Nelius Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) On 5/13/2021 at 12:27 PM, MJS said: I just re-watched the rams game. Singletary looked really good in that game. 14 carries for 71 yards, 5.5 ypa, 4 receptions for 50 yards. He also had a couple of nice pass blocks. Moss was injured that game and didn't play. Singletary definately has it in him to be a good running back. He showed it his rookie year and he showed it at times in 2020. I don't get the hate either. Solid yards per touch, always moving forward. Physical freak that annually get attention for his workout. Still has a job. He still has just as much of a chance of breaking out as he does of doing nothing. I think the issue is that he seems redundant, and Zack Moss looks just as good, if not more interesting because he's got less time under his belt. I love the idea of Breida switching it up with either of them assuming he's healthy and has the same speed he showed in San Francisco, but I doubt they'll dress all three. So Singletary and Moss? I like both of them individually I just don't really understand the tandem. Edited May 15, 2021 by Nelius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I think Moss is going to emerge as the number one RB. Breida could emerge as the number 2 back that adds the speed element to the team, Antonio Williams is a major wild card here. Singletary might not have a role if everyone stays relatively healthy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, njbuff said: I think Moss is going to emerge as the number one RB. Breida could emerge as the number 2 back that adds the speed element to the team, Antonio Williams is a major wild card here. Singletary might not have a role if everyone stays relatively healthy. Moss was really catching on at the end of the season. The Bills did exactly what they wanted to with the RB position this offseason, create a situation that demands strong competition. Singletary is now jacked. Moss is coming back from his injury. Breida is a FA trying to rebound in a high flying offense. They all have much to prove and have to fight for their spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) On 5/13/2021 at 10:33 PM, Buffalo716 said: Singletary was always jacked I've never met an NFL running back that wasn't He's 5'8 200 lb.. he's always been a brick s*** house Now he's just taking pictures with his shirt off ^^^^ THIS ^^^^ - There seems to be a rabid pack of Pitbulls on TBD. They ain't happy unless they are chewing on someone... Singletary - May 2019 https://www.buffalobills.com/news/how-heartbreak-motivated-devin-singletary-to-become-an-electrifying-running-back Edited May 15, 2021 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrtonHearsaWho Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Nelius said: God I love the offseason. One random photo and he's either overweight and/or on roids. It will be hilarious if the photo is just perspective and it turns out he actually lost weight. I also love the armchair fitness gurus that just think more muscle has to equal slower. I tend to trust the training methods of a freaking professional athlete. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 On 5/13/2021 at 10:00 AM, Royale with Cheese said: You're right. He shouldn't work out. Unless it’s at the Bills facility 😎.#jawuanjames👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 6 hours ago, njbuff said: I think Moss is going to emerge as the number one RB. Breida could emerge as the number 2 back that adds the speed element to the team, Antonio Williams is a major wild card here. Singletary might not have a role if everyone stays relatively healthy. I honestly don't think they will have a true #1. The offense runs through Allen and simply using run to throw off the def. I expect 60/40 pass/run. They'll use the hottest hand per game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I honestly don't think they will have a true #1. The offense runs through Allen and simply using run to throw off the def. I expect 60/40 pass/run. They'll use the hottest hand per game Sort of like the Patriots did all of those years 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 It better help him turn the corner or hit the hole faster... that is his problem! Quick burst and decisiveness is what I want to see. He isn’t a fullback. That being said he should break more tackles this year looking like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Nelius said: I don't get the hate either. Solid yards per touch, always moving forward. Physical freak that annually get attention for his workout. Still has a job. He still has just as much of a chance of breaking out as he does of doing nothing. I think the issue is that he seems redundant, and Zack Moss looks just as good, if not more interesting because he's got less time under his belt. I love the idea of Breida switching it up with either of them assuming he's healthy and has the same speed he showed in San Francisco, but I doubt they'll dress all three. So Singletary and Moss? I like both of them individually I just don't really understand the tandem. Singletary needs to gather more mental toughness. Year 1, he had ball security problems, last year he was pretty much yanked from the AFCCG due to not being reliable. He needs to be stronger off first contact, adding weight will hopefully do this. He has has the tools, he’s flashed what you need to succeed, now put it all together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 7:52 PM, whorlnut said: Not impressed one bit. He’s already slow and I’m not sure how adding muscle will help him catch a screen pass. if anything the pass protection will be killer for josh this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) On 5/12/2021 at 7:21 PM, Draconator said: I'm in the camp of trading Singletary and a 3rd to Jax for Etienne. I'm just not ready to give up on that. Apparently Etienne is spending rookie camp learning to be a wide receiver. Seems strange to use a first round draft choice on a guy you are trying to put at a position that he has never, ever played. Maybe he’s moving him into that H-Back role Edited May 16, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 15 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I honestly don't think they will have a true #1. The offense runs through Allen and simply using run to throw off the def. I expect 60/40 pass/run. They'll use the hottest hand per game 1st downs and touchdowns That is what we need out of our running backs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I think it’s clearly the job of Zack Moss to lose. -He’s an ELITE pass pro back. -Catches the ball well out of the backfield. -Strong runner, decisive and fits our scheme. That being said, I think Singletary vs Breida could be a fantastic fight for the #2 spot. From all accounts Singletary is working out like crazy and focusing on speed/burst. I’m not sure how much of that can be generated beyond genetics, but if he can just get a little more speed/burst, it could make all the difference for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Singletary was already a snail. As long as he finds the end zone I don’t care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 10 hours ago, SCBills said: I think it’s clearly the job of Zack Moss to lose. -He’s an ELITE pass pro back. -Catches the ball well out of the backfield. -Strong runner, decisive and fits our scheme. That being said, I think Singletary vs Breida could be a fantastic fight for the #2 spot. From all accounts Singletary is working out like crazy and focusing on speed/burst. I’m not sure how much of that can be generated beyond genetics, but if he can just get a little more speed/burst, it could make all the difference for him. Another reason is blocking scheme. Buffalo switched to more zone blocking in the 2nd half of last season. Moss ran behind zone blocking at college. Singletary didn't. Maybe that is part of why DS looked more indecisive as the season went on and his YPC dipped? Spain, Feliciano, Singletary benefit from man/power gap blocking schemes. People are down on Motor/ Feliciano. Spain was sent packing after being extended and having a good year in 2019. (Didn't like the switch?) Williams/ Morse/ Moss benefit from zone blocking. All are retained. Williams' career got a second act and was extended. Moss improved after the switch and benefitted from more playing time. Breida is a one cut zone runner with speed. This line is still lacking zone blocking guards, which is why I am confused the draft didn't find scheme matching IOL drafted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrtonHearsaWho Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 11 hours ago, SCBills said: I think it’s clearly the job of Zack Moss to lose. -He’s an ELITE pass pro back. -Catches the ball well out of the backfield. -Strong runner, decisive and fits our scheme. That being said, I think Singletary vs Breida could be a fantastic fight for the #2 spot. From all accounts Singletary is working out like crazy and focusing on speed/burst. I’m not sure how much of that can be generated beyond genetics, but if he can just get a little more speed/burst, it could make all the difference for him. For as much as I've supported Motor in a bunch of threads, I think you're 100% correct. We didn't see a ton of him but he seems to do a bunch of things very well. Not going to get 200 yards in a game but we don't need that. Call me overly optimistic but I see a lot of Fred Jackson qualities in Moss...just need to get him a signature end zone celebration 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said: Spain, Feliciano, Singletary benefit from man/power gap blocking schemes. People are down on Motor/ Feliciano. Spain was sent packing after being extended and having a good year in 2019. (Didn't like the switch?) Spain was not starter week for in LA but did play more snaps than starter Winters. He was returning to Tennessee which he played before and was told he was not starting and then he suffered a mysterious foot aliment. He was then released without an injury settlement. He obviously did not like being benched although he liked the money they were paying him. 1 hour ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: For as much as I've supported Motor in a bunch of threads, I think you're 100% correct. We didn't see a ton of him but he seems to do a bunch of things very well. Not going to get 200 yards in a game but we don't need that. Call me overly optimistic but I see a lot of Fred Jackson qualities in Moss...just need to get him a signature end zone celebration 😎 The two backs together do not make Fred Jackson. He was our most Thurman like back since Thurman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 2:36 PM, Success said: I see a big comeback year for him this season. Blocking hurt our whole run game last year - our O-line did great in pass protection, but didn't open up too many holes for any of the backs. He's still a playmaker. He has that quickness in the open field - they have to get him the ball more like that (short passes, screens, misdirections, etc.) I think the muscle mass is good. He was way too light in the ass. He could break a tackle or score a touchdown. My guess is next year he won't be on the Bill's roster. Singletary is nothing but an average run of the mill rb. Serviceable I suppose. He isn't elite and is easily replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) On 5/15/2021 at 3:04 AM, njbuff said: I think Moss is going to emerge as the number one RB. Breida could emerge as the number 2 back that adds the speed element to the team, Antonio Williams is a major wild card here. Singletary might not have a role if everyone stays relatively healthy. I don’t. Singletary was better last year and I think he offers more than Moss. Edited May 17, 2021 by Jay_Fixit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 On 5/13/2021 at 2:13 AM, sirebors said: Leave it to Bills fans to complain about a player working out too much, maintaining a strict diet, and improving his overall physical fitness. I'm sure if it was something the training staff and coaches didn't want him to do, they would have told him months ago. You misinterpreted what I wrote. Nowhere does it say I'm complaining. I'm excited about his workout plan and I'm glad he's going the opposite direction as K. Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 "Some members of Bills Mafia criticized me for getting swoll which won't help my speed..... 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I think he looks good. He had that hamstring the year before, so hopefully he's building some flexibility to avoid those types of injuries. I could honestly care less about his 40 time, if he improves speed out of cuts and breaks he'll be a weapon in the passing game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 He really took a step back from year one. At least he’s giving himself a chance to redeem himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Charles Romes said: He really took a step back from year one. At least he’s giving himself a chance to redeem himself. And that he will. Never underestimate a guy who wants it as bad as he does. He will shut up many detractors! Breida was the only necessary addition. The rest is scheme adjustments. Watch what I'm telling you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, StHustle said: And that he will. Never underestimate a guy who wants it as bad as he does. He will shut up many detractors! Breida was the only necessary addition. The rest is scheme adjustments. Watch what I'm telling you! I think the other necessary addition is more food in cafeteria for some of OL to get bigger/stronger. Having more time to work out in first class training/exercise rooms will help as well and time to get scheme worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 5/13/2021 at 6:02 PM, BillsFanForever19 said: You're all missing my main point. And cherry picking the multiple "removes" without reading the context. And that's that his good plays last season - the ones that swing his average - came on plays that didn't matter. 50 yard TD runs when the game was well over. 10+ yard draw plays when the D was more than willing to give him that cushion to prevent the ball going down field on 3rd and 12+ I went at this a different way. I removed 107 rushes from his career stats, mostly because I don’t like odd numbers. His ypc jumped to 7.31, which I’ll round up to 8 (odd numbers again). These are real numbers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 i hope he shapes up and plays better, but the FO didn't draft moss w a 3rd after drafting singletary w a 3rd the year before because they think motor can't be improved upon. you can say the same for AJE. all those guys are on notice. good for the team tho. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 He worked extremely hard this offseason. He wants to become a better back. What's wrong with that? Let's see how this plays out. I don't quite understand 10 pages of much criticism of a guy who is doing this to improve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Gonna be a beast on those third and inches? when are the Bills bringing in a little more competition at this position? Kind of lean right now compared to the DL we are also lean at CB & TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Clearly he's trying to fill the old DiMarco FB role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 2:27 PM, Coach Tuesday said: Adding muscle mass is rarely a good idea for a running back. ..true...also doesnt work for golfers or basketball guards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) Too busy getting swoll to attend OTAs? I see why some guys may not feel they need to be there but he’s not one of them. Seems to me his roster spot isn’t solid. Edited May 27, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Too busy getting swoll to attend OTAs? I see why some guys may not feel they need to be there but he’s not one of them. Seems to me his roster spot isn’t solid. To play Yolo's advocate tho.........he might be getting married or having a child born etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Should be spending time at OTAs and not working on his vanity muscles. He's primed to lose his starting role as is; we were going to Moss a lot more down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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