Buffalo Bills 2021 practice squad players

[BigDingus]

Yay! There's still hope for Jack Anderson! I've never been so excited for a guy to be a part of the PS, but here we are...

[Solomon Grundy]

10 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

 

I heard Beane say that also - wondering who they have coming in.  Sounded like a tour and signing - so I thought it was someone totally new.

 

@Reks Ryan - why is it strange they haven’t signed someone from another team.  We have a deep and talented roster with lots of guys they like.  It should be no surprise that they wanted to keep as many of their own guys as possible.  
 

The surprise to me was that we only had 1 guy claimed and some lesser teams had multiple guys picked up.  It shows me the Bills really have a pretty good handle on this.

 

 

I’m thinking it may be Jimmy Moreland. A CB who played and started for Ron Rivera. 👀

[Rochesterfan]

44 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I’m thinking it may be Jimmy Moreland. A CB who played and started for Ron Rivera. 👀

 

It is interesting.  

 

Going through the numbers both on the roster and on the PS - I am leaning away from DB.  They already have 3 on the PS - which complements the active roster being short.  Safety is the same except they kept an extra safety on the active roster and are 1 short on the PS.  
 

LB with 6 and 1 seems fine and DL has 2 PS guys so they seem covered.

 

QB with 2 and 2 and WR with 7 and 2 seem set.  OL - they kept extra tackles on the 53 and have 2 guys on the PS - so there is not a glaring need.

 

That leaves me with RB and TE.

 

TE has the biggest need with 2 active and 1 PS - when traditionally they keep 4 on the active roster.  I know Gilliam can fit that role, but that still leaves them 1 short of our usual numbers.  My only concern here is that we had a guy in Hollister - that would be your obvious bring back guy and they didn’t.

 

RB - we have 3 (+ Jones - really a ST guy) and 1 PS - not exactly short, but not fully fleshed out.  If they had their eyes on a speedy pass catching guy - I could see that.

 

I guess position wise - I lean a TE is coming in, but I just don’t see the value or the player. 
 

Available players that seem obvious - I lean CB as there are 3-4 veteran guys that could be nice fits - so my guess is a veteran DB will be visiting to be around for a last shot at a ring.

 

 

[Cash]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

It is interesting.  

 

Going through the numbers both on the roster and on the PS - I am leaning away from DB.  They already have 3 on the PS - which complements the active roster being short.  Safety is the same except they kept an extra safety on the active roster and are 1 short on the PS.  
 

LB with 6 and 1 seems fine and DL has 2 PS guys so they seem covered.

 

QB with 2 and 2 and WR with 7 and 2 seem set.  OL - they kept extra tackles on the 53 and have 2 guys on the PS - so there is not a glaring need.

 

That leaves me with RB and TE.

 

TE has the biggest need with 2 active and 1 PS - when traditionally they keep 4 on the active roster.  I know Gilliam can fit that role, but that still leaves them 1 short of our usual numbers.  My only concern here is that we had a guy in Hollister - that would be your obvious bring back guy and they didn’t.

 

RB - we have 3 (+ Jones - really a ST guy) and 1 PS - not exactly short, but not fully fleshed out.  If they had their eyes on a speedy pass catching guy - I could see that.

 

I guess position wise - I lean a TE is coming in, but I just don’t see the value or the player. 
 

Available players that seem obvious - I lean CB as there are 3-4 veteran guys that could be nice fits - so my guess is a veteran DB will be visiting to be around for a last shot at a ring.

 

 

I’m with @GunnerBill on this one. My guess is that they like Doyle’s potential at OT but don’t think he’s ready yet. I think they’re happy enough with their top 3 at OT, but if any of those top 3 had to miss a game, they’d want to call up a veteran OT to be the swing tackle. 

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

It is interesting.  

 

Going through the numbers both on the roster and on the PS - I am leaning away from DB.  They already have 3 on the PS - which complements the active roster being short.  Safety is the same except they kept an extra safety on the active roster and are 1 short on the PS.  
 

LB with 6 and 1 seems fine and DL has 2 PS guys so they seem covered.

 

QB with 2 and 2 and WR with 7 and 2 seem set.  OL - they kept extra tackles on the 53 and have 2 guys on the PS - so there is not a glaring need.

 

That leaves me with RB and TE.

 

TE has the biggest need with 2 active and 1 PS - when traditionally they keep 4 on the active roster.  I know Gilliam can fit that role, but that still leaves them 1 short of our usual numbers.  My only concern here is that we had a guy in Hollister - that would be your obvious bring back guy and they didn’t.

 

RB - we have 3 (+ Jones - really a ST guy) and 1 PS - not exactly short, but not fully fleshed out.  If they had their eyes on a speedy pass catching guy - I could see that.

 

I guess position wise - I lean a TE is coming in, but I just don’t see the value or the player. 
 

Available players that seem obvious - I lean CB as there are 3-4 veteran guys that could be nice fits - so my guess is a veteran DB will be visiting to be around for a last shot at a ring.

 

 

Reason I say Moreland is that he played in the slot @WFT. Who plays if Taron Johnson goes down?

[Rochesterfan]

8 minutes ago, Cash said:

I’m with @GunnerBill on this one. My guess is that they like Doyle’s potential at OT but don’t think he’s ready yet. I think they’re happy enough with their top 3 at OT, but if any of those top 3 had to miss a game, they’d want to call up a veteran OT to be the swing tackle. 

 

It could be - I totally agree with the logic, but if there was a veteran OLineman out there that was any good - it seems like he would be heading to an active roster.  OL - especially tackles are at such a premium that the Bills didn’t feel they could cut Doyle and get him to the PS.  They did cut Hart and I don’t anticipate him coming back and he is one of the better veteran tackles available  - so I am just not sure who this mystery Tackle is.  
 

I could totally see a young rookie or UDFA if they can find one - I just don’t see the valuable veteran OT that is better than Bates and Brown.  To me Doyle is just on the 53 to protect him and he will be inactive every week, but will get valuable experience for next year.

 

Ideally - I am right there with you - they would love a veteran tackle that could be a call-up and protection, but I don’t see those guys available.  The only position that I see veteran depth that has a talent pool left is DB - you have several CBs and even a guy like Marlowe at safety and a few of these guys might be able to play either Safety or Corner in a pinch.

 

This is the part of the game that I love - it is like math mixed with a puzzle.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Who?

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kahale-warring/32005741-5275-2700-ebaf-ccabda046f86

 

2019 3rd round pick by Houston

Spent 2019 on IR and half of 2020 on IR

Waived by Houston in mid August and claimed/waived in short succession by NE and then Indy

 

First name is actually Kahalekuiokalani

 

6'5" 250

 

Are the Bills hoping that between this guy and Sweeney, they can have one active TE who is not on IR?

PS Was actually drafted at pick 86, 10 slots ahead of Dawson Knox in the 2019 3rd.

 

[Rochesterfan]

10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

There you go - position numbers it makes sense - I think they must have been trying to give Hollister a shot at an active roster - or maybe his request.

 

Not surprised - makes sense positionally.

 

Probably a guy they have been watching.  Very developmental, but has nice traits - just to injured so far.

 

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Rochesterfan

[CapeBreton]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Picked 10 picked ahead of Dawson Knox in 2019, Bills probably did some research on him then. 

 

Guy has an elite RAS score

 

 

[Ralonzo]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

First name is actually Kahalekuiokalani

 

Well that makes it easy, rhymes with "salami-salami-baloney"

[YoloinOhio]

I’ve heard of him!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Sounds like a guy the Bills may have scouted back in 2019 and had their eye on. 

 

Roughly fits the same profile as Dawson Knox - sky-high athleticism, minimal playing experience at TE, struggle with injuries.

 

Quote

Kahale Kuio Kalani Michael Wodehouse Warring was a latecomer to football, starring instead in just about every other sport possible (water polo, basketball, cross county, swimming, soccer and tennis) during his time at Sonora High School in California. His one season on the gridiron gained enough interest from SDSU that he was given a shot as a walk-on. Warring redshirted the 2015 season while bulking up, and then played in four games as a reserve (2-17-8.5, two touchdowns) the following year before a broken foot cut the year short. Coaches gave him a scholarship before the 2017 season, and he ended up starting 3 of 13 games played (18-248-13.8, three TD). Warring only started twice in 12 games played in 2018 but was still named honorable mention All-Mountain West because he led the Aztecs with 31 receptions (which went for 372 yards, 12.0 average, and three scores). He did not play in the team's bowl game due to a hamstring injury suffered in the regular-season finale.

 

Active in 7 games in 2020 all at the end of last season, 3 receptions and 1 drop on 7 targets.

 

If he can stay healthy he could be an interesting developmental prospect

[AmishRifle]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Sounds like a guy the Bills may have scouted back in 2019 and had their eye on. 

 

Roughly fits the same profile as Dawson Knox - sky-high athleticism, minimal playing experience at TE, struggle with injuries.

 

 

 

Yeah.  Texans put him on IR due to concussion.  He didn’t play in his bowl game at SDSU due to hamstring.  Have read that he’s struggling with technical aspects of the position.  

[dje85]

4 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I’m thinking it may be Jimmy Moreland. A CB who played and started for Ron Rivera. 👀

 

Nope he went through waivers and went onto IR yesterday

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, AmishRifle said:

Yeah.  Texans put him on IR due to concussion.  He didn’t play in his bowl game at SDSU due to hamstring.  Have read that he’s struggling with technical aspects of the position.  

 

I don't see how he could not struggle, he has very very little playing experience and he has struggled with injuries to boot (foot injuries, boot, gettit?  I slay myself)

 

But if they want to try to create their own "monster" TE, this guy has the "uncoachables"

[JGMcD2]

24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Brian Gaine drafted him… makes sense. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said:

Brian Gaine drafted him… makes sense. 

 

Oh, Good Point - I hadn't thought of that.

 

Guy must be an Ace at packing a suitcase:

 

 

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, Good Point - I hadn't thought of that.

 

Guy must be an Ace at packing a suitcase:

 

 

Any clue why such quick decisions? Seems odd to claim someone just to send them packing a few days later. (I understand that some players get picked up to fill out the last preseason game roster, but this appears excessive even by that account.)

[SWATeam]

1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

Any clue why such quick decisions? Seems odd to claim someone just to send them packing a few days later. (I understand that some players get picked up to fill out the last preseason game roster, but this appears excessive even by that account.)

My guess would be some sort of injury concerns once a team gets him in the building.

[Logic]

Warring sounds a lot like Dawson Knox. Really athletic, new to the position. Limited production in college, but has the athleticism and grit to suggest he could develop at tight end. Yet another instance of the personnel department handing a raw lump of clay to the coaches and saying "get after it!". 


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kahale-warring/32005741-5275-2700-ebaf-ccabda046f86


Kahale Kuio Kalani Michael Wodehouse Warring [editor's note: what a name!] was a latecomer to football, starring instead in just about every other sport possible (water polo, basketball, cross county, swimming, soccer and tennis) during his time at Sonora High School in California. His one season on the gridiron gained enough interest from SDSU that he was given a shot as a walk-on. Warring redshirted the 2015 season while bulking up, and then played in four games as a reserve (2-17-8.5, two touchdowns) the following year before a broken foot cut the year short. Coaches gave him a scholarship before the 2017 season, and he ended up starting 3 of 13 games played (18-248-13.8, three TD). Warring only started twice in 12 games played in 2018 but was still named honorable mention All-Mountain West because he led the Aztecs with 31 receptions (which went for 372 yards, 12.0 average, and three scores). He did not play in the team's bowl game due to a hamstring injury suffered in the regular-season finale.

 

Overview

Exciting and ascending, Warring is still a relative newcomer to the game, but he has the size, speed and athleticism to become a versatile, high-impact player on the pro level. He has the competitiveness to handle run-blocking duties and the talent to line up in the slot. While his production won't catch your eye, his tape does with quickness and ball skills that should make him a more productive target in the NFL than he was in college.

Strengths

- Chiseled, athletic frame with very good size

- Has blocking toughness and just needs to improve technique

- Snaps hands and hips into engagement

- Good radar in space as move-blocker

- Races off snap and into seam with plus acceleration

- Early speed to lose linebackers

- Nifty, quick feet for sharp directional change in routes

- Talented to work all three levels as receiver

- Former basketball player and it shows

- Able to post up defenders and win body positioning

- Sudden leaper with springs to win at the high-point

- Makes mid-air ball adjustments

- Ability to run past or drag tacklers after catch

Weaknesses

- Needs to improve his landmarks as run-blocker

- Slow-starter getting into lateral blocks and loses positioning

- Inconsistent hands as base-blocker

- Needs to improve timing on work-up blocks

- Still relatively inexperienced with modest career production

- Not as clever in setting up route breaks as he could be

- Will need to work quicker and be more sudden with red zone work

- Dropped too many easy catches in 2018

Sources Tell Us

"He's exciting to project because he hasn't played that much football and he still has big-time flashes. He's one of those guys who was good at everything in high school athletics, and that usually translates out on the field." -- West Coast scout for NFC team

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Logic

[FLFan]

Warring seems like an excellent developmental prospect.  Let’s hope he pans out and can possibly even help us later on this year.  

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Any clue why such quick decisions? Seems odd to claim someone just to send them packing a few days later. (I understand that some players get picked up to fill out the last preseason game roster, but this appears excessive even by that account.)

 

 

It's possible that in Kahale Warring's case, they brought him in as an extended work-out and what they saw didn't fit their needs or wasn't better than what they had so...Move On

 

Or possibly the same reason we brought in guys like RB Kerrith Whyte and CB Tim Harris for a "cup o' coffee" - the teams made cuts, then had injuries so they needed bodies at practice, then guys came back from injury or we needed to make more cuts so Last In, First Out.  Doesn't mean they didn't show something or couldn't contribute, but they're "pushing a rock uphill" to unseat a guy who's been learning the playbook all spring and summer.

 

I expect there are a bunch of unsung "Traveling Soldiers" moving around the NFL in August, just trying to find a place to sit down for a minute.

 

Note that the "Math" changes once the PS games are done and the teams are filling the practice squad - while yes, better get in the Bills playbook and learn it, being able to learn a different playbook to give the starters good "Looks" every week is now Job One.

 

[stevewin]

Only 6' 5" 

[SirAndrew]

19 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Barkley can't give the Bills a developmental QB that they can keep and/or trade for more assets when fully developed. That's why we're keeping Fromm and Webb on the practice squad. 

Yeah, I like that they were able to keep Fromm. I’m not putting too much hope in a fifth round QB, but they need to continue attempting to develop him. You don’t need a spectacular backup QB, but finding a reliable guy who understands the offense isn’t easy. I wasn’t convinced they were going to bring him back on the PS, but I think it was the right move. 

[HOUSE]

My patience is Warring thin

[Kelly the Dog]

4 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

My patience is Warring thin

“I met her in the Rainbow Bar

She was a credit to her gender

She put me through some changes, Lord

Sort of like a Warring Blender”

 

- Warren Zevon “Poor Poor Pitiful Me”

 

I like it. With 16 spots on the PS you can take a flyer on a player like this. Plus, even though he’s never played, he’s already the 12th best TE in Bills history. 

[Pete]

45 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

My patience is Warring thin

What are you Warring a Karen costume?

 

patience grasshopper

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I remember a lot of board posters including myself thinking he was going to be the pick before Knox.

He seems to be a disappointment so far but let's see what he can do.

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I remember a lot of board posters including myself thinking he was going to be the pick before Knox.

He seems to be a disappointment so far but let's see what he can do.

Also seems like he's just had a run of bad luck has some real high upside if things turn around for him.

[EC-Bills]

On 9/1/2021 at 6:35 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Look at you, House! Starting a serious pinned thread! You’re turning into a respectable poster. 

According to the TBD guidelines, you should refrain from "Libelous or defamatory" statements.  I think you owe @HOUSE an apology.

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Also seems like he's just had a run of bad luck has some real high upside if things turn around for him.

 

Yes it does, I was just reading up about him.

[TPS]

2 hours ago, Logic said:

Warring sounds a lot like Dawson Knox. Really athletic, new to the position. Limited production in college, but has the athleticism and grit to suggest he could develop at tight end. Yet another instance of the personnel department handing a raw lump of clay to the coaches and saying "get after it!". 


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kahale-warring/32005741-5275-2700-ebaf-ccabda046f86


Kahale Kuio Kalani Michael Wodehouse Warring [editor's note: what a name!] was a latecomer to football, starring instead in just about every other sport possible (water polo, basketball, cross county, swimming, soccer and tennis) during his time at Sonora High School in California. His one season on the gridiron gained enough interest from SDSU that he was given a shot as a walk-on. Warring redshirted the 2015 season while bulking up, and then played in four games as a reserve (2-17-8.5, two touchdowns) the following year before a broken foot cut the year short. Coaches gave him a scholarship before the 2017 season, and he ended up starting 3 of 13 games played (18-248-13.8, three TD). Warring only started twice in 12 games played in 2018 but was still named honorable mention All-Mountain West because he led the Aztecs with 31 receptions (which went for 372 yards, 12.0 average, and three scores). He did not play in the team's bowl game due to a hamstring injury suffered in the regular-season finale.
 

 

 

Anyone who played water polo is okay in my book.  

[Freddie's Dead]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Who?

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kahale-warring/32005741-5275-2700-ebaf-ccabda046f86

 

2019 3rd round pick by Houston

Spent 2019 on IR and half of 2020 on IR

Waived by Houston in mid August and claimed/waived in short succession by NE and then Indy

 

First name is actually Kahalekuiokalani

 

6'5" 250

 

Are the Bills hoping that between this guy and Sweeney, they can have one active TE who is not on IR?

PS Was actually drafted at pick 86, 10 slots ahead of Dawson Knox in the 2019 3rd.

 

 

Bills clearly prefer another TE on the Sweeney developmental track rather than the sure-handed veteran who is ready to go.

[JDubya76]

 

what can you tell from a highlight package.

 

He looks like he picks good spots to settle into to make himself available. He also looks like he can challenge the seam. 

[Kelly the Dog]

6 minutes ago, JDubya76 said:

 

what can you tell from a highlight package.

 

He looks like he picks good spots to settle into to make himself available. He also looks like he can challenge the seam. 

Yeah, you can see why scouts and GMs are excited about his potential. He has size and skills. I like this signing a lot for the 16th player on the PS.

[eball]

15 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Yeah, you can see why scouts and GMs are excited about his potential. He has size and skills. I like this signing a lot for the 16th player on the PS.

 

Are you going to be writing your voice of the fan editorials again this season?

[Kelly the Dog]

7 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Are you going to be writing your voice of the fan editorials again this season?

Yup. They asked me to a few weeks ago. Thanks for asking, appreciate support.

[Coach Tuesday]

1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Yup. They asked me to a few weeks ago. Thanks for asking, appreciate support.

 

This is great news - I'm about out of toilet paper 🤣