooot’ at the games? If not, can we start? I yell "Rouss," myself. I think Groot sucks as a nickname for a pass rusher, it's too benign. For an offensive tackle, a protector, I could see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Rice was a ridiculously good pass rusher. Rice's run defense was "meh" to be kind........and his football character was sometimes questioned. Rousseau is taller, has a longer stride and bigger hands and is more instinctive, IMO. It's really hard to find a perfect comp for Rousseau. Rice was a freak athlete though so that's a great one to be compared to. It's Hunter in Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: It's Hunter in Minnesota. I say Calais Campbell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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