Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, cle23 said: You can't deny interviews when it's a promotion. You can until we’re done with the AFC championship I guess the Super Bowl teams must allow them for a week under the new rules https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2020/12/23/22196933/nfl-modifies-hiring-process-allows-teams-to-interview-coaching-candidates-immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel logic Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Bills are in for long term winning SUPER BOWL experience for coaches before bolting Great ownership Leslie Frazier to coach Houston has legs HC could call his Defense if needed Pro bowl 23 yr old QB setting different records every wk No direction, just a few reasons a Coach would want to stay in buff...Ride the coaster for a few seasons then you can choose were you want to go coach....from my perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 What’s with the worry? As long as they keep McDermott and Beane they will be fine.... The other guys are interchangeable.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean hopefully he gets some good advice from Daboll. Maybe you can get this OC job but do you really want your first one to be for the ***** Lions or would you rather slide up a rung here in like a year. I'm afraid the discussion would be, I'm going to be a HC in a year's time, and you can come with me and be the OC at the new place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 He must have good knee caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: What’s with the worry? As long as they keep McDermott and Beane they will be fine.... The other guys are interchangeable.. As long as they keep the offensive weapons loaded Allen will be fine. There should always be a slight worry though. Look at the Eagles. Things change fast. Howie Roseman and Doug Pederson were looked at the same way Beane and McDermott are now. A couple bad decisions at WR and people start getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 hours ago, wppete said: I’m a Detroit Lion fan. Godspeed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 10 hours ago, whorlnut said: We “know” Daboll is gone next year? Uh ok...I thought that was supposed to happen this year? Bottom line...nobody “knows” anything. Maybe teams don’t view Daboll’s personality as head coach material. We have no idea... Pshaw! We lose any coaching staff, we just go get a retread from the Crimson Tide! Roll lemons! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: the bowl is not going to be the OC forever Your “talk to post” routine or whatever is going on there is always good for entertainment value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean hopefully he gets some good advice from Daboll. Maybe you can get this OC job but do you really want your first one to be for the ***** Lions or would you rather slide up a rung here in like a year. Also - if a succession plan really is in place, Pegs could sweeten Dorsey's compensation a bit to make the wait easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Would Det really go with an OC that never called plays and a HC that doesn't have play calling experience? It can't be that hard to find an OC with experience. Bring someone from College. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I was afraid this would happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 hours ago, White Linen said: Dorsey has to know Daboll is likely gone next year and he's in line for our OC. If he's willing to go to Detroit and leave Allen and what we have here, just to be an OC one year earlier, then he might not be too bright. This. Not related to your reply per se but I don't buy into the whole "why go to Detroit?!" mantra. 4 years ago, many would have said, "Why go to Buffalo?": Cap hell, awfully ran organization, taking over after Rex, never win, no playoffs in 14 years. etc etc. It just takes the right people at the top to turn things around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 12 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Yeah this sucks. Who's the next man up next off-season IF Daboll and Dorset are gone? Is he on the staff currently 🤔 Chad Hall. If he isn't the OC in Buffalo in 2022 he will be the OC somewhere else. 36 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Would Det really go with an OC that never called plays and a HC that doesn't have play calling experience? It can't be that hard to find an OC with experience. Bring someone from College. They are also interviewing Anthony Lynn I believe though he is in play in multiple spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Warcodered said: Isn't their new HC an admitted cannibal? He just likes knee caps. So basically if your with him in a bar and Paige Spiranac walks in wearing a skirt he’s going to say oh my god look at that chicks knee caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: As long as they keep the offensive weapons loaded Allen will be fine. There should always be a slight worry though. Look at the Eagles. Things change fast. Howie Roseman and Doug Pederson were looked at the same way Beane and McDermott are now. A couple bad decisions at WR and people start getting fired. The bad decisions have been at QB. Wentz and then benching Hurts. 7 minutes ago, warrior9 said: This. Not related to your reply per se but I don't buy into the whole "why go to Detroit?!" mantra. 4 years ago, many would have said, "Why go to Buffalo?": Cap hell, awfully ran organization, taking over after Rex, never win, no playoffs in 14 years. etc etc. It just takes the right people at the top to turn things around. Until they go through an overhaul it’s a dead end job. 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Chad Hall. If he isn't the OC in Buffalo in 2022 he will be the OC somewhere else. Hall joined the Bills in 2017 as an offensive assistant and just became WR coach last year. I would think OC is several years off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Until they go through an overhaul it’s a dead end job. Most would have said the exact same about Buffalo? You need people in place in order to overgo an overhaul. It doesn't just happen. It starts with: Owner belief in the new staff. New GM. New head coach. patience. Right people in place. You don't just walk in and say "wow it's done, this is now a great job!" 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Hall joined the Bills in 2017 as an offensive assistant and just became WR coach last year. I would think OC is several years off. Zac Taylor went from ASSISTANT WR coach (2017), QB coach (2018), HEAD COACH (2019) Edited January 22, 2021 by warrior9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Hall joined the Bills in 2017 as an offensive assistant and just became WR coach last year. I would think OC is several years off. Really don't think it is. He is extremely highly rated in the building and his work has been spotted elsewhere. Might have it as one of my 2021 Bolds that be the end of the hiring season after next season Chad Hall is an OC in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 We’ll survive this folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 13 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Supposedly Detroit is interested in Dorsey to be their OC. They’re interviewing multiple candidates. It would be pretty unfortunate if we got to keep Daboll knowing he’s probably gone next season and the man who many believe is his heir apparent gets an OC job a year early. Hopefully they go another direction or Dorsey sticks around. LINK Block the Interview 13 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Teams are no longer allowed to block positions coaches from interviewing from coordinator jobs. Yep I forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Would Det really go with an OC that never called plays and a HC that doesn't have play calling experience? It can't be that hard to find an OC with experience. Bring someone from College. Well....Apparently they just went with a DC who has never called plays to accompany a HC that doesn't have play calling experience. 47 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: He just likes knee caps. So basically if your with him in a bar and Paige Spiranac walks in wearing a skirt he’s going to say oh my god look at that chicks knee caps. Except he doesn't want to look at them, he wants to bite them off. Or something. It was just weird. 13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Except they still can't interview guys on teams that are still in it right now. For the two teams that are knocked out, no longer issue as of Monday. For the other two, there's a window I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well....Apparently they just went with a DC who has never called plays to accompany a HC that doesn't have play calling experience. Except he doesn't want to look at them, he wants to bite them off. Or something. It was just weird. Except they still can't interview guys on teams that are still in it right now. For the two teams that are knocked out, no longer issue as of Monday. For the other two, there's a window I believe. That is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 12 hours ago, BearNorth said: Not to mention Bienemy colors all the squares and is likely to be hired before Dabs. Multiple arrests is one of the squares. Need to sympathize with some players who went thru same immature entitled situations. 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think Daboll could explain to him that if you take an OC job where you’re really not set up for success, you can wind up bouncing around the league and be seen as a failure. Then it can be a long time coming to get another shot. The Steelers model where you work different coaching positions for same team is a better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Warcodered said: Isn't their new HC an admitted cannibal? That pick is another Detroit disaster in the making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 This would be a terrible loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Another year with allen might propel him into head coaching discussions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 If he is smart he would stay here and become OC after Daboll leaves. Im sure we can keep him if we start grooming him as a successor and give hime confirmation he will be next OC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: If he is smart he would stay here and become OC after Daboll leaves. Im sure we can keep him if we start grooming him as a successor and give hime confirmation he will be next OC He could also stay here and become Daboll's OC when he leaves next year. Either way he becomes an OC with familiarity and would be in a better position than leaving now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, warrior9 said: Most would have said the exact same about Buffalo? You need people in place in order to overgo an overhaul. It doesn't just happen. It starts with: Owner belief in the new staff. New GM. New head coach. patience. Right people in place. You don't just walk in and say "wow it's done, this is now a great job!" Zac Taylor went from ASSISTANT WR coach (2017), QB coach (2018), HEAD COACH (2019) Taylor has worked out well. Many times.people can move too quick.at the expense of the long term. It sometimes works but more often not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 hours ago, White Linen said: Dorsey has to know Daboll is likely gone next year and he's in line for our OC. If he's willing to go to Detroit and leave Allen and what we have here, just to be an OC one year earlier, then he might not be too bright. Totally agree. I mentioned in another thread a few days ago that Ken Dorsey will also benefit having one more year to prep and that it would make sense that Daboll helps him prepare too. Patience Ken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 after seeing the Campbell PC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, nucci said: after seeing the Campbell PC? He just made the refs watch his players very close next season. He reminded me of Greg Williams in New Orleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Just Joshin' said: Taylor has worked out well. Many times.people can move too quick.at the expense of the long term. It sometimes works but more often not. 100%. I'm really not sure Taylor has worked out well, at all. Time will tell. I just meant that in terms of.... It doesn't matter how long you've been in the league coaching if someone sees your talent. Josh McCown just got a head coaching interview today and has never coached in the NFL or college for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Haven't McDermott and Beane earned our trust yet? I believe they look through everything with an analytics angle: -No D-line stars? Accumulate a bunch of solid players, no superstars, pay them all decently, and use them interchangeably. -Concern for our kicking game? Draft a stud kicker in Rd. 6. -Fear of our top WR getting injured? Tell him to get to the ground when contact approaches (with an assist from Chad Hall). -Rushing game is weak? Use middle rounds to draft decent talents, hoping one becomes a stud. This team has no glaring weaknesses. I have full faith in this regime. They make mistakes from time to time, but they always stack percentages in their favour, which eventually produces success. If Dorsey (or Daboll, or Hall, or Frasier, etc) leave, they will find a solid replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 21 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Teams are no longer allowed to block positions coaches from interviewing from coordinator jobs. Yes, but that doesn't mean that you can't show up at Dorsey's house with a truckload of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 hours ago, warrior9 said: Zac Taylor went from ASSISTANT WR coach (2017), QB coach (2018), HEAD COACH (2019) Yeah and everyone wondered "why?" I think someone joked it was because he list "friends with Sean McVay" on his resume. 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Really don't think it is. He is extremely highly rated in the building and his work has been spotted elsewhere. Might have it as one of my 2021 Bolds that be the end of the hiring season after next season Chad Hall is an OC in the NFL. Diggs said he was the best WR coach he's ever had. That's high praise indeed. Does it make him worthy of being an OC already? What I'd do is give him a pay bump and tell him "look Chad, Daboll will likely be leaving after next season so wait-it-out a bit" and then maybe let him call plays in a game/blowouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Yes, but that doesn't mean that you can't show up at Dorsey's house with a truckload of cash. If only Allen and Barkley had bought him a new truck for Xmas. Fromm could have kicked in the insurance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: That pick is another Detroit disaster in the making. For some reason when I read this post, I mentally inserted an "r" into that word I don't know why 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: For some reason when I read this post, I mentally inserted an "r" into that word I don't know why that too--this guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Doc said: Diggs said he was the best WR coach he's ever had. That's high praise indeed. Does it make him worthy of being an OC already? What I'd do is give him a pay bump and tell him "look Chad, Daboll will likely be leaving after next season so wait-it-out a bit" and then maybe let him call plays in a game/blowouts. Yea he isn't leaving this year. If Dorsey does then Chad becomes the #1 in house candidate for OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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