The Wiz Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: What does it matter how he beats you? He still beats you. He's won 24 games over the last two years. Allen is a QB who developed into a threat with both his legs and arm. His arm was already a threat but became better. LJ is a QB would could beat you with his legs and his arm every now and then. Nothing has changed with is game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 I can’t read 15 pages. Do we have angry fans over this? I think it’s a great deal for all. Happy to see Allen’s hard work pay off for him and his family 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Also you don’t pay your QB 150M guaranteed if you plan on handing the ball off more (like some projected). Running the ball effectively will make Allen even more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 35 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Probably feels real bad right now to be Josh Rosen. Per Ninersnation Josh Rosen $850,000 Rosen is on a one-year deal with zero guaranteed money. If he makes the roster, Rosen's base salary will be $850,000. San Francisco can release the former tenth overall pick of the '18 draft and not suffer any dead money against the salary cap. We could probably trade for him since he is CLEARLY the most pro-ready QB in that class. Get him on the cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Boxcar said: I hope you're correct. Lamar Jackson's style of play (essentially a running back) doesn't translate into longevity. Apparently he has satisfactory WRs this year so I'm looking forward to Raven fans' excuses next offseason. Jackson’s style of play is also completely baked into the Raven’s offense at this point, both in playcalling and personnel. Which makes him especially valuable to them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 *looks at Josh's deal* *look at own paycheck* Yet ANOTHER great day to be a Bills fan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar High JA17 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BaaadThingsMan said: Running the ball effectively will make Allen even more dangerous. Respect the run game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, TroutDog said: I highly doubt this. As he only works here for a part of the year, I am sure he has a ‘home’ in a state with no income tax. It doesn't matter where his 'home' is.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 This organization has morphed into one of the best in the league. From drafting to cap management and everything in between, absolutely top shelf. Love that this was taken care of and leaves plenty of cash to build around for the duration of the deal. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Brilliant long term signing for a fair amount. Josh is worth every penny. And on top of all this Beane has Immediately put the Browns & Ravens behind the 8 ball. They will probably be forced to spend as much if not more on lesser projectable talent. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: What does it matter how he beats you? He still beats you. He's won 24 games over the last two years. Its diminishing returns. Taking more effort to get the same results. Theres 2 good games of footage from Buffalo alone on how to handle the guy. Winning 12 reg season games is cool and all, but hes not good enough to win a chip. When hes no longer on a cheap deal, is that going to get harder or easier to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Don't think I'd call it a "steal" but I do like the contract. The deal only trails Mahomes - which is right where it should be. He's likely to be #4 within a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Just now, jeremy2020 said: It doesn't matter where his 'home' is.. Ok. I disagree. Discussed this exact scenario with a NY based accountant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I can’t read 15 pages. Do we have angry fans over this? I think it’s a great deal for all. Happy to see Allen’s hard work pay off for him and his family No one's angry. Just a lot of quibbling over exactly how awesome it is to have a legit QB all wrapped up for years to come. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, TroutDog said: I highly doubt this. As he only works here for a part of the year, I am sure he has a ‘home’ in a state with no income tax. 8xs a year, going onto 11 games a year 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 minute ago, TroutDog said: This organization has morphed into one of the best in the league. Good things come to those who wait.... and wait... and wait.... and... At least that's what I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: It doesn't matter where his 'home' is.. Don’t the players have to pay the tax of whatever state they’re in including each road game? Edited August 6, 2021 by Governor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The leap in Minnesota got everyone excited and got our attention. This is still the play that confirmed to me "we got our guy." I know it's not literally one play that did it, but if you had to ask me which one it's that. Everything about it tells you why. The target (our WRs were terrible) The pressure (worst o line in Bills history) He takes the hit He never stopped looking downfield The Jaguars D was still very good and Ramsey called him trash that week Same for me. It also demonstrated how quick his release is. He had no business getting that throw off. Phenomenal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Peripheral damage. Daboll is likely gone, more so now. Anybody in the NFL who can turn a "project" QB into this type of contract is going to be gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Glad to finally get the monkey off our back after all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: No one's angry. Just a lot of quibbling over exactly how awesome it is to have a legit QB all wrapped up for years to come. 😉 That gives me some faith in our little community on here. I seen 15 pages and immediately thought there’s gonna be some drama 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Peripheral damage. Daboll is likely gone, more so now. Anybody in the NFL who can turn a "project" QB into this type of contract is going to be gone. I think we all know Daboll is definitely a goner after this year. My worry though is that he ends up going to Miami and helps Tua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Same for me. It also demonstrated how quick his release is. He had no business getting that throw off. Phenomenal. I forgot to add release and arm strength yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Peripheral damage. Daboll is likely gone, more so now. Anybody in the NFL who can turn a "project" QB into this type of contract is going to be gone. That may be true, Daboll might be gone next year, but honestly I think he's done for Josh all he needed to do. Thankfully he was given the time (several seasons) to work with him and get him to the point where Josh can take it and run with it now - even if there's a new O coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: Team guy for sure!! He didn't want Mahomes-level long?? Uh-oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I think we all know Daboll is definitely a goner after this year. My worry though is that he ends up going to Miami and helps Tua We may have, but he just got a lot more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: That gives me some faith in our little community on here. I seen 15 pages and immediately thought there’s gonna be some drama Well, we still don't have any TEs that can catch, so there's still that bit of drama waiting in the wings.... Edited August 6, 2021 by Blainorama5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Jackson’s style of play is also completely baked into the Raven’s offense at this point, both in playcalling and personnel. Which makes him especially valuable to them. You could argue its a disservice also. If the wheels fall off its not a SF or IND situation where, where you only need one new piece. Youre talking complete overhaul in OC/offense/personnel. Not friendly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I think we all know Daboll is definitely a goner after this year. My worry though is that he ends up going to Miami and helps Tua Not worried about that because he only leaves for a HC job and I think Flores has done a pretty good job with what he had to work with and is safe in Miami. On another line of thinking, it’s a darn good day for his agent! Don’t they get about 4% of the contract? That’s north of $10 mil over time. Edited August 6, 2021 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 I think we could have waited, but I am pretty happy with the result. If it's an extension, he should be very affordable for the next few years and we should have a window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: does beane have a drug problem lol i get being an nfl GM but wtf you working on this till 3am for 😆 either way beane is a Bills football god If Josh's agent is on the west coast, that means the deal was done around midnight their time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Just now, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I think we could have waited, but I am pretty happy with the result. If it's an extension, he should be very affordable for the next few years and we should have a window. would have cost us more to do the deal next year, most likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Not worried about that because he only leaves for a HC job and I think Flores has done a pretty good job with what he had to work with and is safe in Miami. You might still think that, but that sentiment has changed in Miami. His first year? Sure. They were tanking and he got the best out of a bad team. But last year? It can be argued he bungled the QB situation, and then the classic "Win and In" against the Bills backups... and the backups hung 50 on him. YIKES! He is in full on Prove It mode. Edited August 6, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Just now, RiotAct said: would have cost us more to do the deal next year, most likely. Hopefully that ends up being the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I think we could have waited, but I am pretty happy with the result. If it's an extension, he should be very affordable for the next few years and we should have a window. This is the key Im waiting to see confirmed. All reports sound like it's a new deal starting now. Would be kinda bummed about that one small thing, but I'd get over it quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said: If Josh's agent is on the west coast, that means the deal was done around midnight their time. PLUS, when you are dealing with that many digits, it’s like Vegas. There are no clocks, only adrenaline. This is the most important deal Beane will likely ever make with the most important guy you ever drafted. This is, in a way, a career defining player and deal for our GM. Josh is our cornerstone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Does anybody know Josh's address? I have an important letter to send him about how I've recently lost my job and am struggling to look after 5 children as a single father. I think he'd like to hear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: This is the key Im waiting to see confirmed. All reports sound like it's a new deal starting now. Would be kinda bummed about that one small thing, but I'd get over it quick. Absolutely wrong. All reports it's a 6 year extension after the 5th year option. ALL reports. Edited August 6, 2021 by ColoradoBills 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 🤣McDermott I'm dead LMFAO 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, RiotAct said: would have cost us more to do the deal next year, most likely. Truth. We’ve watched Allen all this time, odds are very high he hasn’t peaked yet. Never mind the growing rate of contracts paying him more, if he has a monster year he would of gotten 55 per possibly next year. They 100% got it right signing him now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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