Process Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I really wish we would move on from Edmunds this off-season. It's time IMO. And he should have decent trade value being young and still having "potential". He is a pro bowl lb after all, lol. He is a disaster at MLB and is going to get abused by the pats. I feel like McBeane is going to be really stubborn with him though, and he's going to end up being our starting MLB for way too long. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Your act is soooooo tired. I mean, he’s not wrong. Covering the TE was a big problem for the defense last season. Belichick is a very smart man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Isn’t that why you have such “good” cover LBs in Milano and Edmunds?(Although the data suggests the complete opposite of Edmunds) What data suggests this? Also, I thought you didn’t trust data... weird statement to make considering that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Embrace it. This pretty much guarantees the Bills won’t be complacent and this looks a lot like the Pats flailing for relevancy. Yeah, I'm trying. I keep rationalizing that every year there is a team like this (including the Bills in a few of the drought years), and it's almost never a team that ends up being a contender in the regular season. Still, it's been a crazy couple of days for that team. If I was a Pats fan, I'd be pretty stoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: As I've said, Jimmy G looks like the prime target for me. Yea if he is available I am sure he is the preference. But re-signing Cam makes me think they enquired and got a no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Isn’t that why you have such “good” cover LBs in Milano and Edmunds?(Although the data suggests the complete opposite of Edmunds) I'm not a fan of Edmunds...3 years in and meh at best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Calm down Bill. Don’t spend all of your stimulus in one day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Reed83HOF said: I'm not a fan of Edmunds...3 years in and meh at best... Meh is being generous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Shade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Feels like Bill just got his first alimony check and is out to prove to Tom that he doesn't need or miss him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) I think that Henry and Smith are nice signings for the Pats** but it all depends on who's throwing them the ball. These two TE's aren't vintage Gronk and Hernandez either. These aren't your Tom Brady New England Patriot weapons on offense. I think it makes their offense better but it only moves them from dumpster fire to respectable with their QB situation. Obviously that can change, so we shall see. EDIT: Also this highlights how bad the Pats drafting has been recently. They just used 2 3rd round picks on TEs. They used a 1st round pick on Harry. Edited March 16, 2021 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: As I've said, Jimmy G looks like the prime target for me. I think San Fran would happily upgrade if they could. The SF team that went to super bowl was stacked. With above average QB play, they beat the Chiefs. New England with Jimmy G is nowhere near as good as that San Fran team was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: I think that Henry and Smith are nice signings for the Pats** but it all depends on who's throwing them the ball. These two TE's aren't vintage Gronk and Hernandez either. These aren't your Tom Brady New England Patriot weapons on offense. I think it makes their offense better but it only moves them from dumpster fire to respectable with their QB situation. Obviously that can change, so we shall see. Well, are they just flipping the model? Do they plan to trade their entire draft? It’s possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I told you guys. Belichick sees Brady go to Tampa and win a SB then goes completely banaynays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Estro said: The Pats moves to me are a clear indicator that they have their eyes on trading up for a QB in the 1st round. I dont think they're signing all of these weapons just to watch Cam Newton throw them ground-balls all season. Will it be a trade up into the 5-7 range for Fields or Trey Lance or will it be a trade up into the 9-13 range for Mac Jones? Not sure, but my gut tells me they'd prefer an athletic type so my money is on Fields or Lance. Lance and Fields won't make it out of the top 5. Pats aren't in position to draft one of the top QBs this year. If they want to draft Mac Jones, sure. He doesn't scare me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Governor said: Well, are they just flipping the model? Do they plan to trade their entire draft? It’s possible. How much time does BB have left? Could he trade this draft and a bunch of 1sts to get a proven QB like Wilson or Watson? I think he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Oh no... Cam is going to shred us Cam did shred us on a final drive till he fumbled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Well they definitely are stock piling in the position no Bills player or scheme can cover. Yeah, this isn’t good at all. We can’t roll with this defense. We need to be bigger and better. Our scheme is somewhat soft to begin with. They’re going to bludgeon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: Make the trade for Ertz. I heard Philly was asking for a 3rd or 4th round pick. Just do it Ok, since people seem to hate this, how about a 6th rounder? Is that better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Isn’t that why you have such “good” cover LBs in Milano and Edmunds?(Although the data suggests the complete opposite of Edmunds) We were the NFL worst team covering TEs last year and have long been unable to do so. Our D is soft against the run and terrible at covering TEs. BB is building a team to exploit both. We haven't responded as of yet. Gotta believe Beane toughens the trenches and finds a big nickel solution. Edmunds Is a liability against NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 A great quote I just saw on Twitter: "Handing out huge contracts in Free agency is the price you pay for drafting poorly". Case in point: Belichick spent two third round picks on tight ends last year -- one of whom he traded up to select -- and then had to turn around and sign two in free agency the very next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 What a revolting development this is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Passer rating vs Edmunds was ridiculously high. Dude reminds me of McKelvin in coverage. He’s there to make a play and never does because he is too slow to react to the ball or just doesn’t have a feel for when the ball is going to be coming at him. Yeah it was high this year... what about previous years... ? I think we had this discussion before... but his passer rating the 1st half the season was VERY high and then it came back down around his career average in the second half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Cam did shred us on a final drive till he fumbled it. His numbers in the 2nd game - 5/10 34 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: ...said everyone about Buffalo between Kelly and Allen... Exactly...Some of the panic on this thread is cracking me up... Jesus...Looks like there is still some PTSD remaining out there from the Brady years. Just a heads up folks...There was not one single off season the Pats worried about the Bills during the Brady years and the drought...Not one...We have the hammer now folks...Enjoy it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Aussie Joe said: His numbers in the 2nd game - 5/10 34 yards. mm I was not talking about the second game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, aristocrat said: wow they are buying a team this year huh? they must have faith cam can get back to form Sure looks like a huge push ; with the two tight ends I wonder if the pats are taking a cue from the ravens. With Cam playing the role if Lamar, it wouldn’t surprise me if they try a power run game ( they have picks to easily draft a very good back) with double tight ends and adequate wrs compared to last year. also addressed their rush with Judon. Been a pretty impressive couple of days with the draft still to come. That type of offense plays against our weakness against the run and tight ends. Pats really making moves that I think will make them the toughest competition in the East , as I think the fins will be limited by tua and his progression. If the pats either draft a qb or heaven forbid , somehow get a better.vet than Cam, this is going to be a tough year. We are limited by the cap so we may make one or two second tier additions and then hope we get some impact for this year in the first / second round. I am leaning toward making our strength stronger by shooting for etienne if possible , allowing our O to score with anyone. Not sure how effectively we can fix the rush with what’s left out there ( clowney ?) or hoping on getting an impactful edge guy as late as 30. BeAne did well holding onto our o line and Milano , but not sure how he can fix that rush this year. Better shore up cb2 as well with a cb who supports against the run as well as can come up to press so we don’t keep dropping in that soft zone that KC just rips apart. Pats in the division, Kc in the conference , appear to be our largest obstacles. Bb not standing still ; needs his own title without Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, PrimeTime101 said: mm I was not talking about the second game That second game was a WIND event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: We were the NFL worst team covering TEs last year and have long been unable to do so. Our D is soft against the run and terrible at covering TEs. BB is building a team to exploit both. We haven't responded as of yet. Gotta believe Beane toughens the trenches and finds a big nickel solution. Edmunds Is a liability against NE Reddick would be the guy. I don’t know what the money would look like though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: mm I was not talking about the second game I wasn’t talking about either game last year originally when you quoted me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Green Lightning Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, CommonCents said: Reddick would be the guy. I don’t know what the money would look like though. Caps are fungible, we need to add talent on D because the AFC East will be a dog fight this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 If he could ever stay healthy, he would be one of the best TEs in the league. I kinda love NE’s 2 TE set. It is going to be a brutality physical game when we play them and Cam was always good throwing to TEs. my one Bills regret is we never have a stud at TE. A real TE would kill it on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Serious question: Why do you so desperately try and hold on to being negative about everything? Is it your life? Are you just really not a fun guy to be around and terrible at parties? Is it Bills PTSD and you just need some weed or something to help cope? Is it Daddy issues and he was the reason you are a Bills fan so you’re pissed? I can honestly say that I’ve been here a long time and I can’t recall you saying a single positive thing about anything. Doesn’t mean you haven’t...just saying I can’t recall it happening because it’s apparently rarer than Haley’s comet. Scott while reading this 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Let's take a minute and hold a quick funeral for "The Patriot Way". Instead of a unique system of team building and cap management that made your franchise into a machine of selfless cogs that always wins...well that was all Tom Brady too. And the moment he left, Belichick didn't even pretend, he starting shoveling cash into the free agent market while pinning his hopes on a rookie or FA QB. And paying not quite Travis Kelce money for...Jonnu Smith? Yeah. Good luck sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Serious question: Why do you so desperately try and hold on to being negative about everything? Is it your life? Are you just really not a fun guy to be around and terrible at parties? Is it Bills PTSD and you just need some weed or something to help cope? Is it Daddy issues and he was the reason you are a Bills fan so you’re pissed? I can honestly say that I’ve been here a long time and I can’t recall you saying a single positive thing about anything. Doesn’t mean you haven’t...just saying I can’t recall it happening because it’s apparently rarer than Haley’s comet. He needs counseling.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 The pats been game planning for this before COVID hit They aren't just spending to spend. It's been reported Cam is the security blanket. They have a plan at QB. Cam is only there in case their plan doesn't work out. BB has proven plenty of times to get the best out of his players so why do fans keep bring up how good the TEs are or aren't, plus he's won plenty of SBs without Gronk. His first 3 SBs didnt have any HOF fame offensive players, Brady was coming into his prime by the 2 to 3rd SB. BB has made a career at finding ok players and turning them into effective pieces for them. And it's still only March. Just expect it to be a tough division to play in which should have some good AFC matches on deck. Bills won't be rolling over the Pats this coming season regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Serious question: Why do you so desperately try and hold on to being negative about everything? Is it your life? Are you just really not a fun guy to be around and terrible at parties? Is it Bills PTSD and you just need some weed or something to help cope? Is it Daddy issues and he was the reason you are a Bills fan so you’re pissed? I can honestly say that I’ve been here a long time and I can’t recall you saying a single positive thing about anything. Doesn’t mean you haven’t...just saying I can’t recall it happening because it’s apparently rarer than Haley’s comet. S Law is consistently negative, but he's not always wrong. I hope Beane's day 4 bargain signings will be enough to shore up our trenches and add some physicality to this D. The Pats are now built to grind us down and play ball control. Unless we load the box we can't stop the run and never could cover a good TE. NE's got two good TEs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: If he could ever stay healthy, he would be one of the best TEs in the league. I kinda love NE’s 2 TE set. It is going to be a brutality physical game when we play them and Cam was always good throwing to TEs. my one Bills regret is we never have a stud at TE. A real TE would kill it on this team. Im not enamored with them signing both TE’s to so much money. Dont get me wrong, both are good players, but I also think both are a bit over rated, and they just over paid. I mean when you add in backups, they will be around $26m+ invested just at TE of their cap. That’s a lot. I will say this though, if there is a team who knows how to utilize two TE’s best it’s NE, so I’m sure they will get solid production out of them. But that’s just a lot of money to invest in these two guys who are both now the 3rd and 4th highest paid TEs in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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