MJS Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Allen appeared on Bills Pod Squad with Maddy Glab and Kim Pegula yesterday and commented on getting too hyped up before games and needing to calm himself down. "When I get amped up, I get so anxious and aggressive. I come out there and I just can't throw the ball right. So I literally have to try to calm myself down as much as possible because I'm so happy I get to play football." Many posters here have criticized me and others who have brought this up, said it was fake news, etc., so here you go. Concerns about Josh's readiness to handle a full stadium of amped-up fans are warranted and a very valid discussion point. Hopefully, he'll show that he's ready to overcome these concerns. Why are you always looking for the negatives with this really good team we have? Literally all your posts are doom and gloom, for really no reason. We'll find out if Allen struggles with the crowd. Until he shows a pattern, I'm not going to dwell on it. I suggest you don't either. Try to enjoy having a good team to root for. It's been a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I should hope that I never have an absolutely terrible take and then try and beat that drum afterward. You guys are vicious! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: You have been flamed because of your take on the subject and it being a problem. He has been consistent that it takes him a few throws and maybe a hit to get settled down. You have constantly acted like this impacts for the entire game and seasons. It is just beyond stupid. Exactly. Even when he is overhyped to start a game, that is just it, to start a game. It's not the entire game. So as long as Allen doesn't turn the ball over on every opening possession the Bills and Allen will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mat68 said: Kelly puked before every game. Everyone has nerves and feels nerves. Learn to use it for good and not be crippled by it. Some players thrive in pratice struggle in games, while other don't practice and come a live during games. Actually someone created a list of famous sports pukers. The Bills have three on the list of 15. Jim Kelly puked before every football game and even basketball games in HS. It became a tradition… and his teammates per him looked at it as a good luck thing. London Fletcher also made the list as did #14 on the list who is none other than Cole Beasley. https://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/top-15-athletes-who-literally-get-sick-before-games/ I think ole Jimbo and London did alright for themselves and as for Cole .. maybe that is why he gets so wide open .. what DB wants stanky puke breath nearby … lol Others on the list include Bill Russell, Donovan McNabb, and Lionel Messi - which makes his name ironic. Josh should work on what holds him back but the fact that he gets overly excited is not a deal breaker. I think one of the things that gives me such confidence in Josh is he actively looks for his weaknesses and tries to mitigate them while understanding that you need to balance it with not suppressing the strengths. In listening to his teammates they feed off of his excitement.. mitigate it without killing the good parts of it. He will get there because he WANTS it soooo bad. Go Bills! Edited September 12, 2021 by CorkScrewHill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, MJS said: Why are you always looking for the negatives with this really good team we have? Literally all your posts are doom and gloom, for really no reason. We'll find out if Allen struggles with the crowd. Until he shows a pattern, I'm not going to dwell on it. I suggest you don't either. Try to enjoy having a good team to root for. It's been a long time. Very nice! I like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Giuseppe, I don’t remember people flaming you, but I’ll take you’re word for it. I’ve heard about him being amped up for a long time. That’s why he told someone how he likes Elvis and other kind of calm down songs before games. Theres a lot of players like that though. It’s not unique to him. Some players like metal, rap, and I’ve heard of a couple guys liking gospel music. To say it affects his play, in year 4? I seriously doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 10 hours ago, teef said: No one said it was fake new. No one just feels the need to put such time in worrying about it. It’s like you look for things to make you nervous. 🤔 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Been here in the hotel tossing & turning since around 330 am. I’m basically JA17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 6 hours ago, MJS said: Why are you always looking for the negatives with this really good team we have? Because my personality is to prepare for the worst so the fall isn't as hard if it doesn't go well. It's a self-preservation thing that often pops up in people who care too much. 6 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: I should hope that I never have an absolutely terrible take and then try and beat that drum afterward. You guys are vicious! This is legitimately confusing to me. I don't think I ever really a had a take on this particular issue. As in this post, I just reported what Josh said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Because my personality is to prepare for the worst so the fall isn't as hard if it doesn't go well. It's a self-preservation thing that often pops up in people who care too much. This is legitimately confusing to me. I don't think I ever really a had a take on this particular issue. As in this post, I just reported what Josh said. really? you took Josh's comment and then added your own spin on it: (from your OP) "Concerns about Josh's readiness to handle a full stadium of amped-up fans are warranted and a very valid discussion point." Not sure why you are legitimately confused. Your hot take is pretty obvious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Somebody get Josh the Calm app or a certified yoga instructor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Josh gonna be Josh....but seriously he is now older and wiser with a great set of team mates and coaches to help/guide him. Calm down - carry on - enjoy the Game. Go BILLS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: At least people are admitting that he's talked about it. Most posters here like to pretend it's a non-issue. Here Allen is literally telling you that it's an issue, and people still want to shoot the messenger because they can't handle anything but blind positivity. Blind positivity is one of the greatest characteristics a person can exhibit. Leave us alone you ol negative nancy. The kid is entering his 4th year in the league and has played in some big playoff battles already. He'll be just fine. In other news, Nasa announced there's an asteroid that MIGHT hit earth in 90 years, lets worry about that too..... . Edited September 12, 2021 by Da webster guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Doc said: Maybe Diggs can give him a John Henderson style face slap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 This just in: Young men can get very excited before playing a violent sport in front of thousands of fans and a television audience. Details at 11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 News flash: there is a 50% chance rain for today's game. I'm really worried Josh won't be able to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Allen looked sharp with 50k in the preseason game. It’ll be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 I wonder how everyone feels about Charles Davis' comments after Allen missed that wide open long TD. Said he's too pumped up, referenced the full house of fans and managing emotion. Hmm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I wonder how everyone feels about Charles Davis' comments after Allen missed that wide open long TD. Said he's too pumped up, referenced the full house of fans and managing emotion. Hmm. How badly do you need this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I wonder how everyone feels about Charles Davis' comments after Allen missed that wide open long TD. Said he's too pumped up, referenced the full house of fans and managing emotion. Hmm. You’ve got a point here - because we all know that passes over 40 yards have an NFL-wide 70% completion rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, teef said: How badly do you need this? I don't like being told I'm crazy when I'm not is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I don't like being told I'm crazy when I'm not is all. No one said you were crazy. We do think you enjoy being a drama queen. The first quarter of the first game of the season. The entire o is off. Why don’t you give it a few? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 You can look at his eyes before the game and tell how he's gonna play. He usually comes out of it in second half sometime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, teef said: No one said you were crazy. We do think you enjoy being a drama queen. The first quarter of the first game of the season. The entire o is off. Why don’t you give it a few? Teef suggests to Giuseppe that they go for a nice relaxing drive: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Better be able to make some adjustments at the half to solve this 4 man pass rush that has been smoking our OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I'm trying not to overreact. There is a lot to be concerned about. Let's be honest. Allen was flat out awful today. He was widely inaccurate missing receivers short and long. Had Sanders wide open for a TD. His footwork was very poor. Frankly, he looked every bit like his rookie year than last year. I always like to see QBs have long term success vs a half season or a one season of success. We have seen several one hit wonder like Cousins, Cam, RG3, etc...Its quite possible Allen regresses this year. Today is a clear and concise example of that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) On the TD drive before the end of the first half he looked fantastic … and the pass to Davis was beautiful… You think to yourself that he has now got it going…Then the 2nd half … It is so frustrating… Edited September 12, 2021 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I'm trying not to overreact. There is a lot to be concerned about. Let's be honest. Allen was flat out awful today. He was widely inaccurate missing receivers short and long. Had Sanders wide open for a TD. His footwork was very poor. Frankly, he looked every bit like his rookie year than last year. I always like to see QBs have long term success vs a half season or a one season of success. We have seen several one hit wonder like Cousins, Cam, RG3, etc...Its quite possible Allen regresses this year. Today is a clear and concise example of that. What you outline is the definitive story of this season for the Bills. Keep an eye on it. Is Josh an MVP candidate, or something like the 25th best QB in the league? We've seen him play both roles convincingly over the last few seasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Allen reverted to rookie Josh in the 2nd half. The Steelers overwhelmed our O-line and smothered Josh on QB draws. If our playcalling doesn't slow down good D-lines with a decent running game Josh is going to be physically under major duress. That offensive game plan was sad. Why was Josh in empty all 2nd half. Wasn't it obvious we couldn't hold their rush long enough to allow these long patterns to get separation. Josh looked confused and his decisions were questionable. All these teams have prepared for Josh running on short yardage. We need the perception of a run game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 He sucked today 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: What you outline is the definitive story of this season for the Bills. Keep an eye on it. Is Josh an MVP candidate, or something like the 25th best QB in the league? We've seen him play both roles convincingly over the last few seasons. I just don't like the offensive scheme. I think it's way too pass happy, puts too much pressure on Allen, is too reliant on Allen, and vulnerable especially against playoff caliber teams. Teams have much more tape on the Bills scheme and system. Defense almost always catches up with offensive systems. Imho, Cabell and company have to better establish a run game to take some off of Allen's plate. He was almost super human last year and I doubt we see that consistent version of Allen this year. In fact, if you look at the playoff games Allen wasn't that great. Time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 All our negative Nancy posters breathed a sigh of relief when the clock read 0.00 today. They finally get to post again. 2 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Maybe he needs to medicate (Smoke Pot) before a game to relax 34 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: Allen reverted to rookie Josh in the 2nd half. The Steelers overwhelmed our O-line and smothered Josh on QB draws. If our playcalling doesn't slow down good D-lines with a decent running game Josh is going to be physically under major duress. That offensive game plan was sad. Why was Josh in empty all 2nd half. Wasn't it obvious we couldn't hold their rush long enough to allow these long patterns to get separation. Josh looked confused and his decisions were questionable. All these teams have prepared for Josh running on short yardage. We need the perception of a run game. Plus, why open him up to injury. We have running backs, why not use them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, McBean said: He sucked today We. We sucked. The o line was manhandled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: What you outline is the definitive story of this season for the Bills. Keep an eye on it. Is Josh an MVP candidate, or something like the 25th best QB in the league? We've seen him play both roles convincingly over the last few seasons. My thoughts are that he can be the MVP candidate again, but right now teams are keyed in on him 100%. They know we’re coming out 5-wide, and we’re putting the game on his shoulders. If we can establish a run game, it will do wonders for Josh. With the amount of film on Josh and the Bills, he may struggle if we can’t establish a running game to keep defenses guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eastport bills said: Allen reverted to rookie Josh in the 2nd half. The Steelers overwhelmed our O-line and smothered Josh on QB draws. If our playcalling doesn't slow down good D-lines with a decent running game Josh is going to be physically under major duress. That offensive game plan was sad. Why was Josh in empty all 2nd half. Wasn't it obvious we couldn't hold their rush long enough to allow these long patterns to get separation. Josh looked confused and his decisions were questionable. All these teams have prepared for Josh running on short yardage. We need the perception of a run game. After playing the regular season last year without fans in the stands I was curious how the Bills would come out today. Emotional, all business, something in between? I do think the sellout home crowd atmosphere gets Allen too amped up. When the home stadium is full and rocking I think he gets a little distracted. What I'm looking at is a guy that wants to deliver for the crowd a little too much. On the road I think he's more composed and steady. And last season without fans in Orchard Park he played lights out most home games. The other glaring problem today was the Steelers rush never allowed Allen to get comfortable. He was under pressure on most plays. And off target on many throws either from pressure or anticipating pressure. The play calling today did him no favors either. I think that's a consensus view on the board tonight. Way too much empty which narrows down the play options to the QB passing the ball or running himself. Daboll also needs to mix it up when it comes to formation and personnel packages. Just understanding those two factors it was pretty well telegraphed what the Bills were trying to do play to play. Even those designed runs by Allen were well telegraphed. If I can figure out a lot of what the offense is going to do you can bet your life the Steelers coaching group knows a lot better. A little deception with the play calls mixing things up with formation and personnel groups needs to be dialed up here. As somebody said in another post defenses eventually figure it out and playing a talented and well-coached defense like the Steelers group being predictable is death for your offense. Today it looked like the Steelers defensive coaches and players were siting in on the Bills offensive game planning sessions all week. Edited September 12, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: After playing the regular season last year without fans in the stands I was curious how the Bills would come out today. Emotional, all business, something in between? I do think the sellout home crowd atmosphere gets Allen too amped up. When the home stadium is full and rocking I think he gets a little distracted. What I'm looking at is a guy that wants to deliver for the crowd a little too much. On the road I think he's more composed and steady. And last season without fans in Orchard Park he played lights out most home games. The other glaring problem today was the Steelers rush never allowed Allen to get comfortable. He was under pressure on most plays. And off target on many throws either from pressure or anticipating pressure. The play calling today did him no favors either. I think that's a consensus view on the board tonight. Way too much empty which narrows down the play options to the QB passing the ball or running himself. Daboll also needs to mix it up when it comes to formation and personnel packages. Just understanding those two factors it was pretty well telegraphed what the Bills were trying to do play to play. Even those designed runs by Allen were well telegraphed. If I can figure out a lot of what the offense is going to do you can bet your life the Steelers coaching group knows a lot better. A little deception with the play calls mixing things up with formation and personnel groups needs to be dialed up here. As somebody said in another post defenses eventually figure it out and playing a talented and well-coached defense like the Steelers group being predictable is death for your offense. Today it looked like the Steelers defensive coaches and players were siting in on the Bills offensive game planning sessions all week. Great assessment. Let's hope you're right about playing better on the road. Josh will not make it through the season with this approach. The O-line has to run block and Moss needs to be the short yardage option. In the NFL, you can't be predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Playoffs? said: My thoughts are that he can be the MVP candidate again, but right now teams are keyed in on him 100%. They know we’re coming out 5-wide, and we’re putting the game on his shoulders. If we can establish a run game, it will do wonders for Josh. With the amount of film on Josh and the Bills, he may struggle if we can’t establish a running game to keep defenses guessing. Agree 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I think it’s a legitimate concern. The coaching staff is not helping him much either by not providing him with a run game. It’s Allen or bust. When Allen doesn’t play well the Bills lose. We need to find other alternatives to win games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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