NewEra Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: We can always re-write history, I guess. If last night's game was a close one, sure, we could speculate that the Bills may have had a win. But it wasn't. It was a complete manhandling. Josh in the second half of the Chiefs game was facing serial jailbreaks, just like Mahomes (I don't but that Mahomes is inferior at going through progressions under duress) and the result was similar. The Bills would have had no answer for Devon White, JPP, and Shaq Barrett---- just like the Chiefs. You think Feliciano, Williams, etc got slapped around by the Chiefs front 7?? Imagine how the Bucs would have their way with them... The packers were pretty close to beating the champs. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: The packers were pretty close to beating the champs. 😂 Loll the bucs have looked bad frequently this whole well the chiefs beat us and they beat the chiefs so they would've killed us argument may or may not be valid. I guess we'll have a chance to prove it next year. I feel a lot better about this supposed chiefs dynasty never materializing last night was an absolute failure from top to bottom from them. They have been skating by on raw talent alone and the bucs came in and punched them in the mouth and andy Reid just completely imploded. I feel bad for mahomes though they did not help him out at all. They couldve hung around in that game and maybe given themselves a chance but they coached themselves right out of the game Edited February 8, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Loll the bucs have looked bad frequently this whole well the chiefs beat us and they beat the chiefs so they would've killed us argument may or may not be valid. I guess we'll have a chance to prove it next year. I feel a lot better about this supposed chiefs dynasty never materializing last night was an absolute failure from top to bottom from them. They have been skating by on raw talent alone and the bucs came in and punched them in the mouth and andy Reid just completely imploded. I feel bad for mahomes though they did not help him out at all. I feel bad for Rodgers. We was closer to a championship team this year than Mahomes was. They may have won if lafleur wasn’t an idiot. Still can’t believe he gave the ball to Brady and trusted his defense to win the game for them. And then for lafleur to fire Petine after the fact....just terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Josh took a couple big sacks that were probably avoidable in hindsight but daboll made a lot of adjustments at halftime moving to a more short to intermediate passing game and getting yeldon involved...the chiefs just let mahomes get butchered all night. Also Andy Reid called the worst timeout in history lol not to mention we max protect a lot by design...the chiefs were forced into that situation which really eliminates 75% of their playbook. Allowing defensive holding is absolutely devastating to our offense so if thats going to continue in the playoffs going forward we will have to make some changes Run it. They went with 6 DBs against our 11 personnel - Should be able to get some gains there. They doubled digs and bease depending on the situation. I think brown and davis both being banged up prevented them from ever really considering going with a 2 high look against us unless it was 3rd and forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dneveu said: Run it. They went with 6 DBs against our 11 personnel - Should be able to get some gains there. They doubled digs and bease depending on the situation. I think brown and davis both being banged up prevented them from ever really considering going with a 2 high look against us unless it was 3rd and forever. Yea I think offensive coordinators are too stubborn in general...daboll made adjustments in that chiefs game it was just too late. I feel like after halftime we ripped off a few nice runs and went to a more intermediate passing game until we went down 3 scores and really couldn't anymore. We like to max protect and run those crossing routes and when the dbs are being handsy theres just not that many options to make a play. The chiefs looked like they went down without making any adjustments last night and they just let mahomes get absolutely abused. The dude was taking 47 step drops after awhile lol Edited February 8, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) I really hope McD and Beane really looked close at Tampa last night. I said in my posts before the loss to KC that we had to have a running game to win vs KC. Guess what we did not run or even try and utilize our RB's at all, and just less than 10 touches is a joke. Our O-game plan sucked. I also said that the Bills were a enigma because we were the only team in the 2020 playoffs to get out rushed in every single playoff game and make it to the Conf Champ Game. Buffalo being so one sided on passing with no rushing game and expecting to beat the Buc's in a SB matchup is a complete fantasy... meaning Dream-on.... We had zero chance beating the Buc's the way they played last night. None at all. We have way to much work to do on our D to compete at the level Tampa's D played at last night. Our entire LB core is crap compared to Tampa's and if you could not see that in this game last night, then you need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Again I mentioned this in another of of my post about Edmunds vs the Buc's LB's. This is why our D line is Meh especially with what we paid for this D-Front 4. Our LB's are only just average at best, even Milano can't be mentioned as as elite LB, He really is above average at best and injury prone. He is not in the same league as Devin White, that's for damn sure. We need to stop offering average D-line players premium pay upgrades for a spot on the Defensive line, it has not worked!! Not having the ability to rush or knockdown opposing QB's with any level of consistency has been even bigger liability to this team, this coming season this needs to be addressed. We would have gotten embarrassed in the SB playing the Buc's. Like the we did when we played Dallas and lost 52-17. Like Steven A said it was a "Beat Down!!" Sorry being a die hard Bill's fan since the 1970's I am actually glad we lost in the AFC Championship game, I remember that Dallas SB game and it was not a good feeling after that ass whooping back then. The Bills pass only model of winning was not sustainable and not a SB winning formula period. Edited February 8, 2021 by Toyo321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, WideNine said: The pressure does not always have to come from the ends. It is pressure up the middle that prevents QBs from having a clean pocket or anywhere to step up. Where do they go? They try to escape right or left into the arms of the DE's who really do not have to beat their man, just be in position to clean up. I truly believe Josh with his desire to never give up on a play would have taken a few 30 yard sacks against the Tampa defense because they could have played dime against us all game long with our limp running attack and he would have had no where to go with the ball. 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Why do you think the Bills O-line would hold up to a better D in the Bucs, when they couldn't handle the Chiefs pass rush? With Josh running for his life (like Mahomes), how does he exploit the Bucs secondary? 2 weeks ago, the consensus here was what we all saw--the better team won. Yesterday, that team got utterly destroyed by an even better team. I really believe each week is about matchups. You can say that because the chiefs generated a ton of interior pressure, the Bucs would. Why? We were able to figure out a way to stop the Steelers’ interior pressure, and I would argue that the Steelers have a much better interior defensive front than both the chiefs and Bucs. We were also able to handle the Rams, who also create much better interior pressure. it’s about week to week matchups and gameplans. I bet if we played the chiefs tomorrow, the Bills would double team Jones every time and add a TE in line, and suddenly that unstoppable chiefs D-line looks a lot less fierce. I am not saying we would have beaten the Bucs. But I guarantee you we would have protected and blocked that D-line much much better than the chiefs, who had 3 guys out there on their oline in the super bowl who probably wouldn’t even make our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I really believe each week is about matchups. You can say that because the chiefs generated a ton of interior pressure, the Bucs would. Why? We were able to figure out a way to stop the Steelers’ interior pressure, and I would argue that the Steelers have a much better interior defensive front than both the chiefs and Bucs. We were also able to handle the Rams, who also create much better interior pressure. it’s about week to week matchups and gameplans. I bet if we played the chiefs tomorrow, the Bills would double team Jones every time and add a TE in line, and suddenly that unstoppable chiefs D-line looks a lot less fierce. I am not saying we would have beaten the Bucs. But I guarantee you we would have protected and blocked that D-line much much better than the chiefs, who had 3 guys out there on their oline in the super bowl who probably wouldn’t even make our roster. They had that opportunity 2 weeks ago. That Bucs D wasn't the Steelers or Rams---It was better, and definitely better than the Chiefs D. That could not have been more obvious last night. They pressured Mahomes 52% of his drop backs, and only blitzed 5% of the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They had that opportunity 2 weeks ago. That Bucs D wasn't the Steelers or Rams---It was better, and definitely better than the Chiefs D. That could not have been more obvious last night. They pressured Mahomes 52% of his drop backs, and only blitzed 5% of the plays. the Bucs D looked much better because they were going against JV olinemen. That defense is good— but you make it sound like they are the 1986 bears. We were one of the best 4 teams in the league. They weren’t going to do that to our o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 We will definitely know next year at least once if the Bills can beat the Bucs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Come on man. They played the Chiefs twice and got beaten soundly both times. They had every opportunity to make that their game plan. that’s on the coaches more than anything else. The gameplan was there and obvious. As many of us said in the game day thread, run, screens, dump offs. The chiefs were giving us those. Our offense refused to take them. What did the Bucs do on offense yesterday? Dump-downs, screens, 2-TE sets, play action, and some decent running. we have the talent to compete and beat any of these teams. the gameplan needed to be better. They got out-coached; it happens. But It’s like people here forgot about the entire season because they are only focusing on the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I think we would have lost to the Bucs, but I honestly believe we would have done better on offense if we had the same lineup as against the Chiefs, maybe even scoring 16-19 instead of 9. For whatever reason the Chiefs seriously laid an egg, probably due to the loss of both their tackles being too much to overcome. However, I don't see us having done better on defense, and possibly even worse, than KC did; so no, I do not think we would have won... more like 38-16 which is a bad beatdown. We need improvement on both lines and a better running game to compete, and either a new TE or to use our TE more effectively. 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Why do you think the Bills O-line would hold up to a better D in the Bucs, when they couldn't handle the Chiefs pass rush? With Josh running for his life (like Mahomes), how does he exploit the Bucs secondary? 2 weeks ago, the consensus here was what we all saw--the better team won. Yesterday, that team got utterly destroyed by an even better team. The KC team we played, in my opinion, wasn't the same team that played in the SB. They lost a key OT, and they also just simply played below their normal level - it wasn't all Tampa Bay. Sometimes teams play differently week to week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 No. No way. Brady would have stepped on us and squashed us like a cockroach. I'm very sorry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Success said: Thinking about it, our SB chances probably ended w/ something that doesn't get talked about too much - Beasley breaking his fibula. With a fully healthy Diggs & Beasley, we could probably overcome an 80% Brown & Davis against anyone. It would be close, but I think our O would still move. With Beasley struggling and no elite TE to throw to, we were too easy to defend. It's still crazy to think that our final playoff game converged with our top 4 wrs all injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 It depends. Bills OL would likely have done better than the KC makeshift unit. Bills WR would have had two weeks to get healthier. McD probably doesn't call the dumb TO Reid did. I still think Tampa wins 24-17 but it is a close game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: We can always re-write history, I guess. If last night's game was a close one, sure, we could speculate that the Bills may have had a win. But it wasn't. It was a complete manhandling. Josh in the second half of the Chiefs game was facing serial jailbreaks, just like Mahomes (I don't but that Mahomes is inferior at going through progressions under duress) and the result was similar. The Bills would have had no answer for Devon White, JPP, and Shaq Barrett---- just like the Chiefs. You think Feliciano, Williams, etc got slapped around by the Chiefs front 7?? Imagine how the Bucs would have their way with them... Anyone who thinks the Bills would have beaten the Bucs simply don't know football and or they are blinded by the "Bills homerism." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, dneveu said: Run it. They went with 6 DBs against our 11 personnel - Should be able to get some gains there. They doubled digs and bease depending on the situation. I think brown and davis both being banged up prevented them from ever really considering going with a 2 high look against us unless it was 3rd and forever. Run it and get Knox more involved early. Run Josh too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Na not with chiefs dbs allowed to just dry hump us all over the field 🤣 they could get real creative against us pass rush wise because they were just single covering everyone across the board. As much as im sick of brady winning those flags felt like poetic justice last night ...im sure 9ers fans would agree since they lost the super bowl because the chiefs were allowed to neutralize the strength of their team with offensive holding lol The chiefs were in their own version of the 'omg we have to start Brian winters' scenario 🤣 it is not the same chiefs team we faced and the rules were enforced in a completely different way. The bucs hardly blitzed at all last night they were getting home with 4. The chiefs blitzed us a lot because their secondary didn't need help...its two completely different games that can't be compared in the way were trying to. Its surreal honestly listening to this Bowles is a genius commentary...it was a Leslie frazier-esque soft zone game plan he was just playing against scrubs on the oline ...Im not saying we wouldve won i think the bucs offense wouldve given us fits but I think our offensive line wouldve held up considerably better and we wouldve provided a much more entertaining game Since when have the Bills beat Brady and Gronk in a meaningful game? Ponder that one. 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Come on man. They played the Chiefs twice and got beaten soundly both times. They had every opportunity to make that their game plan. Agree 100%. The Chiefs are and were a better team than us. Our defense is exploitable and we can't run the ball. The Chiefs will beat us 8.5 games out of 10 with our current rosters. Edited February 9, 2021 by newcam2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Anyone who thinks the Bills would have beaten the Bucs simply don't know football and or they are blinded by the "Bills homerism." Replace “would” with “could”. We will never know, of course. How do things turn out if the two throws to KC WR’s that bounce off their face masks are actually CAUGHT for TD’s. Swings in momentum are HUGE factors in games. We can’t “know” anything. Saying you know for sure seems like not knowing anything about football. I get the KC OLine (with injuries) was a problem, but a break here and there and it could look like a totally different game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 11:12 PM, stevestojan said: How is this even a question? KCs o-line couldn’t protect the only QB in the world who is more mobile than Josh. We would have gotten DESTROYED. KC O line was really decimated after losing Fisher in AFC Champ game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: the Bucs D looked much better because they were going against JV olinemen. That defense is good— but you make it sound like they are the 1986 bears. We were one of the best 4 teams in the league. They weren’t going to do that to our o-line. Was the Chiefs front 7 the 85 Bears? No--and they aren't the 2020 Bucs either, but they "did that" to the Bills O-line. And the Bills O-line is acknowledged as unit that needs an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 . The Bills would have won- we’re better! GO BILLSSS!!!! 🏈🍺😎🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Run it and get Knox more involved early. Run Josh too. I think a key in this one was how much better gronk is than knox. More sure handed and a load to tackle. Theyd run that TE out/screen thing we do with knox and gronk got a 1st every time they ran it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I personally think we would have scored multiple touchdowns. Doubt we win tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 11:44 AM, WhoTom said: False dichotomy. Acknowledging that the SB winners would have beaten us isn't the same as saying we suck. Ooh, fancy words. You right...to a degree. Saying that Tampa would've beat the Bills in the Super Bowl is one thing. Saying that they'd absolutely dominate the Bills like I've seen said is another thing. Some seem so certain that Tampa would just wipe the floor with the Bills and I don't see it that way. I think KC overlooked Tampa and figured they'd do what they did to them in the regular season. Tampa was ready, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 20 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Agree 100%. The Chiefs are and were a better team than us. Our defense is exploitable and we can't run the ball. The Chiefs will beat us 8.5 games out of 10 with our current rosters. What is this we, us, and our of which you speak? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What is this we, us, and our of which you speak? Sorry, I was talking about the Bills football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I think we would have made it closer than KC but a win? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) On 2/9/2021 at 7:42 AM, Mr. WEO said: Was the Chiefs front 7 the 85 Bears? No--and they aren't the 2020 Bucs either, but they "did that" to the Bills O-line. And the Bills O-line is acknowledged as unit that needs an upgrade. Buffalo has a very good O-Line. Don't let the one game against KC colour your view. Also, wasn't aware, but I guess the Bucs are the best team in the NFL now. No one can beat them! Edited February 10, 2021 by Boxcar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 No, a Bills victory wouldn't have been allowed against brady and the Bucs. The Bills penalty yards would've been record breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 12:06 AM, ScottLaw said: Come on man. They played the Chiefs twice and got beaten soundly both times. They had every opportunity to make that their game plan. I don’t necessarily accept this argument - the Saints turned over the Bucs twice in the regular season, including a blowout at Raymond James, yet come the play offs the Bucs easily held the upper hand. The Bills are capable of beating the Chiefs and the Bucs but we’d have to bring our A Game to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I thought we could before TBs playoff run. That Defense came alive and it was curtains. I do not think we could have beat them of Feb. 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 1:10 PM, djp14150 said: peop,e seem to forget. The Bucs had the benefit of playing KC earlier so they could make adjustments. If this was the first time meeting, possibly a different game. buffalo is more familiar with Brady tendencies and play calls. They have bern able to control Gronk. Mahones mobility was hurt. Allen would have done much better. Yeah, you're right on that second bullet - the Bills have had pretty good success against Brady and Gronk - that would have surely worked to our advantage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Here are some facts to consider or mull over when deciding this question Josh was the healthy QB that would have run from people much easier then Mahomes.. especially with his turf toe Our O'Line was in a much better spot being one of the best in the league giving the QB Time. We have faced the best secondary in the game without trouble. Why should Tampa be different? OR.... Would Tampa of had an easier time running against us.. With Brady playing and beating the Bills so much in the past how much confidence does this add? Would they of been able to score more points against us do to their amazing run game? I personally feel when you way all this out we would of done better then KC but still lost. this is a personal opinion now... don't crucify me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Any team can win any given Sunday, but the Bucs played a near perfect game on offense and defense. Bucs defense is significantly stronger in their front 7, they have a serviceable run game, a knucklehead but better TE, and Allen is not in Tom Brady's class as of yet. So, no. Bills would have scored more than 9 points, but Bucs beat New Orleans, Green Bay, and KC handily. Bills are a top 5 team next year, but KC and Tampa Bay are favorites and should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) On 2/8/2021 at 7:28 PM, Augie said: Replace “would” with “could”. We will never know, of course. How do things turn out if the two throws to KC WR’s that bounce off their face masks are actually CAUGHT for TD’s. Swings in momentum are HUGE factors in games. We can’t “know” anything. Saying you know for sure seems like not knowing anything about football. I get the KC OLine (with injuries) was a problem, but a break here and there and it could look like a totally different game. Of course we can't know for sure. However, I disagree with your premise. The Chiefs are a better team. A poor match up for the Bills because we have no one to stop Kelce and a defense that lacks a consistent pass rush and isn't great at stoping the run. On offense the Bills are too one dimensional. They waxed the Bills 2xs and that wasn't coincidental. A break here or there wouldn't have made a difference. In fact, one could argue the Bills did get the breaks. Hill dropped a 3rd down pass deep in Bills territory and the Chiefs muffed a punt and gave thw Bills the ball inside the 5 yard line. Come on brother. Love the Bills, but they weren't going to win that game unless Mahomes breaks his leg. Hopefully, the Bills will be even hungrier, draft well, make a few key pick ups, and players develop more. The Bills future looks bright but KC is the cream of the crop. Buffalo, Clev, Pitts, Balt, Indy, Tenn are trying to dethrone KC. Next year is going to be fun. Edited February 11, 2021 by newcam2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Boxcar said: Buffalo has a very good O-Line. Don't let the one game against KC colour your view. Also, wasn't aware, but I guess the Bucs are the best team in the NFL now. No one can beat them! 2 games... Over their final 8 games, no one (not Brees, not Rodgers, not Mahomes) could beat the Bucs. That part you got correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 59 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 2 games... Over their final 8 games, no one (not Brees, not Rodgers, not Mahomes) could beat the Bucs. That part you got correct. Yeah they started off a little rocky, but that was likely do to some new guys learning to play with each other and BA learning to work with Brady. You could tell the difference later in the season when they started "gelling" together I guess you could say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 21 hours ago, Georgia Bill said: Yeah, you're right on that second bullet - the Bills have had pretty good success against Brady and Gronk - that would have surely worked to our advantage Let's ignore the part where both players are well past their primes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Hard to say. That defense was firing on all cylinders. Brady got the MVP, but the entire defense of the Bucs really deserved it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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