LyndonvilleBill Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I keep going back and forth. My fan brain says go for it and sign him, but my normal brain says don't. My common sense says they will keep what they have (Addison, AJ, Hughes, Love, Cox, Johnson),draft one early and use the savings to sign our own. I am so confused. Might have to schedule a DR. For this one... Thank Goodness I have all of you...😱 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said: think they fudged the article with saying the Bills are a front runner. Fowler never reported that He said it on radio last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 This thread is getting all moldy now... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This thread is getting all moldy now... I'm mostly getting tired of waiting. I'll pop in and out of this thread to see if there's any news headlines. The JJ sweepstakes is starting to get pretty tired for me, even if I know it's going to be a little while longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He said it on radio last week sorry meant to say THE front runner, not a front runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This thread is getting all moldy now... 16 minutes ago, delirious said: I'm mostly getting tired of waiting. I'll pop in and out of this thread to see if there's any news headlines. The JJ sweepstakes is starting to get pretty tired for me, even if I know it's going to be a little while longer. My fingers after F5 since the news Watt was released... I'm now having to use another unit and let's just say I should have taken it easy upon hearing the news Watt was interested in us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: This thread is getting all moldy now... It’s like that thing you find in the back of the fridge a month later and it’s all fuzzy but you can’t just throw it away cause there’s nothing else in there and you’re hungry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: It’s like that thing you find in the back of the fridge a month later and it’s all fuzzy but you can’t just throw it away cause there’s nothing else in there and you’re hungry... Would you drink a whole curdled milk container if it meant JJ Watt would sign with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 48 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: My fingers after F5 since the news Watt was released... I'm now having to use another unit and let's just say I should have taken it easy upon hearing the news Watt was interested in us You can always amputate and not miss a beat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: This thread is getting all moldy now... How else are you supposed to make bleu cheese? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) JJ Watt has narrowed his List of teams, Bills emerging as favorite https://theredzone.org/Blog-Description/EntryId/14060/JJ-Watt-has-narrowed-his-List-of-teams--Bills-emerging-as-favorite Edited March 1, 2021 by Frez 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, 4_kidd_4 said: How else are you supposed to make bleu cheese? Make bleu cheese BLUE again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Frez said: JJ Watt has narrowed his List of teams, Bills emerging as favorite https://theredzone.org/Blog-Description/EntryId/14060/JJ-Watt-has-narrowed-his-List-of-teams--Bills-emerging-as-favorite This seems like a pretty big deal if true. I’m surprised it’s not causing a bit more of a ruckus on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This seems like a pretty big deal if true. I’m surprised it’s not causing a bit more of a ruckus on here. This report with quotes from the same interview seems to indicate that he thinks Green Bay is actually the front runner. I see nothing in what he said to imply that it's the Bills. Fowler is probably just speculating anyway so I wouldn't put much stock into it. https://247sports.com/Article/JJ-Watt-Packers-perfect-fit-NFL-free-agency-signing-timeline-Bills-Titans-Texans-Wisconsin-161626432/ Edited March 1, 2021 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, vincec said: This report with quotes from the same interview seems to indicate that he thinks Green Bay is actually the front runner. I see nothing in what he said to imply that it's the Bills. Fowler is probably just speculating anyway so I wouldn't put much stock into it. https://247sports.com/Article/JJ-Watt-Packers-perfect-fit-NFL-free-agency-signing-timeline-Bills-Titans-Texans-Wisconsin-161626432/ Green Bay has no cap room at all. No way JJ takes the vet min, yeah he wants to win but he also wants some money as well. Plus there’s too many egos in Green Bay starting with the HC butting heads with Rodgers etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 If Watt doesn’t pick Green Bay, it won’t have anything to do with the salary cap. They could easily make it work if they want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This seems like a pretty big deal if true. I’m surprised it’s not causing a bit more of a ruckus on here. It’s the same comments that have been already been recycled a lot.. Edited March 1, 2021 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: If Watt doesn’t pick Green Bay, it won’t have anything to do with the salary cap. They could easily make it work if they want it to. I don’t see how. First off Rodgers would have to take a massive restructuring to his contract, plus Green Bay has always been known to be cheap when it comes to Free Agency, they don’t like to spend money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I don’t see how. First off Rodgers would have to take a massive restructuring to his contract, plus Green Bay has always been known to be cheap when it comes to Free Agency, they don’t like to spend money. sure there is. Give Watt a 3 year deal, small base salary. Upfront signing bonus in year 1 . Bam low salary cap number , big signing bonus, easily cuttable year 2 and 3. Minimal impact on this years salary cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I don’t see how. First off Rodgers would have to take a massive restructuring to his contract, plus Green Bay has always been known to be cheap when it comes to Free Agency, they don’t like to spend money. $8m over the cap isn’t much. Could easily convert Rodgers salary and roster bonus to a signing bonus. He’s probably due a new contract coming off an MVP year anyway. Maybe that’s what Watt’s waiting on. Can’t see Watt going to Green Bay unless Rodgers is a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 6 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: He’s not getting that lol. He’s got high hopes if he thinks he’s getting 20 million. But Leonard is younger and his injury history isn’t as bad as Watt’s is. But again we’re gonna have to see what happens So you think we should sign Williams because he’ll be cheaper than Watt? Very interesting take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) Edited March 1, 2021 by Process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 6 hours ago, HOUSE said: This thread is getting all moldy now... Moldy....what has mold in it...BLUE CHEESE! Blue cheese is associated with Wings...Buffalo Wings...you do the math! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 5 hours ago, The Wiz said: You can always amputate and not miss a beat. @Mr. WEOlet's schedule a date for my implant! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI Bills Fan Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This seems like a pretty big deal if true. I’m surprised it’s not causing a bit more of a ruckus on here. I would agree, if the article was suggesting that the Bills had emerged as THE favorite. The title is very misleading however and should have read 'Bills emerging as one of the favorites'. There're really no new news in that article. Maybe the picture becomes clearer toward the end of this week. Edited March 1, 2021 by NI Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: sure there is. Give Watt a 3 year deal, small base salary. Upfront signing bonus in year 1 . Bam low salary cap number , big signing bonus, easily cuttable year 2 and 3. Minimal impact on this years salary cap The thing is, Watt has to agree to the contract as well. I know it happens to a lot of guys already under contract, but I don't think ribs of guys at the tail end of their careers are going to sign up for deals that make them very easily cuttable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, cle23 said: The thing is, Watt has to agree to the contract as well. I know it happens to a lot of guys already under contract, but I don't think ribs of guys at the tail end of their careers are going to sign up for deals that make them very easily cuttable. you would if it’s more than the 17.5 mill you were gonna get . Let’s say if you get a 3 year deal at “36 “ million. AAV of 12 a year. Okay year 1 is 4 million base pay with upfront signing bonus of 16 million. That’s 20 mill that dude banks guaranteed. Then spread that other 16 million over the next two. It’s pretty fair for all above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 9 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: $8m over the cap isn’t much. Could easily convert Rodgers salary and roster bonus to a signing bonus. He’s probably due a new contract coming off an MVP year anyway. Maybe that’s what Watt’s waiting on. Can’t see Watt going to Green Bay unless Rodgers is a happy camper. Real question, is Rodgers ever happy? He looks like a grumpy curmudgeon 99% of the time. I actually think this past season was entirely fueled by him being pissed off about Jordan Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: It’s the same comments that have been already been recycled a lot.. Agreed. It's actually an interesting example of how random noise is built into something that sounds true and then begins to shape the beliefs of many people. One of these days there will be a real report from a person with real, solid information, and then we'll know where Watt likely is headed. Right now, there's nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 11 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: If Watt doesn’t pick Green Bay, it won’t have anything to do with the salary cap. They could easily make it work if they want it to. I don’t know if it will be his choice to not pick them. They are going to let their young 1st team all pro center walk but have Money for JJ? Aaron would have a fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 10 hours ago, NewEra said: So you think we should sign Williams because he’ll be cheaper than Watt? Very interesting take Yes let’s pay 16 million for a vet who at this point will be a rotational player and that’s at the end of his career with a major injury history. That seems really smart, don’t get me wrong I like JJ Watt and once upon a time he was an elite player and if we had the opportunity I would’ve definitely would’ve loved to have seen us go after him. But he’s fading and is not the same player he used to be. At this point Buffalo would be paying a hefty price for a name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Yes let’s pay 16 million for a vet who at this point will be a rotational player and that’s at the end of his career with a major injury history. That seems really smart, don’t get me wrong I like JJ Watt and once upon a time he was an elite player and if we had the opportunity I would’ve definitely would’ve loved to have seen us go after him. But he’s fading and is not the same player he used to be. At this point Buffalo would be paying a hefty price for a name. He played over 90 percent of Houston's defensive snaps last season, which I think was the highest rate for any d-lineman in the league. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Yes let’s pay 16 million for a vet who at this point will be a rotational player and that’s at the end of his career with a major injury history. That seems really smart, don’t get me wrong I like JJ Watt and once upon a time he was an elite player and if we had the opportunity I would’ve definitely would’ve loved to have seen us go after him. But he’s fading and is not the same player he used to be. At this point Buffalo would be paying a hefty price for a name. so, onto the question that I asked and you clearly avoided: Do you really think we should sign Leonard Williams because he’ll be cheaper than JJ watt? He’s no more of a rotational player than Williams would be or any DE we sign for that matter. No DE in the league plays 100% snaps. if he wasn’t fading and was the player that he used to be, his price range would be 22M-25M a year.....that’s why paying him 12-15 isn’t an over pay. We’d likely sign him to a 1-2 year contract. the guy has hasn’t missed a game in 2 of the last 3 seasons. You’re looking at his sack numbers last season, thinking he isn’t good.....when he was 15th in pass rush win rate.....while being double teamed more than any DE in the league. He’s still an impact player and will cost LESS than Leonard Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He played over 90 percent of Houston's defensive snaps last season, which I think was the highest rate for any d-lineman in the league. Yes but he only accumulated 5 total sacks the whole year. He’s definitely lost some steps. And that was his first year playing 16 total games in how long? 1 minute ago, NewEra said: so, onto the question that I asked and you clearly avoided: Do you really think we should sign Leonard Williams because he’ll be cheaper than JJ watt? He’s no more of a rotational player than Williams would be or any DE we sign for that matter. No DE in the league plays 100% snaps. if he wasn’t fading and was the player that he used to be, his price range would be 22M-25M a year.....that’s why paying him 12-15 isn’t an over pay. We’d likely sign him to a 1-2 year contract. the guy has hasn’t missed a game in 2 of the last 3 seasons. You’re looking at his sack numbers last season, thinking he isn’t good.....when he was 15th in pass rush win rate.....while being double teamed more than any DE in the league. He’s still an impact player and will cost LESS than Leonard Williams Yes I do think we should pay Williams because he’s younger and is less of a health/injury risk. Watt is not worth the money he wants now. Maybe 6-7 years ago absolutely he’d be worth it but he’s not worth it now. And signing JJ means a player for the short haul. We need a player at that position for the long haul and JJ is not that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 18 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Just go get Leonard Williams, much cheaper and he’s still young. Paying 15-16 million for an aging veteran who at this point would be a rotational player is completely asinine. I saw him a few times last year and he definitely lost a couple steps. But then again it’s not our money and I trust in Beane 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Yes but he only accumulated 5 total sacks the whole year. He’s definitely lost some steps. And that was his first year playing 16 total games in how long? Yes I do think we should pay Williams because he’s younger and is less of a health/injury risk. Watt is not worth the money he wants now. Maybe 6-7 years ago absolutely he’d be worth it but he’s not worth it now. And signing JJ means a player for the short haul. We need a player at that position for the long haul and JJ is not that. So.....to answer my question, which you clearly avoided again..... Do you really think we should sign Leonard Williams because he’ll be much cheaper than JJ watt? we don’t NEED a DE long term. We NEED a Lombardi. We can sign watt and still add a long term DE in the next year or two. We need to add a beastly pass rusher and I don’t see why age has anything to do with it. Watt will be cheaper than Williams. Possibly much cheaper. Williams is trying to secure he and his families future....watt has already done that and is just trying to win his first title.....just like us. My point in quoting you was to see if you really thought Williams would be “much cheaper” than Watt. You replied twice and never answers it. Maybe this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Yes but he only accumulated 5 total sacks the whole year. He’s definitely lost some steps. And that was his first year playing 16 total games in how long? Yes I do think we should pay Williams because he’s younger and is less of a health/injury risk. Watt is not worth the money he wants now. Maybe 6-7 years ago absolutely he’d be worth it but he’s not worth it now. And signing JJ means a player for the short haul. We need a player at that position for the long haul and JJ is not that. He was the most double-teamed player in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Looks like Arizona! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 going to Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Good fit for him. Basically Houston circa 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Ok. Let’s go get Von Miller and/or Bud Dupree. Watt is washed up anyways.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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