Malazan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, ColeB said: That would be dumb after he publicly stated he wants to stay. Yes, the most important criteria in evaluating whether to keep players is if they "want" to stay. Disclaimer: I really hope they keep Feliciano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I for one am glad that he staying this is talent that we drafted and we grew now some other team isn’t going to take advantage of that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Depending on the offers Williams gets it may or may not have made a difference anyway the bills might have signed who they could actually sign for the money they want to pay maybe Williams offers are ridiculous We don’t know yet we will find out soon I get this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: Dude your right, i said 7-8 mllion tops for Milano and after he and his agent seen the mass flooding of players being released he comes back for 11mllion. Too much for a average LB, has be been to the pro bowl yet? Worse in the NFL at covering TE'S .................. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The Chiefs aren't going to be the same. They won't be as deep. Their roster is weakening. And Mahomes deal doesn’t jump to $40M until 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: Dude your right, i said 7-8 mllion tops for Milano and after he and his agent seen the mass flooding of players being released he comes back for 11mllion. Too much for an average to good LB, has be been to the pro bowl yet? Bills LB'S were a worse in the NFL at covering TE'S Not according to this thread... seems like I’m crazy but I’m honestly shocked some have the stance they do seems obvious to me that protecting Allen should be priority one and improving the pass rush should be number 2 but I guess some would rather gambles Allen’s health and the offense and keep Milano 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Pipe down and chug your process juice Love the process.... but maybe not this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jerboski said: I’ve been pretty consistent priorities this off-season: protect the franchise (Williams) rush the passer (proven DE) again this isn’t hard It’s apparently really hard because you’re catching flack left and right... You have NOT been consistent. Your #1 priority is protecting the franchise... fine... but then you tell me the whole off-season is about catching the Chiefs and how bad our defense was... newsflash protecting our QB with a $10M contract for a RT isn’t fixing our defense... and it’s going to have the same effect on signing a pass rusher while also creating another hole on defense... We’re also not releasing our RT... he’s a free agent... there’s a difference. Edited March 11, 2021 by JGMcD2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jerboski said: Not according to this thread... seems like I’m crazy but I’m honestly shocked some have the stance they do seems obvious to me that protecting Allen should be priority one and improving the pass rush should be number 2 but I guess some would rather gambles Allen’s health and the offense and keep Milano Rofl. Wow. The panic is pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder what about Milano's lifestyle that makes buffalo a perfect fit ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: You don't understand. The current team couldn't beat the Chiefs twice! So you need to get rid of everyone on the team and replace them with other people who may or may not be as good! Let's wait for things to play out. As for the Chiefs currently they are down their tackles and starting center. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jerboski said: Great let’s release our pro bowl RT and trust a rookie there but make sure we keep Milano, he is much more valuable lol really good stuff here You are the one who wants to close the gap with the Chiefs.....Williams was horrible in that game.....and as much as he was solid....some great coach said “Give me a team of guys on the last year of their contract...I’ll win the championship”....my fear with Williams is he is a big contract from mediocrity.....Signing him likely likely much more costly than Milano and would have blocked out even more cap.... I am pretty sure I will go with GM of the year✌️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: Trust me on this one, too much and we could have upgraded the position with a couple million more. Milano would have not received an offer close to this on open market with the flood of players being released and low cap number of 183mll. I will be right again, just like when i said we should have drafted Metcalf or signing Murphy would be a total bust or our defense was not good enough to make to to the SUPER BOWL. End of the day we still don't have anyone to cover Kelce or other TE'S in this league which we were worse in the NFL at doing, paying Milano more is not changing the result of that. Right now we have one big play maker on defense and that is White, we needed to add at least one of two this offseason and that does not look like it will happen. 13-3 regular season record, division champs, One game from the super bowl, and some fans think Beane doesn’t know what he is doing, pretty amazing don’t you think... Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Awesome, awesome news! Draft well, develop, and reward your own. Milano is an excellent scheme fit and I would’ve hated seeing him shake his injury bug and become a stud elsewhere. He changes this defense when he’s healthy and running sideline to sideline. I expect them to grab at least two young pass rushers in the draft this year (if they don’t sign a pass rusher in FA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 How does this effect a Josh Allen extension? Tying up salary cap to resign an LB, when we also ought to extend the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Don Otreply said: 13-3 regular season record, division champs, One game from the super bowl, and some fans think Beane doesn’t know what he is doing, pretty amazing don’t you think... Go Bills!!! Defense had little to do with that, if i recall Kelce and Mahomes played catch with Milano in the middle. Sean said they needed to improve their pass rush, not sure how this would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Man. I went out for a couple hours and came back to this awesome news, not to mention a 17-page thread discussing it! I probably can't say much that hasn't already been said, but... I, too, figured he was a goner. The fact that he likely took less money to stay in Buffalo because he likes the culture and because he recognizes that the Bills are knocking on the doorstep of the Super Bowl is absolutely amazing. For all those who still say culture is overblown -- and I saw a few on this forum just today saying it -- here's another piece of evidence that you're wrong. Build a good program, build a consistent and successful program, and watch players take less money to be a part of it. Culture is real. So glad Milano is back. One less hole to fill this offseason. Go Beane! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Pleasant surprise. $11 mil is a big chunk of cap but we have some contracts expiring after this year. Now we don’t need to use a high draft pick on lb. I don’t believe his cap number has been announced, but it won’t be $11 million. They will give a bonus of $10-15 milliiin and back loads salaries. I’d guess his cap number for next year will come in at about $7 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: It’s apparently really hard because you’re catching flack left and right... You have NOT been consistent. Your #1 priority is protecting the franchise... fine... but then you tell me the whole off-season is about catching the Chiefs and how bad our defense was... newsflash protecting our QB with a $10M contract for a RT isn’t fixing our defense... and it’s have the same effect on signing a pass rusher while also creating another hole on defense... We’re also not releasing our RT... he’s a free agent... there’s a difference. Wow man ok let’s try again priority is to win the super bowl, To do so we need to overtake the chiefs... I thought this was a known but I’ll make sure I clearly articulate this To do this we need to keep the franchise healthy and rolling so why we wouldn’t prioritize keeping the RT who kept Allen upright seems weird to me, if his price has gone way up then okay I can be convinced we had to let him go but I don’t like the notion that we will just draft one and that it will all just be okay 2. Our defense struggled to get to the passer last year consistently, this defense got shredded in 2 of the 3 playoff games with Milano in the lineup so I’m not convinced at all resigning him for 11M properly addresses the defense and helps us achieve any of the goals I just mentioned with a down cap year IF milano’s contract prevents us from getting Williams or an elite pass rusher I think it was a bad decision is that not crystal clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, ColeB said: And Mahomes deal doesn’t jump to $40M until 2023. They're already feeling it. $20 million jump this year. Bills will feel that next year but at least the cap will jump $20 million with Allen's cap increases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I like keeping Milano around. Just hope this doesn't prevent them from signing a stud pass rusher.... Given they went after Watt aggressively, I think it's pretty clear they want to upgrade. It will be interesting to see what they do with Addison? Keep around until they have someone, or jettison him first? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Huge win for Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: Milano's cap hit this year is only 5 million. So don't count out D.Williams. I think Mongo or D.Williams is out but I wouldn't be shocked to see them push hard for D.Williams. You don't want to have to rely on a rookie. Tampa Bay did it. Just sayin...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiezzz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Surprised, yet so excited. Trust in Beaner!!! He has a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, davspo said: Spotrac projected a 13.8 mil average. hometown discount. Great show of respect from both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Defense had little to do with that, if i recall Kelce and Mahomes played catch with Milano in the middle. Sean said they needed to improve their pass rush, not sure how this would help Yes because the draft in free agency are over today Edited March 12, 2021 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Jauronimo said: A lot of these free agents sign big deals, get put in bad positions and wind up getting axed after under performing. Yes that's traditionally how it goes when the Bills sign a free agent. Not as much anymore, but the Sabres are working double time to make up for the shortfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, TH3 said: You are the one who wants to close the gap with the Chiefs.....Williams was horrible in that game.....and as much as he was solid....some great coach said “Give me a team of guys on the last year of their contract...I’ll win the championship”....my fear with Williams is he is a big contract from mediocrity.....Signing him likely likely much more costly than Milano and would have blocked out even more cap.... I am pretty sure I will go with GM of the year✌️ So let’s bounce Williams for one bad game when he played exceptional for the majority of the year and was pivotal to our offense and keeping Allen upright but let’s pay Milano who didn’t impact the chiefs game at all and the defense was down according to expectations for the majority of the year makes logical sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jerboski said: Wow man ok let’s try again priority is to win the super bowl, To do so we need to overtake the chiefs... I thought this was a known but I’ll make sure I clearly articulate this To do this we need to keep the franchise healthy and rolling so why we wouldn’t prioritize keeping the RT who kept Allen upright seems weird to me, if his price has gone way up then okay I can be convinced we had to let him go but I don’t like the notion that we will just draft one and that it will all just be okay 2. Our defense struggled to get to the passer last year consistently, this defense got shredded in 2 of the 3 playoff games with Milano in the lineup so I’m not convinced at all resigning him for 11M properly addresses the defense and helps us achieve any of the goals I just mentioned with a down cap year IF milano’s contract prevents us from getting Williams or an elite pass rusher I think it was a bad decision is that not crystal clear Not it’s not crystal clear because it’s inconsistent with your first two posts in this thread... you talked about impact on getting a pass rusher first and then followed up with a totally different post about pass rusher or OL... Its your fault not mine... try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: Way too much and very disappointing for a an very good to average player, GO AWAY! 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: LMAO, he signed for less because he had no offers coming on open market that would have been better. HEY Einstein! Free Agency hasn’t even begun. Did I encourage you to go away? Just in case GO AWAY! 1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said: Explain how that works.. free agency hasn’t started (open market) nor has the tampering period... are you saying with all your infinite wisdom that every team in the NFL egregiously tampers in free agency? Medication. He doesn’t take them. 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Defense had little to do with that, if i recall Kelce and Mahomes played catch with Milano in the middle. Sean said they needed to improve their pass rush, not sure how this would help I don’t know ND, just maybe not having a massive hole in your LB Corp might be helpful in some way or another..., anyway, Beane is not winging this, he has a plan A, B, and C, with multiple backup plans as needed, he is doing a damn good job, By the way how did that WRs team do that you wanted so badly? It’s never about one guy, it’s about how all the pieces fit and work together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Not it’s not crystal clear because it’s inconsistent with your first two posts in this thread... you talked about impact on getting a pass rusher first and then followed up with a totally different post about pass rusher or OL... Its your fault not mine... try again Dude it’s both hence two posts about it... and many more good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Wow I guess my hopes came true lol. Although I wonder if he didn’t see anything in the market that appealed him enough to leave I kind of wonder if the Bills were "crazy like a Fox" to extend Hyde, and he's been saying the same kind of things to teammates that he said on his interview. He can say of visiting FA "I bet you're sorry now you didn't visit Buffalo and now you're playing on a crappy team" but the message could be clear to FA too. Maybe Milano decided he could "make do" with an $11M yacht instead of playing for a poor or rebuilding team for $12-$13. 1 hour ago, Jerboski said: No chance of that... David is a much better player David took lower than market to stay with the Bucs 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Beane you mf'er "Big Baller Beane" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I kind of wonder if the Bills were "crazy like a Fox" to extend Hyde, and he's been saying the same kind of things to teammates that he said on his interview. He can say of visiting FA "I bet you're sorry now you didn't visit Buffalo and now you're playing on a crappy team" but the message could be clear to FA too. Maybe Milano decided he could "make do" with an $11M yacht instead of playing for a poor or rebuilding team for $12-$13. David took lower than market to stay with the Bucs "Big Baller Beane" Yep he wants to run it back with the same squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, Jerboski said: Dude it’s both hence two posts about it... and many more good grief You told me you were clear and consistent... you very clearly weren’t. Need I go back? Plenty of people agree with me and you’re garnering support from a notorious troll... tough hill to die on. 7 minutes ago, Jerboski said: So let’s bounce Williams for one bad game when he played exceptional for the majority of the year and was pivotal to our offense and keeping Allen upright but let’s pay Milano who didn’t impact the chiefs game at all and the defense was down according to expectations for the majority of the year makes logical sense Let’s bounce Milano for one bad game then too? The defense was down according to expectations WHEN Milano didn’t play lol. Second half of the season when he was entirely healthy they were a top 10 defense by DVOA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Beane looking at the "What are the chances we re-sign Milano?" thread from Tuesday afternoon on. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 This thread is 99% rational people saying: “wow! This is great to get s top end player back for cheaper than he could have gotten elsewhere. I hope we do more good things to improve our team” and 1% mouth breather crying that the sky is falling. 4 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, Jerboski said: Great let’s release our pro bowl RT and trust a rookie there but make sure we keep Milano, he is much more valuable lol really good stuff here There is nothing to release....he is a free agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, whatdrought said: This thread is 99% rational people saying: “wow! This is great to get s top end player back for cheaper than he could have gotten elsewhere. I hope we do more good things to improve our team” and 1% mouth breather crying that the sky is falling. Yeah but he’s just some Jerboni… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Medication. He doesn’t take them. That or he takes too much... it can be so hard to tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: I don’t believe his cap number has been announced, but it won’t be $11 million. They will give a bonus of $10-15 milliiin and back loads salaries. I’d guess his cap number for next year will come in at about $7 million. My guess would be a bit higher than that. Per Sal contract includes roster, playing time, workout, and pro-bowl bonuses. Amount Sal mentioned comes to $31.6M Probably $0.5M in per game roster bonus and $0.25M workout or something like that. $8M maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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