EDIT: All Chiefs OL leaving cause who wants to play for that garbage team anyways. Formerly: Chiefs cut both starting tackles.

[DCOrange]

3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Yup. He's coming off injury but was a dominant RT. 

If Williams doesn't work out , Schwartz would be a nice signing.  His brother Geoff is a Bills hater though. Always bad mouthing Buf on Twitter. He really pisses me off sometimes 

He does that to pretty much all fan bases lol. Saints have been his latest target, making fun of their cap hell and the fact that Taysom Hill is their 3rd highest paid player.

[Scott7975]

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

How’s that any different than the rest of the working world? Ages ago I was cut from the bank I worked at one week before the annual bonus, and two weeks before Christmas, and that was after exceeding all my scheduled performance goals..., life is like that...

The rest of the world you can work for 30 + years. These guys have a very limited window. And you can not fire people who were inured while working. There are workplace rules for that in almost every industry but NFL gets to play by different rules. 

I don’t want the MLB or NBA fully guaranteed model where you can't cut guys for poor play. But there should be more protection for guys that are cut while injured. Even something as simple as the team must still pay them but does not affect the cap until they can play, play for another team, or truly retire.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

23 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Mahommes about to find out what its like to play for the Bengals

Mahomes is outstanding but it's not talked about enough how great a situation he started in. It'll be interesting to see what happens without one of the best rosters around him.

 

Edited March 11, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[JerseyBills]

34 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

He does that to pretty much all fan bases lol. Saints have been his latest target, making fun of their cap hell and the fact that Taysom Hill is their 3rd highest paid player.

Ya true. 

Idk though, something about him rubs me the wrong way.  He's pretty arrogant 

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

There are a lot of names being projected around that spot like Learherwood, Eisenberg and Radunz that have some question marks in my view at the next level..:

 

If they were great tackle prospects they wouldn’t still

be there at 31..

 

We probably willl be having the same dilemma on who to pick at 30 if Williams walks...

 

Of course the top prospects will be gone but there are like 11 or 12 offensive tackles worthy of going in the first two rounds or thereabouts IMO. Best tackle class I have ever evaluated depth wise. Not as good at the top end as Wirfs, Becton and Wills last year though.

[Aussie Joe]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Of course the top prospects will be gone but there are like 11 or 12 offensive tackles worthy of going in the first two rounds or thereabouts IMO. Best tackle class I have ever evaluated depth wise. Not as good at the top end as Wirfs, Becton and Wills last year though.

11 or 12? That would surprise me..

 

I hope you are right though because they will be looking for one I think... 

 

Hope their eye has improved since  their last swing at T Cody Ford , who I recall you liked as our long term RT when they drafted him? I liked the pick at the time too...

[Freddie's Dead]

GIT 'R' DUNNNN!!!!!!!

[Don Otreply]

44 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

The rest of the world you can work for 30 + years. These guys have a very limited window. And you can not fire people who were inured while working. There are workplace rules for that in almost every industry but NFL gets to play by different rules. 

I don’t want the MLB or NBA fully guaranteed model where you can't cut guys for poor play. But there should be more protection for guys that are cut while injured. Even something as simple as the team must still pay them but does not affect the cap until they can play, play for another team, or truly retire.

Those guys are allowed to find employment after playing football ya know, 😁 it’s no different than anyone else having to retrain themselves to be employable, they are not in a protected class, 👍 I don’t understand why so many fans think these guys should not have to get a damn job after there playing time is up, if they didn’t earn a lot or pissed away what they did earn, it’s kinda comical that folk think that way. 

 

And I am quite certain that the team followed the rules  that apply when they were cut, otherwise it would cost the team even more money...because the players union would go berserk otherwise. Much ado over nothing is what I’m thinking. 
 

Go Bills!!!
 

 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

11 or 12? That would surprise me..

 

I hope you are right though because they will be looking for one I think... 

 

Hope their eye has improved since  their last swing at T Cody Ford , who I recall you liked as our long term RT when they drafted him? I liked the pick at the time too...

 

Yea. It is that good of a tackle group. So I liked Cody but I had him as my top guard that year. 

[H2o]

Now they're saying the starting C is likely to leave in FA too.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/11/report-chiefs-center-austin-reiter-likely-to-leave-in-free-agency/

 

Quote

Kansas City cut both starting offensive tackles, Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz, today, and starting center Austin Reiter is expected to leave Kansas City in free agency, Tom Pelissero of NFL Network reports.

 

Poor Patty next year after every snap

 

Edited March 11, 2021 by H2o

[Reed83HOF]

4 minutes ago, H2o said:

Now they're saying the starting C is likely to leave in FA too.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/11/report-chiefs-center-austin-reiter-likely-to-leave-in-free-agency/

 

 

Poor Patty next year after every snap

 

@whatdrought update your title so we don't have another thread started (if there isn't already) 🤣

[TheFunPolice]

Worked out just fine without them in the Super Bowl, although I wonder how much Reid's son threw them off in that game as well. 

 

It seemed like there was none of the creativity we were used to, just snap the ball, Mahomes runs around like crazy, and the WR or TE drops the ball when it hits him in the face or hands. 

[H2o]

1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

@whatdrought update your title so we don't have another thread started (if there isn't already) 🤣

"Pat Mahomes Looks To Break Forrest Gump's Record In 2021 After OL Disassembled"

 

[HappyDays]

The path to beating the Chiefs next year is definitely easier as of right now. Just need to have a serviceable pass rush that can take advantage of their downgrades.

 

Austin Reiter didn't allow a single sack last year.

[Doc]

They're going to need a whole new OL next year.

[whatdrought]

4 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Media: “oh my gahhd did you see how majestic he looked taking that 30 yard sack? He’s so glorious. I can’t believe I get to watch this generational talent.”

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Media: “oh my gahhd did you see how majestic he looked taking that 30 yard sack? He’s so glorious. I can’t believe I get to watch this generational talent.”

 

It was a generational sack.  Literally.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Glass houses my fellow fans...

 

Bills did the same thing two years ago with 4 of 5 new starters on the line.

Bills will be in the similar cap situation when Allen's contract kicks in. 

KC is just in even worse shape because of the one year drop in the cap.

[MJS]

11 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Glass houses my fellow fans...

 

Bills did the same thing two years ago with 4 of 5 new starters on the line.

Bills will be in the similar cap situation when Allen's contract kicks in. 

KC is just in even worse shape because of the one year drop in the cap.

Uh, our oline sucked. The Chiefs had a good oline.

[Royale with Cheese]

I wonder if KC takes a step back offensively?

 
Not saying they’ll be stopped but if Mahomes is running for his life all season long....maybe the offense is just good and not scary anymore.

[davefan66]

I’m sure they have a plan on replacing these guys.  Can’t imagine them jettisoning two starting tackles without a plan.  I don’t expect them to miss the playoffs next season because of these moves.

 

Now, if they are planning on replacing with internal candidates...then that would be a problem.  Super bowl showed depth problems at o-line for them.
 

 

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 minute ago, davefan66 said:

I’m sure they have a plan on replacing these guys.  Can’t imagine them jettisoning two starting tackles without a plan.  I don’t expect them to miss the playoffs next season because of these moves.

 

Now, if they are planning on replacing with internal candidates...then that would be a problem.  Super bowl showed depth problems at o-line for them.
 

 

Hope we draft the RT they want in round one. 

[Malazan]

THE CHIEFS AREN'T CLOSING THE GAP ON TAMPA BAY WITH THIS!

[Doc]

1 minute ago, davefan66 said:

I’m sure they have a plan on replacing these guys.  Can’t imagine them jettisoning two starting tackles without a plan.  I don’t expect them to miss the playoffs next season because of these moves.

 

Now, if they are planning on replacing with internal candidates...then that would be a problem.  Super bowl showed depth problems at o-line for them.

 

Not sure what plan they could have outside of in-house candidates.  To get OT's comparable to what they lost will take tons of cash, and drafting at 31 in each round makes it harder to get sure things.

[dave mcbride]

21 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I wonder if KC takes a step back offensively?

 
Not saying they’ll be stopped but if Mahomes is running for his life all season long....maybe the offense is just good and not scary anymore.

Fisher was going into the last year of his contract and is going to miss the season! This story is being overinterpreted. As i said earlier, this combined with a big guy with a bad back = easy decision.

[Reed83HOF]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Fisher was going into the last year of his contract and is going to miss the season! This story is being overinterpreted. As i said earlier, this combined with a big guy with a bad back = easy decision.

Lots of interior fa linemen are available, I am sure they can do a tiny cap hit this year and pushover money forward and put together a good ol. They have a good gm and hc. I do hope they end up taking a step back, but teams can get creative and kc is that type of team who will

[whatdrought]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Glass houses my fellow fans...

 

Bills did the same thing two years ago with 4 of 5 new starters on the line.

Bills will be in the similar cap situation when Allen's contract kicks in. 

KC is just in even worse shape because of the one year drop in the cap.

 

3 things:

 

1- Comparing getting rid of guys who are now out of the league with getting rid of an All-Pro tackle and a former first overall pick who is decent is just pointless. 
 

2- Mahomes’ new contract hasn’t kicked in yet.

 

3- I didn’t actually make the joke to slam the for this - the edited title is mostly a joke - but just to point out what they did. I actually think both moves make sense. Schwartz has a career threatening injury and Fischer isn’t worth the price tag. That being said, they will suffer for this- it isn’t easy replacing tackles, as we all know. 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Not sure what plan they could have outside of in-house candidates.  To get OT's comparable to what they lost will take tons of cash, and drafting at 31 in each round makes it harder to get sure things.

 

 

Fisher is old, beat up, never that great and coming off a major injury.  Schwartz with a shakey back.  They went 14-2 with him only appearing in 6 games.

 

It's interesting so many here are saying that they the Chiefs are doomed/crazy/etc to get rid of these 2, using the SB loss as a reference.  Yet, soon after watching the snuff film that was the AFCC game, who here was saying:  "yeah but what will they ever do without Schwartz and Fisher??"...

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Both expected moved. Fisher has never been more than average, is overpaid and now is unlikely to be healthy next year anyway having ruptured his achillies in the AFCCG. Schwartz has been an outstanding RT but he is 32 and highly paid and coming off a season out hurt. 

 

As I said in the shoutbox they have a couple of in-house options at right tackle. Lucas Niang who they drafted out of TCU last year in the 3rd who was a covid opt out this past season and then Yasir Durant out of Missouri who I thought was draftable and went undrafted last April and the Chiefs picked up as an UDFA. He made the roster and started week 17, although I believe he played guard in that game. 

 

I think at LT their answer likely comes at pick #31.... lucky for them this is a very strong OT class. 

 

In that case, nothing would make me happier than if the Bills draft whoever it is they want at pick #30

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Glass houses my fellow fans...

 

Bills did the same thing two years ago with 4 of 5 new starters on the line.

Bills will be in the similar cap situation when Allen's contract kicks in. 

KC is just in even worse shape because of the one year drop in the cap.

Major difference was the Bills had virtually no O line talent to speak of two seasons ago, and then upgraded it, KC is doing the reverse of what the Bills did... 
 

That and I suspect Josh Allen won’t cut his nose off to spite his face, contract wise, he comes off as being more sensible, jmo. 

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I wonder if KC takes a step back offensively?

 
Not saying they’ll be stopped but if Mahomes is running for his life all season long....maybe the offense is just good and not scary anymore.

They may lose Sammy Watkins which could also contribute to less offense.

[Locomark]

9 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

There are a lot of names being projected around that spot like Learherwood, Eisenberg and Radunz that have some question marks in my view at the next level..:

 

If they were great tackle prospects they wouldn’t still

be there at 31..

 

We probably willl be having the same dilemma on who to pick at 30 if Williams walks...

There is no “if Williams walks” ... he is going to get $12 or more and we can’t pay that. He’s gone. 

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, Locomark said:

There is no “if Williams walks” ... he is going to get $12 or more and we can’t pay that. He’s gone. 

 

100 people here said Milano was leaving too

[Locomark]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

 

100 people here said Milano was leaving too

I never did. Milano is a niche role that is hard to find. We already have big $ invested in LT so it stands to reason we will want a cheaper RT to balance the $ on Oline $. They are more likely to pay an established guard, draft a RT and then if the draftee isn’t good enough you have Cody as a backup plan. It’s cheaper. 

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, Locomark said:

I never did. Milano is a niche role that is hard to find. We already have big $ invested in LT so it stands to reason we will want a cheaper RT to balance the $ on Oline $. They are more likely to pay an established guard, draft a RT and then if the draftee isn’t good enough you have Cody as a backup plan. It’s cheaper. 

 

Milano decided to stay for less money then he could have got on the open market.. 

 

We dont know whether Williams will consider doing the same... Its probably unlikely as the clock is ticking but you are taking educated guesses like everybody else here...

 

Edited March 12, 2021 by Aussie Joe

[Doc]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Fisher is old, beat up, never that great and coming off a major injury.  Schwartz with a shakey back.  They went 14-2 with him only appearing in 6 games.

 

It's interesting so many here are saying that they the Chiefs are doomed/crazy/etc to get rid of these 2, using the SB loss as a reference.  Yet, soon after watching the snuff film that was the AFCC game, who here was saying:  "yeah but what will they ever do without Schwartz and Fisher??"...

 

True, Fisher wasn't going to play this coming year, but the larger point is he played almost all of the season and was a Pro Bowl LT.  Schwartz though hadn't missed a game until this past season and as far as I know, isn't thinking of retiring.  And his replacement (Remmers) will likely leave in FA.  That's their top-3 OTs.

 

That SB was a darker snuff film (oh how I wish the Bills had faced that Chefs OL!) and the Chefs will likely be losing 2 more starters from that MASH unit: (the aforementioned) Remmers and Reiter.  Will they be able to replace them all?

Edited March 12, 2021 by Doc

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Fisher was going into the last year of his contract and is going to miss the season! This story is being overinterpreted. As i said earlier, this combined with a big guy with a bad back = easy decision.

 

Losing 3 o-line starters is a big deal no matter how you slice it. Reiter is the underrated part of this - he didn't give up a single sack all of last season. I don't care how good the rest of the offense is, if you don't have good pass protection your ceiling is capped. Look at Luck or Watson or Wilson. The best thing Beane has done since drafting Allen is building him a pocket.

 

As a reminder here's what Mahomes had to do in the Super Bowl to get his passes of:

 

 

He ran 497 yards total behind the line of scrimmage before throwing the ball or taking a sack. Not every team has the Buccaneers pass rush but it's going to be difficult to sustain an elite offense with that level of pass protection.

[JMF2006]

Vague title needs third change

[stevewin]

They want to play for a QB that doesn't have accuracy issues