Colin Cowherd on Allen...

[CincyBillsFan]

3 hours ago, wjag said:

I’ve been watching Colin slowly turn from critic to fan. He’s all in on JA17 and McBeane.  Joy is still only grudgingly going along. She acknowledges he’s good and her assessment was wrong but inevitably brings up year 1 and says something akin to disaster. 

This so true.  I would ask Joy to actually look at the Bill's offensive roster that year and get back to us.  That they won 6 games and actually moved the ball was a testament to Allen.  That was when I realized that we had someone special at QB.

 

 

[clayboy54]

4 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Are there other countries that pay 43 million dollars a year to play quarterback?

No, but they pay more than that for F1 race car drivers and star soccer players. So, you might want to rethink that attitude.

[Bill from NYC]

22 hours ago, Virgil said:

I wish it were a little longer.  The Josh Allen leap is equally part of why he’s so special.   What he’s become as a passer from where he was 3 years ago simply doesn’t happen. 

 

He’s become the example of what every GM, Coach, and fan hopes for in the draft.  I openly admit to being pissed when we drafted him and I don’t feel guilty about it because his ascension simply doesn’t happen.  

Allen was my second choice behind Darnold but I was thrilled when we were able to draft him. I knew that he could throw but I didn't know that the kid had an arm that I would place among the all time best I have ever seen. This includes distance and fastball. 

 

I have not been this confident in a qb since Kelly was young. This draft proved that Beane is smart enough to devote resources into protecting Josh. It really is a new day for long suffering Bills Fans.

Edited August 12, 2021 by Bill from NYC

[cage]

10 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

This so true.  I would ask Joy to actually look at the Bill's offensive roster that year and get back to us.  That they won 6 games and actually moved the ball was a testament to Allen.  That was when I realized that we had someone special at QB.

 

 

 

And given that she is Taylor's, that final game of that rookie year against the Dolphins was particularly an Allen coming-out party. He put on a show of what was to come and won Offensive Player of the Week.... despite "sucking" in his rookie year

 

 

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Allen was my second choice behind Darnold but I was thrilled when we were able to draft him. I knew that he could throw but I didn't know that the kid had an arm that I would place among the all time best I have ever seen. This includes distance and fastball. 

 

I have not been this confident in a qb since Kelly was young. This draft proved that Beane is smart enough to devote resources into protecting. It really is a new day for long suffering Bills Fans.

I was team Mayfield all the way and thought we had a chance at him.  Darnold was never under consideration because he was the anointed golden boy and we had no shot.  
 

Rosen was my expectation and was pissed when we took Allen over him.  But again, because projects like Allen don’t pan out, right?  
 

I never wanted Lamar 

[Boxcar]

3 hours ago, wjag said:

I’ve been watching Colin slowly turn from critic to fan. He’s all in on JA17 and McBeane.  Joy is still only grudgingly going along. She acknowledges he’s good and her assessment was wrong but inevitably brings up year 1 and says something akin to disaster. 

She's still on the Lamar is better train.

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I was team Mayfield all the way and thought we had a chance at him.  Darnold was never under consideration because he was the anointed golden boy and we had no shot.  
 

Rosen was my expectation and was pissed when we took Allen over him.  But again, because projects like Allen don’t pan out, right?  
 

I never wanted Lamar 

 

By the time draft day came, I was in the "I'll be happy with either Josh," camp.  After seeing/hearing Allen and Rosen that night, I was very happy and very confident that we got, "the right Josh."

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

She’s similar to a bunch of other hacks that won’t let go of his first year and you are giving her too much credit. She consistently references his first 2 years being bad. 
 

When somebody hints that Allen was bad in his 2nd season it immediately hints to me, their mind was already made up, that they were actually too lazy to ever go look at his numbers(which were very solid as a whole) and the only game they watched was the playoff debacle. It’s a super lazy way to try and act like you weren’t completely off base about him. 

His passing numbers were not “solid”.  His rushing numbers + his passing numbers were solid.  Compare his 2019 passing numbers to Sam Darnold ls 2019 passing numbers.  Were darnolds numbers “solid’?  And Darnold played in 3 less games.  
 

my eyes told me that that Josh was a better QB than Darnold.  He did more to help the team win and he was clutch when it matters.  He played very well when we needed him to for the most part.  But his passing stats wouldn’t lead anyone to believe he was a good passer imo

[Ya Digg?]

51 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Cowherd is just a front runner. He realizes that league and media perception shifted to recognizing Allen’s place among the best. This guy hasn’t had an original thought his entire career. This new take allows him to say he’s right, and cover the market for rabid Bills fans. He used to sing the Pats and NY team praises because he wanted the large market. That’s back when he said the Midwest and its people are worthless, and only big market teams matter. Cowturd is really good at taking the popular position. 

 

31 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:

1. biggest fip flopper in all radio/media

Now it is possible he is these things, or could it be that as Josh has continued to progress his opinion has changed and he sees how good Allen actually is?  We rag on national pundits who never change their tune, so finally we see someone who does change what they originally said and now he gets dumped on for that?  

 

My comment is not meant to dump on you guys either, just an observation and a genuine question

[Boxcar]

2 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

 

500K is tops in the CFL and you need league approval to hand that out

Damn, they pay that much? Legitimately surprising. CFL is so weird, the bigger the city, the less they generally care about it. The Argos bleed money.

[Stank_Nasty]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

His passing numbers were not “solid”.  His rushing numbers + his passing numbers were solid.  Compare his 2019 passing numbers to Sam Darnold ls 2019 passing numbers.  Were darnolds numbers “solid’?  And Darnold played in 3 less games.  
 

my eyes told me that that Josh was a better QB than Darnold.  He did more to help the team win and he was clutch when it matters.  He played very well when we needed him to for the most part.  But his passing stats wouldn’t lead anyone to believe he was a good passer imo

right. i literally said numbers were solid "as a whole". These same analysts dont discount jacksons rushing contributions. So why would they forget about 500+ rush yds and another 9 scores on the ground for Allen?

 

In just his 2nd year, Allen went for 3500 total yds, 29 td, 13 to's, and 10 wins in 15 starts. Solid as a whole. i think we agree there..... Anyone that says he was bad in his 2nd year is just trying to say it to justify their inaccurate stance on him coming into this last season.

Edited August 11, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[Boxcar]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Messi aside (and there are lots of reasons why he is an excpetion) there are no soccer players earing that much. The top paid player in the Premier League (richest league in the world) is Kevin De Bruyne on about £20m a year - which is what? $28m? 

 

It is also worth saying though that those soccer stars play upwards of 50 games per year for that money. When you break it down per game NFL players are extremely well paid. Not saying that is right or wrong, and the top of the pyramid in the NFL is smaller (ie. number of soccer players who earn over $20m per year will be much higher than the number of NFL players that do) but the top NFL stars are paid more than all but 1 or 2 soccer stars. 

You also have to take into account the average career length in both sports, where it isn't close.

[Bill from NYC]

3 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

But again, because projects like Allen don’t pan out, right?  
 

Well, what I will say is that when judging qbs, it is a good idea not to be seduced by arm strength alone.

 

Ryan Mallet and Jeff George had arm strength at least as good as Josh. I thought Mallet would be a star. I saw him throw a 50 yard post pattern flat footed. The ball had almost no air under it and it looked like he was throwing a baseball. We know how he turned out.

 

In addition to arm strength, Josh can run, is as strong as an ox, seems easy to coach, and works his ass off. He also seems like a great kid. He deserves every dollar of that contract.

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

. Anyone that says he was bad in his 2nd year is just trying to say it to justify their inaccurate stance on him coming into this season.

Agree. He made a pretty big improvement when he got some much needed help that year. But he was no where near "bad" for sure.

[Boxcar]

43 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

But wait- Bills fans told me I must hate Cowherd 

Cowherd definitely sucks. He's a reactionary who blows with the prevailing winds, and does flip flop constantly with very little in the way of original content. Often, I feel like he does things just to stir up controversy, which might be why he gets on so well with Nick Wrong.

 

That being said, this little monologue was actually quite on point and something I hadn't really considered. Sometimes, even awful pundits have solid takes. Like Chris Broussard just had one on the Josh/Lamar/Baker debate.

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

A lot of people had it initially wrong on Allen but they still want to talk about his first season and a half.  What they don't want to talk about was the poor state of the roster at that time.  The second half of the second season improved because some of the additions to the offense started playing well together.  Allen was part of that improvement and benefitted from the improvement of others.  Allen's work with Jordan Palmer apparently had a huge impact in year three.  Allen deserves the credit for putting in the work and making the improvement.  It kills some people in the media to admit that they had it wrong with Darnold, Rosen, and to a lesser degree Mayfield.  Cowherd is the kind of guy that acknowledges when he was wrong.  He also calls things as he sees them without mincing words.  I listen to his show when I can.

[NewEra]

37 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

right. i literally said numbers were solid "as a whole". These same analysts dont discount jacksons rushing contributions. So why would they forget about 500+ rush yds and another 9 scores on the ground for Allen?

 

In just his 2nd year, Allen went for 3500 total yds, 29 td, 13 to's, and 10 wins in 15 starts. Solid as a whole. i think we agree there..... Anyone that says he was bad in his 2nd year is just trying to say it to justify their inaccurate stance on him coming into this last season.

And some people want to see “solid passing numbers” in order to give someone credit as a solid QB.  His passing numbers as a qb in 2019 weren’t solid at all.  I doubt that Joy or most talking head type analysts added his passing and rushing stats together to get their totals.  They most likely looked at his passing stats and thought “meh, not solid”.  Then looked at his rushing stats and said “pretty good rushing stats…,but he’s a QB and almost all of his passing stats are bottom 10.”  His combined TD totals are the only stat that compares with the other qb passing Stats. His 3500 total yards = Ryan Fitzpatrick’s passing yards.  His qbr was 49 (25th in the league) less than Daniel Jones in his rookie season.

 

Total TDs, rushing yards and TDs and wins are the only solid numbers imo.  Just looking at his numbers (efficiency stats do exist), I wouldn’t think he was a good qb.  Watching him play the 2019, I knew he was a solid QB. It’s tough to make a case (good or bad) for a qb unless you watch them

play imo. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[eball]

17 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Total TDs, rushing yards and TDs and wins are the only solid numbers imo.  Just looking at his numbers (efficiency stats do exist), I wouldn’t think he was a good qb.  Watching him play the 2019, I knew he was a solid QB. It’s tough to make a case (good or bad) for a qb unless you watch them

play imo. 

 

This is without a doubt the biggest criticism I have of those who bashed Allen after his 2018 and 2019 seasons.  It's the same for those who bashed him pre-draft.  Those folks only looked at raw statistics and a few high(or low)lights.

 

A lot of us who watch every play of every game knew what was there; it's why before last season I predicted Josh would finish in the top 5 of MVP voting.

 

I'm not upset at, and don't begrudge, those who have now flipped their narrative on Josh.  Hopefully they have learned a thing or two.

 

[Stank_Nasty]

24 minutes ago, NewEra said:

And some people want to see “solid passing numbers” in order to give someone credit as a solid QB.  His passing numbers as a qb in 2019 weren’t solid at all.  I doubt that Joy or most talking head type analysts added his passing and rushing stats together to get their totals.  They most likely looked at his passing stats and thought “meh, not solid”.  Then looked at his rushing stats and said “pretty good rushing stats…,but he’s a QB and almost all of his passing stats are bottom 10.”  His combined TD totals are the only stat that compares with the other qb passing Stats. His 3500 total yards = Ryan Fitzpatrick’s passing yards.  His qbr was 49 (25th in the league) less than Daniel Jones in his rookie season.

 

Total TDs, rushing yards and TDs and wins are the only solid numbers imo.  Just looking at his numbers (efficiency stats do exist), I wouldn’t think he was a good qb.  Watching him play the 2019, I knew he was a solid QB. It’s tough to make a case (good or bad) for a qb unless you watch them

play imo. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair points. And so mine would be, is it too much to ask somebody that’s getting paid to talk about certain players in front of the masses to do a quick Google search on a players numbers before saying he sucked? 
 

 

1 minute ago, eball said:

 

This is without a doubt the biggest criticism I have of those who bashed Allen after his 2018 and 2019 seasons.  It's the same for those who bashed him pre-draft.  Those folks only looked at raw statistics and a few high(or low)lights.

 

A lot of us who watch every play of every game knew what was there; it's why before last season I predicted Josh would finish in the top 5 of MVP voting.

 

I'm not upset at, and don't begrudge, those who have now flipped their narrative on Josh.  Hopefully they have learned a thing or two.

 

And half those people still say “but I wasn’t wrong about his first 2 years.” 
 

…. Yes you friggin were. Take 2 seconds to go back and figure out how you coulda been so off the mark about a guy. You’re freaking paid to talk about sports. Geez. 

[PromoTheRobot]

I wish I could care but Colin doesn't even believe his own words. He wakes up each morning and sees which way the wind is blowing. He only stopped ragging on Allen because to keep doing so would make him look even more foolish...like his gimp Nick Wright.

[machine gun kelly]

3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Bear in mind that 90 plus percent of these guys and gals are NOT experts in any way shape or form. 
basically they are Sh-t talkers like one sees at the local pub, 

I resemble that shirt talker comment.  Just kidding as you’re right.

 

I will say for quite sometime we’ve had the following as Allen supporters to some degree.

 

Adam Schein

Kyle Brandt

Mel Kiper

Colin Cowherd has come around

Ross Tucker 

Chris Mortensen

Im sure there are more, but just thinking nationally, not local of course.  Ross is kinda a homer, but he doesn’t have a hard time reporting critical things of us so in my book he’s included.  He was very guarded on JA in 18 when he was still on NFLR.  He came around a bit in 19 and really came on board in 20.  That’s fine with me for any National reporter.  Just give the guy a fair shot

 

I see Cowherd as a guy who is smart and doesn’t want to be the last on the bus.  Holding onto old takes is stupid so he’s jumping on the JA17 bus.  Good for him.

 

Watch how many bandwagon guys make a 180 this year and act like it was some revelation of 2020 and didn’t see anything in 18-19.  Those are the guys that are tools.

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, BigBuff423 said:

 

No, they pay their soccer players much, much more to the tune of $70 and $90 million per year....

 

How much do they get net? Some of pay is inflated because very high tax rates in Europe.

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Fair points. And so mine would be, is it too much to ask somebody that’s getting paid to talk about certain players in front of the masses to do a quick Google search on a players numbers before saying he sucked? 
 

 

And half those people still say “but I wasn’t wrong about his first 2 years.” 
 

…. Yes you friggin were. Take 2 seconds to go back and figure out how you coulda been so off the mark about a guy. You’re freaking paid to talk about sports. Geez. 

Agree 💯.  
 

The biggest problem with being a mainstream sports talking head, imo, is that there are far too many games being played to keep up with what really happened in the field and not just the highlights.  

[H2o]

5 hours ago, wjag said:

I’ve been watching Colin slowly turn from critic to fan. He’s all in on JA17 and McBeane.  Joy is still only grudgingly going along. She acknowledges he’s good and her assessment was wrong but inevitably brings up year 1 and says something akin to disaster. 

Joy, as in Joy TAYLOR, sister of Jason Taylor formerly of the Dolphins? She might have a bit of bias against the Bills in general I would think. Agree on Cowturd though. He's the one who made the bet with that screeching bum Nick Wright, and won of course, because he was coming around to Allen being legit. 

[bigK14094]

Josh Allen last season reminds me of Kurt Warners sudden rise to QB stardom.  Warner eventually  won two Super Bowls, but kicked around a while before "breaking out" as an NFL QB. (longer than JA's two growing seasons)

[ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin]

Listened to this, and was really on board with his point regarding Josh Allen, and the bigger picture.

 

He does a segment "What Collin got right, What Collin got wrong"

 

I think he aced this perspective. It's not just that I agree with him, I liked how he messaged it.

[CA OC Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

Cowherd is just a front runner. He realizes that league and media perception shifted to recognizing Allen’s place among the best. This guy hasn’t had an original thought his entire career. This new take allows him to say he’s right, and cover the market for rabid Bills fans. He used to sing the Pats and NY team praises because he wanted the large market. That’s back when he said the Midwest and its people are worthless, and only big market teams matter. Cowturd is really good at taking the popular position. 

I haven't listened to him in years. But, when I did he was always very upfront that he plays to the big markets. Of course, they all do what it takes to get ratings, that's how they get paid. He was at least honest and would say he could care less about anything that isn't going to bring in large number of listeners. To that end, he possibly sees that even though Buffalo is small it has rabid fans and that Josh, being a very likable player, will appeal to a larger audience.

[Fan in Chicago]

6 hours ago, cage said:

Great perspective on why Allen's story is special...

 

 

Listening to this is 5 minutes very well spent. And not just because he is complimenting JA. 

[Motorin']

4 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

No but there are countries that pay soccer stars $148.5 million a year to play striker(Messi's last contract with Barcelona...$594 million over 4 years), and NBA stars make close to $50 a year now...

 

I think there's a big difference. Not about pay, but about opportunity. 

 

Professional and national soccer teams all over the world hunt for kids with talent starting in elementary school. And they hire them to play at youth academies. So many kids are given the opportunity to develop their skills and rise to the top.

 

For potential NFL qb's, the path is much much narrower. There's only 32 starting jobs in the world. And at any given time, only the top 10-15 players at the qb position have job security. Where as they are over 20 professional soccer leagues, each with 20 teams, and then multiple minor leagues below them which can win their way into the top flight (MLS excluded.) 

 

All of this just to say that Josh Allen took the road less traveled. His story truly is one in a million... Or is it one in a billion?

 

 

[BigDingus]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

His point in that segment was that Lavonte David was #100 which was way too low (correct) and his argument against Josh was unravels a bit in games v the Pats and in the playoff loss. None of that was untrue at the point he said it. I think the "not in the top 200" thing was a bit of hyperbole and I agree ridiculous but the nuance behind his argument was not so ridiculous.

 

3 hours ago, DCofNC said:

I think, in context, it was accurate to say Josh didn’t belong in the top 100 after that season.  Now after last year.. there’s just no arguing he’s one of the best at the biggest position of impact.  To me, if I were building a team, purely on performance, he would be my #2 choice as things stand right now. Now if I were building a team and I had to coach it or just generally be around it, he’s my number 1 pick.  Maholmes is the better performer thus far, but JA is close and his attitude/work ethic/general likability, it’s great to be a fan of.

 

Yeah, the context of his argument at the time wasn't wrong, but people probably disliked HOW he said it. I never understood why people got so bent out of shape when someone's opinion changes over time though. It happens to you, it happens to me, it happens to everyone on the planet. I understand it when people talk in absolutes, like "Allen will NEVER be good," or "there's ZERO chance the Bills EVER win a Super Bowl!" then sure, throw that in that person's face when they're wrong.

 

But acting like Allen was guaranteed to turn out to great is flat wrong, and does a disservice to Allen. Even with what Cowherd said, he wasn't guaranteed anything... he had to really work at it. His continued dedication to improving, the hours he put in the film room, along with the support of the organization & coaches, all helped get him here. The time he put in during the last offseason especially, the dude EARNED it. He wasn't a sure-fire-hit, he wasn't tearing it up in college, he wasn't a day-1 savant... Which imo makes it even more impressive. 

 

There's very few instances (almost none that I can recall), of a QB drafted on potential, size, arm strength, etc. who weren't elite in college, weren't filling up stat sheets, and were so raw, being turned into top tier QB's once they began playing at the highest level in the NFL. And to have a team notorious for crappy QB play/development like the Bills develop the guy? THAT is amazing. How many teams in the future will go this route & completely bomb? Probably a ton.

 

Hell, even Mahomes was seen as questionable. Many thought he was a system QB at Texas Tech, only with a great arm & athletic talent. Then in his first year as a starter, guy throws 50 TD's & is an MVP. QB's like Mahomes & Allen weren't Andrew Luck. Many people were going to be wrong in one way or another about them. After Allen's 2nd season, I still thought big games got into his head & lead to him making bizarre choices. His deep ball accuracy was among the worst in the league after 2 years, and not because people were dropping passes. He'd miss guys who had beaten their man & were wide open, or he'd rely on his mobility to keep a play alive & take huge, unnecessary sacks. 

 

Then the guy who couldn't beat you passing or throw for 300 yards shows up in year 3 & starts throwing for nearly 400, has nearly 70% accuracy & is nailing the deep ball to anyone he wants. You could literally see the fruits of his labor paying off before your eyes. And aside from the TN & KC games, he didn't disappoint in big games either.

 

TL;DR - All I'm saying with this rant is Allen deserves the praise, the money and the attention because he worked his ass off & EARNED it!

 

 

[wjag]

12 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

There's very few instances (almost none that I can recall), of a QB drafted on potential, size, arm strength, etc. who weren't elite in college, weren't filling up stat sheets, and were so raw, being turned into top tier QB's once they began playing at the highest level in the NFL.

 

 

Maybe "suck for Luck"?

[LanderPoke]

6 hours ago, wjag said:

I’ve been watching Colin slowly turn from critic to fan. He’s all in on JA17 and McBeane.  Joy is still only grudgingly going along. She acknowledges he’s good and her assessment was wrong but inevitably brings up year 1 and says something akin to disaster. 

Joy thinks he’s a racist and hates him because of the Twitter stuff when he was a child. She can’t get over it. She’s petty

[Buftex]

I just can't do Colin Cowherd...but glad he likes Josh!

[Gugny]

15 minutes ago, Buftex said:

I just can't do Colin Cowherd...but glad he likes Josh!

 

Why do you assume he wants you to do him?

[Doc]

34 minutes ago, LanderPoke said:

Joy thinks he’s a racist and hates him because of the Twitter stuff when he was a child. She can’t get over it. She’s petty

 

That's not an uncommon take among people who don't like Josh/begrudgingly give him credit.  Can anyone remind me what he posted back then?

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

7 hours ago, cage said:

Great perspective on why Allen's story is special...

 

 

 

Cowherd is a complete joke.  Last year, during mid-season he said Allen wasn't even the best QB in the AFC East. Now he's riding his ****. I had covid and did nothing, but watch ESPN/NFL Network while I was quarantined and the amount of BS he said about Allen was hilarious. I hope someday somebody goes back and makes a video of all his stupid quotes that turned into BS. 😡

[Stank_Nasty]

3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

Cowherd is a complete joke.  Last year, during mid-season he said Allen wasn't even the best QB in the AFC East. Now he's riding his ****. I had covid and did nothing, but watch ESPN/NFL Network while I was quarantined and the amount of BS he said about Allen was hilarious. I hope someday somebody goes back and makes a video of all his stupid quotes that turned into BS. 😡

The 2020 season? Cowherd was in on Allen from the get go after his hot start. I do, however, remember Nick Wright claiming Allen wasn’t the best qb in the division after Tua got inserted for the fins. 
 

Cowherd was all in on Allen through the whole stretch run last year. I think you have your talking heads mixed up 

Edited August 11, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

The 2020 season? Cowherd was in on Allen from the get go after his hot start. I do, however, remember Nick Wright claiming Allen wasn’t the best qb in the division after Tua got inserted for the fins. 

 

Nah, bro. I'm not denying that he wasn't "in" on Allen, but during the playoff push where we were almost neck & neck w/ Miami, he said the Bills & Allen might not be the best team/QB in the division. I remember it clear as day and I'll try to find a link later if I can. I used the wrong words. He wasn't saying Allen was bad, he was just a lot higher on Tua and Miami as a team. He said it multiple times. Just another stupid "hot take." 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

I think there's a big difference. Not about pay, but about opportunity. 

 

Professional and national soccer teams all over the world hunt for kids with talent starting in elementary school. And they hire them to play at youth academies. So many kids are given the opportunity to develop their skills and rise to the top.

 

For potential NFL qb's, the path is much much narrower. There's only 32 starting jobs in the world. And at any given time, only the top 10-15 players at the qb position have job security. Where as they are over 20 professional soccer leagues, each with 20 teams, and then multiple minor leagues below them which can win their way into the top flight (MLS excluded.) 

 

All of this just to say that Josh Allen took the road less traveled. His story truly is one in a million... Or is it one in a billion?

 

 

 

There are also far fewer kids competing for those NFL QB jobs.

Edited August 11, 2021 by Big Turk

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

That's not an uncommon take among people who don't like Josh/begrudgingly give him credit.  Can anyone remind me what he posted back then?

 

"If it ain't white, it ain't right."