YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's going to depend upon how much passing threat Big Ben can muster. The Bills D can shut down the run just fine when they don't have to contain a dangerous passer (see Jackson, Lamar) What I saw last year is for the most part, the Bills defense could do one or the other. If they felt they had to sell out for a big time passer, they gave up the run almost on purpose. I think the defense is going to look very similar this year given the scheme is unchanged. When it comes to selling out for the pass though I’m not sure they will need to do that as much on the back end if the pass rush is better, which they made a huge effort to improve. the other piece is that if the offense does what it appears to be capable of, teams won’t be able to just run the ball for very long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 hours ago, JMF2006 said: That Pitt Sports Writer might want to talk to this guy Adam Archuleta who admitted during the Miami PS game he was oh so wrong about Josh 3 years ago. He now wonders how any team can stop him There might only be 2 worst draws for your opener...KC at Arrowhead and Tampa the defending Champs and even thats debatable. The Bills at home with a full house on week one with this fan base has got to be right there with those other two. 50,000 for the PS game and they were loud and now 70,000 crazy football starved fans with a contending team to cheer for at last. This is going to be a beat down of epic purportions remember… there’s gonna be a lottttt of Steelers fans at the game, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Had lunch with my Steeler fan friend yesterday. We talk some about the game. He is a smart football guy and a long long time Steeler fan. He is not happy with their OL and Secondary which he equates as a big problem in facing the Bills. FWIW. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Had lunch with my Steeler fan friend yesterday. We talk some about the game. He is a smart football guy and a long long time Steeler fan. He is not happy with their OL and Secondary which he equates as a big problem in facing the Bills. FWIW. they are huge issues for PIT. PIT will have to try to run it, IMO. won’t be able to keep up if we drop 30 on them. Groot should feast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 30 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Had lunch with my Steeler fan friend yesterday. We talk some about the game. He is a smart football guy and a long long time Steeler fan. He is not happy with their OL and Secondary which he equates as a big problem in facing the Bills. FWIW. Met plenty of those until it actually comes to talking about their actual team. Then they go off reservation... you found a unicorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: Met plenty of those until it actually comes to talking about their actual team. Then they go off reservation... you found a unicorn. He's an oldtimer fan. He remembers the 60s and early 70s Steelers. He told me last year their big winning streak was a mirage. He was right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: they are huge issues for PIT. PIT will have to try to run it, IMO. won’t be able to keep up if we drop 30 on them. Groot should feast. Yes. Looks like a rookie 4th rounder, Dan Moore Jr., starting LT for them too. Interesting they played Dan at RT and Chuks at LT all preseason, switching now seems like a bad development for them (Banner had a set back, their starting RT and likely out) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: He's an oldtimer fan. He remembers the 60s and early 70s Steelers. He told me last year their big winning streak was a mirage. He was right. They had a great defense a year ago - But like the 2019 bills... they played a pretty weak schedule of offenses. Jag's week 10 with Luton at QB, Bengals x2 without burrow, the NFC east. Offensively they were sub 100 in rushing in 10 of 16 games, and they had fewer than 20 1st downs 20 times. They added a back but the oline is likely the issue (they had pass pro issues as well). Also, they were 1-4 when they didn't take the ball away, and 5-0 when they didn't turn it over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 If Ben truly looks like he did a few years back, they could have a good season. I have little doubt we will see the best version of the Steelers in week 1. They want some revenge, we beat them (well) last year and they were banged up everywhere. It is a good early season test for both teams, by the mid-end of the year will Ben hold up? That said, Daboll will spread them out and let her fly. I think the Bills are going to come our red hot. Bills 34 - Steelers 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, RiotAct said: remember… there’s gonna be a lottttt of Steelers fans at the game, too. Not enough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not enough Yeah, might not have many selling their tickets this time with being the opener and first time back in almost 2 years, Then add the excitement and expectations with the team now. Unless it's not sold out it, season holders may not sell as much as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Beast said: Ben Roethlisberger has entered the chat 8 hours ago, RiotAct said: remember… there’s gonna be a lottttt of Steelers fans at the game, too. I wonder about that. Bills sold an awful lot of season tickets. Hard to imagine THAT many people will cash out on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Ben Roethlisberger has entered the chat I wonder about that. Bills sold an awful lot of season tickets. Hard to imagine THAT many people will cash out on opening day. I wager there won’t be nearly as many as usual. Here in NW PA almost all the “Stiller” fans that I know who usually frequent the game, because it’s such a fun local rivalry, will not be going based on the not wanting to pay such an elevated price for an away game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 The Steelers offensive line is not set with 5 decent starters, I doubt Covid will cause us as many issues as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I think it's going to be a very close game and I think both teams are closer to each other than some fans think. The huge difference is that Pittsburgh is going to transition into a run 1st offense with a power run game which we've had trouble with in the past. When we played Pittsburgh last season half of the defense was injured including stud ILB Devin Bush, all of them are healthy now along with CB Joe Haden, this is going to be a true test right off the bat for Buffalo imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 22 hours ago, nucci said: Not anymore Thank you, Nuch. Especially when you consider that Ben isn’t Brady or Rodgers in the sense that 3/4s of the way through your career you don’t decide, “now, I’m going to be healthy” and everything will be hunky-dory. That’s not the way taking care of yourself for your career works. That’s how “I don’t want to die soon” works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 17 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: He's an oldtimer fan. He remembers the 60s and early 70s Steelers. He told me last year their big winning streak was a mirage. He was right. CB, maybe a mistake, but the 60’s Steelers were atrocious. They traded away Len Dawson and were perpetual losers. They turned it around when Knoll took over in 69. They started winning in 70 and thereafter. Before my time, but the older guys on the board can verify. Bottom line is their line will suck week 1. They may improve throughout the year, but they are in trouble facing this offense week 1. The Bills are going to shred them. GROOT is going to have a field day. I can’t wait to see this guy this year. You can’t underscore how much better this defense will be if he is even close to what he was in the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: CB, maybe a mistake, but the 60’s Steelers were atrocious. They traded away Len Dawson and were perpetual losers. They turned it around when Knoll took over in 69. They started winning in 70 and thereafter. Before my time, but the older guys on the board can verify. Bottom line is their line will suck week 1. They may improve throughout the year, but they are in trouble facing this offense week 1. The Bills are going to shred them. GROOT is going to have a field day. I can’t wait to see this guy this year. You can’t underscore how much better this defense will be if he is even close to what he was in the PS. I think, in general, most people have sold our defense down the river wayyyy too quickly. Anytime the defense has been brought up in the media over the last month it’s been as our Achilles heal. How quickly people forget how solid our defense was in 18 and 19. And honestly it was a top ten unit after the bye week last year. By seasons end the d had crept very close to the brink of being top ten in multiple categories. … to watch people talk about our D, you’d think it has been a perennial bottom dweller. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 SN, no doubt. I said that last year the Seahawks game and thereafter made a complete change. I’m with you brother. We were a top 3 defense in 18 and 19. We’ll do it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 22 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Yeah, that's what I was thinking when I did the matchups in my head. Cover 1 does very well made breakdowns in advance of games so I will defer to them but from a quick look I think that our strengths and their weaknesses match up very well for us. The one matchup concern I have is the one thing the Bills have yet to address on defense - what to do about pass-catching TEs? Steelers still have Ebron (assuming he can catch it) and have added Freiermuth (he will catch it). Kelce gave teams a blueprint on how to kill the Bills D with TE , similar to how the Rams schemed up their runs last year to find a particular weakness with the pre-snap set and motion. Hope McD and Frazier have spent time this off-season figuring out how to get it done with scheme because they haven’t added personnel to handle the TE eliminator role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 22 hours ago, Mr Wild said: Yes its the same guy What’s Madden’s gimmick, being the shape of a pear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: CB, maybe a mistake, but the 60’s Steelers were atrocious. They traded away Len Dawson and were perpetual losers. They turned it around when Knoll took over in 69. They started winning in 70 and thereafter. Before my time, but the older guys on the board can verify. Bottom line is their line will suck week 1. They may improve throughout the year, but they are in trouble facing this offense week 1. The Bills are going to shred them. GROOT is going to have a field day. I can’t wait to see this guy this year. You can’t underscore how much better this defense will be if he is even close to what he was in the PS. Yes they were. My point was my buddy remembers those days and knows they could return unlike most obnoxious Steeler fans! LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 5:45 AM, Greg S said: I am worried about the Steelers running on the Bills. I also think this will be a close game. The Bills should win but I could see a 27-24 type of game. Every team will be looking to run and control the ball against the Bills. And the Bills, like most every team require some rhythm on offense and if the other team is effectively running the ball and chewing up the clock, it makes it tough for the Bills offense as well because if they punt, then they lose more clock, if they score right away, they still give the ball right back. Bills have to do a better job stopping the run and they also need to be able to run the ball themselves especially on the 2nd or 3rd and 2 plays. To me, that is the key to their season, not Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, dakrider said: Every team will be looking to run and control the ball against the Bills. And the Bills, like most every team require some rhythm on offense and if the other team is effectively running the ball and chewing up the clock, it makes it tough for the Bills offense as well because if they punt, then they lose more clock, if they score right away, they still give the ball right back. Bills have to do a better job stopping the run and they also need to be able to run the ball themselves especially on the 2nd or 3rd and 2 plays. To me, that is the key to their season, not Josh Allen. Agree with most except the last sentence. As long as Josh Allen is the QB, he will be the key to this season and every season he plays in after that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 10:22 AM, Royale with Cheese said: It is crazy. He didn't tell me he Haskins was looking amazing but did say he's surprised he's looked impressive. The Steelers are going to be roughly .500 this year. Really? I heard on "Movin' the Chains" that Haskins would have been a likely cut if Rudolph hadn't got hurt. That he is not picking up the offense well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 One interesting stat I saw: for like a decade Pittsburgh has been at or near the top of the league in drawing DPI calls (last year they came in second to Brady's Bucs, go figure). Buckle up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:05 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think that's one reason the Bills wanted Sanders. Quick passes to the backs and TE are the bread-and-butter way most teams. We don't have that. Our equivalent is the quick pass to Beasley. Well there's just one of him, teams can shut that down. Against Pitts, we changed the routes Diggs was running and hit him quickly. So the idea is , if they have to defend 2 WR who can find the seams, they have to back off the pressure a bit. Having Sanders means they still have to defend Diggs on the intermediate stuff. This 100%...we figured out a way to beat these guys last year and that was when they had Steven Nelson and Mike Hilton (both underrated CBs IMO) who were sticky in coverage while Watt, Heyward, and Co. were getting after Josh. Pittsburgh didn't adequately replace Nelson or Hilton who left in FA so the quick passing game should be a much easier task this time around for that reason plus the addition of Sanders like @Hapless Bills Fan mentioned. Like another poster already mentioned, the Steelers O-line and CBs look like real weak links to me and those might be the two spots you have to be great at (other than QB) to beat the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Apologies if this question was already asked, but does anyone have a recommendation for good Steelers board (like this one)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 10:58 AM, MasterStrategist said: Exactly, Mike Hilton was not only a great cover nickle but also his blitzing skills. Big loss, coupled with Nelson who was better than who they are left with. Tuitt could still play week 1, to be clear. He has missed all TC (team defense, did some individual work/conditioning). Speculation is its not injury, rather he's still coping with mental aspect of death in his family. Some think he will return, some are saying it's too late to get acclimated for a game in less than 2 weeks. Tomlin supposed to have an update later this week. https://triblive.com/sports/knee-injury-latest-setback-for-steelers-defensive-end-stephon-tuitt/ Confirmed knee injury for Tuitt. Looks like he will be missing week 1 and possibly IR to start season. Big loss for Steelers. They are only carrying 4 corners as of now, would expect they are searching to sign someone before week 1 (hopefully not one of our Ps guys). Also, Watt still waiting for his massive deal, today was Steelers final practice until Monday. There is likely a 99.999% chance his deal is done by the weekend, I think almost everyone in Pitt/nfl fans would be shocked otherwise. He hasn't taken any team reps all camp either, but sure he's an all-pro sure he will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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H2o Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: https://triblive.com/sports/knee-injury-latest-setback-for-steelers-defensive-end-stephon-tuitt/ Confirmed knee injury for Tuitt. Looks like he will be missing week 1 and possibly IR to start season. Big loss for Steelers. They are only carrying 4 corners as of now, would expect they are searching to sign someone before week 1 (hopefully not one of our Ps guys). Also, Watt still waiting for his massive deal, today was Steelers final practice until Monday. There is likely a 99.999% chance his deal is done by the weekend, I think almost everyone in Pitt/nfl fans would be shocked otherwise. He hasn't taken any team reps all camp either, but sure he's an all-pro sure he will be fine. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/01/steelers-place-zach-banner-anthony-mcfarland-stephon-tuitt-on-ir/ Yep, Tuitt is on IR. He had 11 sacks last year so this is a pretty big loss for them up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Their O-line has to be a serious mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 6:50 AM, JMF2006 said: That Pitt Sports Writer might want to talk to this guy Adam Archuleta who admitted during the Miami PS game he was oh so wrong about Josh 3 years ago. He now wonders how any team can stop him There might only be 2 worst draws for your opener...KC at Arrowhead and Tampa the defending Champs and even thats debatable. The Bills at home with a full house on week one with this fan base has got to be right there with those other two. 50,000 for the PS game and they were loud and now 70,000 crazy football starved fans with a contending team to cheer for at last. This is going to be a beat down of epic purportions I bought a ticket during the first quarter of the last preseason game. Has “all timer” potential for atmosphere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 10:46 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Its in the Steelers fans blood. My brother is a high IQ guy, level headed and pretty reserved in general. But he’s a Steelers fan and he legitimately thinks the they are winning the Super Bowl this year. “Najee Harris has been AMAZING in camp” ”Ben’s arm is back and looks AMAZING in camp” ”Minkah Fitzpatrick is flying around and looks AMAZING in camp” “Melvin Ingram looks refreshed and playing like he’s 26 again….he’s looked amazing in camp” I have friends like this, I always remind them that Nathan Peterman looked amazing in camp, he only had one dropped pass in the first three games or something like that. I always get "who the #### is Nathan Peterman" haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 7:45 AM, galept said: A couple guys on GMFB thought we will lose this game. And front page of ESPN+ has an article (pay wall) saying Buffalo is one of the five teams expected to regress. I don't know how people are looking at two different teams than us, but I certainly felt like we got a lot better over the off-season. Time will tell. Regress to what? The Bills were a legit good team last year. They didn't get lucky. Unlike say Miami that had a lot of flukey stuff happen in some of their wins that likely isn't repeatable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: I think, in general, most people have sold our defense down the river wayyyy too quickly. Anytime the defense has been brought up in the media over the last month it’s been as our Achilles heal. How quickly people forget how solid our defense was in 18 and 19. And honestly it was a top ten unit after the bye week last year. By seasons end the d had crept very close to the brink of being top ten in multiple categories. … to watch people talk about our D, you’d think it has been a perennial bottom dweller. I used to work in technical support when I was younger and we dealt with IT departments. I would always say it sucked because they didn't just want you to solve their problem that they wanted you to solve it in the way they thought it should be solved. This strikes me as a lot like that. People don't want the defense to just stop scoring, they want it done in the way they really would like to see it done. McDermott's defense makes team go down the field and take 10+ plays to score. In that time, it's very likely they make mistakes. They don't play a physically dominating, aggressive style that causes a lot of 3 and outs which doesn't seem to sit well with people. People tend to have a less favorable view of results provided in a manner they deem unsavory and a lot more accepting of failure that is.. Edited September 1, 2021 by jeremy2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, downunderbill said: I have friends like this, I always remind them that Nathan Peterman looked amazing in camp, he only had one dropped pass in the first three games or something like that. I always get "who the #### is Nathan Peterman" haha. That might be open to interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, blitzboy54 said: I bought a ticket during the first quarter of the last preseason game. Has “all timer” potential for atmosphere. Should we get Guinness out there now then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motorin' Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Until we win it all it's Buffalo vs the world, damn it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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