Royale with Cheese Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 It's 3rd down and an obvious passing situation. What 4 do you think it will be? Hughes at RE Oliver at DT Epenesa at LE Rousseau at DT Length is obviously something McDermott was looking for. He wants that giant in the middle to block to block the view and get hands up when the ball is delivered. That's my top 4. What are yours? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Boogie/Rousseau/Oliver/Hughes 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) Patulski/MCDole/Smerlas/Sherman White with Mc-D rotation of Kadish and Lodish (check that man's Super Bowl resume) Edited May 5, 2021 by First Round Bust smartass 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I think we'll see a lot of "Nascar" pass rush. 4 defensive ends. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Bruce, Dole, Fat Pat, Bryce Paup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I think I'll have to see the rookies play a few snaps before including them in any pass rush package. The NFL is a little bit different than college so I'll have to see something out of these guys before I am ready to put them on the field. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 my personal choice would be- either boogie-rosseau-obada-epenesa orrrrrrr boogie-rosseau-oliver-obada orrrrrrr obada-rosseau-boogie-epenesa This is strictly where I see things going once the season progresses, definitely not out of the gate. You can't keep talent off the field and I'm sorry but hughes is slow and weak compared to 2 seasons ago let alone 3 or 4. We have some major talent in the fold now that could use reps now not next year. Either Epenesa,obada,basham, or rosseau have better physical tools right now than Hughes(not even going to speak on addison) they just lack technique and a vast arsenal of pass rush moves(all can be coached to have them this offseason and with live reps in season) flame awayyyyyyy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I like a 3 man front with Epenesa, Boogie, and Oliver, with Rousseau lurking a step back ready to shoot a gap in the interior. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Allen2Diggs said: I like a 3 man front with Epenesa, Boogie, and Oliver, with Rousseau lurking a step back ready to shoot a gap in the interior. thats a nice set i concur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I’ll probably watch the rookies play a few snaps before deciding 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's 3rd down and an obvious passing situation. What 4 do you think it will be? Hughes at RE Oliver at DT Epenesa at LE Rousseau at DT Length is obviously something McDermott was looking for. He wants that giant in the middle to block to block the view and get hands up when the ball is delivered. That's my top 4. What are yours? If it's an obvious passing down, Obada will be in. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Boxcar said: If it's an obvious passing down, Obada will be in. I'm excited to see him in TC. Another long , freakish build they can add to the rotation. These long guys , such as Obada and Rousseau can get their arm in the QBs space , move the QB off their spot and right into a sack. They're impact will be deeper than the stats. I think we heavily upgraded our DL. Lost QJeff and Murphy. Gained Star , Rousseau, Boogie, Oba . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's 3rd down and an obvious passing situation. What 4 do you think it will be? Hughes at RE Oliver at DT Epenesa at LE Rousseau at DT Length is obviously something McDermott was looking for. He wants that giant in the middle to block to block the view and get hands up when the ball is delivered. That's my top 4. What are yours? No way to even know how many snaps he’ll get as a rookie, but I wonder what the over/under should be on tipped balls. That is one big, looooong guy! And he has a knack for keeping his head up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's 3rd down and an obvious passing situation. What 4 do you think it will be? Hughes at RE Oliver at DT Epenesa at LE Rousseau at DT Length is obviously something McDermott was looking for. He wants that giant in the middle to block to block the view and get hands up when the ball is delivered. That's my top 4. What are yours? Either Basham or Epenesa opposite Jerry. Should be nice competition along the DL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 The great thing about having so many pass rushers is that you can rotate guys in and out and there is going to be someone who can get there quick no matter who is the starting line. I do think that the coaches have been rethinking what the DL should look like. Haven't figured out what they are thinking but it is clear they want the QB to get smacked around. I think training camp is going to be real interesting. Buffalo has a bunch of young DEs and they are good. Going to be real hard to keep them off the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Maybin, McCargo, troupe, Alex carrington Try to stop em 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) Hughes was tied with TJ Watt for highest pass rush win rate. Bills D was 2nd in the league at that stat. The outside pass rush wasn't the main problem. The coverage scheme was soft and the inside rush was weak allowing qbs to avoid rush and hit open outlets. Tighter coverage and more push in the middle would have resulted in more sacks. I don't think the outside rush was the main problem, but they definitely needed an influx of young talent. Edited May 5, 2021 by Turk71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Keep them away from Josh. Guess that's why they got trubisky. He'll be sore with our group going after him. Poor fella...🤗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Hot take on this topic: If Oliver isn't one of your 4 answers he should at least be on the warm -- if not hot -- seat... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 This is maybe total wishful thinking, but I am going to predict that Epenesa is going to have at least 10 sacks and will be tough to keep off the field this year. He will be our best pass rusher. With that, I can see Hughes, Oliver, Rousseau, and Epenesa as the four on the field on 3rd down obvious passing situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Hot take on this topic: If Oliver isn't one of your 4 answers he should at least be on the warm -- if not hot -- seat... Oliver is probably the strongest and has the best bend out of anyone not named Hughes. If he isn’t on your list you’re not doing this exercise correctly. Edited May 5, 2021 by CommonCents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, CommonCents said: Oliver is probably the strongest and has the best bend out of everyone not named Hughes. If he isn’t on your list you’re not doing this exercise correctly. I think you missed my point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Boxcar said: If it's an obvious passing down, Obada will be in. I agree. Unless they find a trade partner for Efe, I think he lines up outside with Jerry. Ed with be our 3T and they'll rotate Rousseau, Boogie and AJE as the 4th rusher. We will have fresh pass rushers all season. Star on running downs and I don't want to see Mario or Harrison on too many snaps. Cox & Zimmer will probably get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Maybin, McCargo, troupe, Alex carrington Try to stop em I would swap out troupe for Jasper personally. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, BruceVilanch said: I would swap out troupe for Jasper personally. Absolutely How could I forget the pride of bethel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's 3rd down and an obvious passing situation. What 4 do you think it will be? Hughes at RE Oliver at DT Epenesa at LE Rousseau at DT Length is obviously something McDermott was looking for. He wants that giant in the middle to block to block the view and get hands up when the ball is delivered. That's my top 4. What are yours? Trade Hughes for a day two pick next year, put Obada, Oliver inside and put Bash and Rousseau on the edge. Use AJ as a situational rusher. Rousseau is slippery, he has just as much value outside as he does in, until/if he adds 20 pounds of muscle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: This is maybe total wishful thinking, but I am going to predict that Epenesa is going to have at least 10 sacks and will be tough to keep off the field this year. He will be our best pass rusher. With that, I can see Hughes, Oliver, Rousseau, and Epenesa as the four on the field on 3rd down obvious passing situations. I'd be surprised if he gets more than 6. I think Busham and Obada are better rushers. 3 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Trade Hughes for a day two pick next year, put Obada, Oliver inside and put Bash and Rousseau on the edge. Use AJ as a situational rusher. Rousseau is slippery, he has just as much value outside as he does in, until/if he adds 20 pounds of muscle. I prefer Rousseau on the inside and Obada on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipnmi Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 It's pretty telling that nobody has mentioned Mario Addison in this thread. Does he even make the 53? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just something to think about Sacks are nice and they look great on TV but what we ultimately want to do is affect the qb Either get them off their spot make them throw it whenever they’re not ready etc. because a lot of offenses are just a quick step and throw nowadays the Length of the linemanRushing matters because they can reach around and strip a ball or get their hands on a QB without actually getting their whole body into them when they’re being blocked take a look at the length Of our rushers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Flipnmi said: It's pretty telling that nobody has mentioned Mario Addison in this thread. Does he even make the 53? I think he could be a post June 1 cut where I believe the Bills save even more on the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Maybin, McCargo, troupe, Alex carrington Try to stop em I was waiting for some wise ars to bring this up. Shocker, it’s you. I had a nice laugh on that one. Thx 716. Carrington was a nice touch. You must have been a fan of Dobler on offense as well (spitting on opposing knuckles). 1 hour ago, Flipnmi said: It's pretty telling that nobody has mentioned Mario Addison in this thread. Does he even make the 53? Who? Just kidding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Augie said: No way to even know how many snaps he’ll get as a rookie, but I wonder what the over/under should be on tipped balls. That is one big, looooong guy! And he has a knack for keeping his head up. Not just tipped balls, but since he's so tall, wonder if he'll be getting tips while he's still in the motion of getting his arm up, causing more tips to go up high in the air instead of just getting batted down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Maybin, McCargo, troupe, Alex carrington Try to stop em So you never lived through the terror of Mike McBath, Waddy Harvey, Al Cowlings? Let's throw in Eric Flowers as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: So you never lived through the terror of Mike McBath, Waddy Harvey, Al Cowlings? Let's throw in Eric Flowers as well. I feel like the average age of this board is not 70 so I kept it to this century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 The big ? Is will teams counter us with max protect if a te blocks that is 7 people not going out for a pass and or 5 ol rd and qb will we use 4 d line man and or in a lorax role as the weekside lb and rush 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForMacAdoo Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Maybin, McCargo, troupe, Alex carrington Try to stop em Hahaha! Poor Torell Troup, not his fault but he will always be known as the guy that went BEFORE Gronk in the 2010 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 50 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I feel like the average age of this board is not 70 so I kept it to this century That's why I added Flowers. I've lived through some brutal Dlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arm of Harm Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Length is obviously something McDermott was looking for. In that case, he should have signed Ed Wang! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 JJ Watt, Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, TJ Watt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3rd and long 5 man front Hughes Basham Oliver Rousseau Obada/Addison withMilano and 5dbs. No time for downfield plays to develop. So sick of watching teams convert 3rd and longs because of soft coverage or lack of aggression. 3rd and long is when got em where you want em and go for the kill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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