Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Read an article in the Atlantic that mentioned 5 possible trades for Watson. The 5 teams were the Jets, Dolphins, 49ers, Falcons and Lions. Frankly, I surprised to see the value each team would give in a potential trade. At any rate, I think it would be great to get Watson in the AFCE. why would you want to bring high talent competition to the AFC East, especially at the QB position? There’s already too many young studs in the AFC as it is! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 You know what’s REALLY exciting??? Malaria!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 we don’t want that to happen at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Bring it on haters, I totally agree! Football is entertainment and now that we have a top-tier team the next level of entertainment will be a fierce divisional rivalry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, thronethinker said: This is just junk post for the sake of who knows what. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion, but we need more of Adam Gase—that would be truly more exciting imho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Sounds like a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Ship him off to the NFC! Look at the disparity in QB talent (especially young) between the conferences. The AFC is gonna be brutal for the next decade plus. The balance needs to be shifted a bit and that has to start with Watson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think Mayfield or Murray are close to interchangeable with Watson. I think that is frankly a borderline crazy opinion. The poster I replied to, said "there was no chance Browns or Cards would part with Mayfield or Murray". I Watson is as good as you believe, then they would of course trade Mayfield or Murray. Lots of speculation on Jets and Fins. Darnold & Tua have not even proven they are legit NFL starters. Houston needs to come up with some hope. Murray or Mayfield provide some hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Still better than the Josh Norman isn't writing checks fast enough thread... Exciting? Sure. Do I think it would be great? Hell naw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Chaos said: The poster I replied to, said "there was no chance Browns or Cards would part with Mayfield or Murray". I Watson is as good as you believe, then they would of course trade Mayfield or Murray. Lots of speculation on Jets and Fins. Darnold & Tua have not even proven they are legit NFL starters. Houston needs to come up with some hope. Murray or Mayfield provide some hope. Watson is as good as I believe. You are just wrong. Honestly what is your basis for believing him to be on a par with Mayfield or Murray? There is literally no evidence to support that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 hours ago, H2o said: There were "reports" he was was to be involved in both. McNair said he would keep him "in the loop" during the coaching search. Either way, Deshaun comes off as a kid who is mad he got a strawberry Blow-Pop instead of watermelon one to me. You knew where you were at. You see how previous situations have been handled. You still signed the contract to get that $$$ a couple months after they shipped Nuk out of town. Now you want to be up in arms about the GM hire and not answer texts/phone calls? Very professional and not prima-donna-esque at all, no. Trade him for a massive haul, or let him sit and not get paid at all. It's on him, or at least act like an adult while trying to work through it. While I agree with sitting players who will not honor contract (being cut is part of it) and "in the loop" can mean many things but sitting will not work next year. The salary cap will be reduced next year. In order to keep him under contract they will need to have salary cap available for him even if he does not play for if they don't he will sign and they need to scramble to make space and players will tell agents not to restructure to help Texans. Texans best chance is to find a coach he will accept and bring him in interview. Despite Watson wanting Eric Bieniemy he is no Dr. Watson and he does not realize Texans are not interested in him probably for his extensive bad boy experience which makes it hard to be a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: why would you want to bring high talent competition to the AFC East, especially at the QB position? There’s already too many young studs in the AFC as it is! Steel sharpens steel. I don't want a bunch of cupcakes in the AFCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Pokebball said: Steel sharpens steel. I don't want a bunch of cupcakes in the AFCE. Ok genius. Whatever floats your boat! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I could see niners, lions,I would think the texans would like to keep him out of the AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Pokebball said: Steel sharpens steel. I don't want a bunch of cupcakes in the AFCE. As demonstrated by the franchise outside of Boston over the last two decades, a bunch of cupcakes in the AFCE can get you some great shots at titles. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: As demonstrated by the franchise outside of Boston over the last two decades, a bunch of cupcakes in the AFCE can get you some great shots at titles. Especially when cupcakes are laced with drugs like date rate drugs. New England's successes should NEVER be mentioned with mentioning the cheating except by their fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 If I am Watson, I'd be trying to force a trade to the NFC with my no trade clause. Yeah, you want to play and compete against the best and all that, but let's do that in the Super Bowl. Not in the divisional title game and conference championship game every single year. I know the two teams with the biggest assets are in the AFC, Jets and Dolphins. But who are the candidates in the NFC? Bears...they've been killed for taking Turbitzky over Mahomes and Watson and now they have a chance to right that wrong. Saints... cap hell? So maybe not a realistic option. Wash Football Team...Do you really want to hitch your wagon to Heineke or Kyle Allen? Vikings...Cousins is Phillip Rivers 2.0 Nice stats but never good enough to get you over the top. Time for a change and youth movement. Lions... See Cousins Rams... if they have really soured on Goff, I could see this team making a move. They've shown they like to make big moves. 49ers...same as the Rams if they have soured on Jimmy G. Eagles...Can't imagine Watson signing off on going to the Eagles. Panthers… Bridgewater is not the future. I think there are more teams in the NFC that should/could make a change. They just don't have the assets. Although with a lot of these, contract wise, Cousins, Goff and Stafford it's more of a somewhat even trade so less need to give up multiple first and second round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Matt Barkey is coming back to Buffalo either Ok, so it was a bad comparison.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 20 hours ago, mannc said: Well, it’s kind of an unprecedented situation. Usually having a QB like Watson assures that you won’t be shopping for a new HC and/or GM, but O’Brian’s incompetence simply beggared belief. Do you doubt that Kraft would have consulted Brady if Belichick had suddenly retired a few years ago, or that KC would talk to Mahomes about the new coach if Andy Reid called it quits? Yes. I do indeed, if Brady or Mahomes asked for the courtesy. Kraft without question, and whoever owns KC if he has any sense. Pretty sure they would've reserved the right to listen and go another way. But I doubt it would've come to that. You absolutely need to keep those guys happy. Hell, apparently Kraft forced Belichick to trade Garoppolo because it's what Brady wanted, over Belichick's protests. Absolutely they would've given Brady a voice. Mahoes too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 from what i've seen in this thread, jets, bears 9ers and panthers make the most sense, based on what i think is cap room and what they can offer/need. perhaps a 3 way w NE sf and houston. a dark horse i'll add: dallas. if dak is too hurt, or if things have gone sour between him and jerry, i could see jerry pushing for the block buster trade to get the best qb in the state of texas. watson is a national brand, and being in big D would suit him. also, the nfc least is a pushover division, so he alone and a decent draft can put him in the playoffs. beyond that, if i were him, i'd want to go to carolina. some decent young players, and w brees retiring, matt ryan getting a bit older, and brady has what, 2 years left? he could be the leader there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I still don't understand how this is even a considered possibility, due to the dead cap implications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Maybe he will pick the next replacement for Roger Goodell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, appoo said: I still don't understand how this is even a considered possibility, due to the dead cap implications and the 3 1st rounder asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Jets fans are pretty excited that Watson could become a Jet based on this video I will try to insert here. https://twitter.com/jetstothewest/status/1351784369753530370?s=20 Edited January 20, 2021 by No_Matter_What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Please, Houston. Hire Bienemy so that Watson stays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: and the 3 1st rounder asking Jets have 2 1sts this year and 2 1sts next. So it can happen, just not all in one year. Or Jets trade their 2022 1sts for 1 2020 1st, and have 3 this year. That's the easiest part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Carolina now the vegas favourite. Interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, appoo said: I still don't understand how this is even a considered possibility, due to the dead cap implications The dead cap would be just above $20M, the remains of the signing bonus only. The rest of what is listed as dead cap is actually just guaranteed money, which the team that trades for Watson would take over. $20M is still onerous, but not nearly as onerous as having a franchise QB who is not with the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Jets have 2 1sts this year and 2 1sts next. So it can happen, just not all in one year. Or Jets trade their 2022 1sts for 1 2020 1st, and have 3 this year. That's the easiest part of the deal. If they win a few more games with Watson, their future 1st round picks lose the value at least one of them has now. Plus they would need a 3rd team to do this business with. Plus they have lots of needs to be giving away so many top picks. Houston has a better roster than the Jets....and they won 4 games with Watson this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Limeaid said: Especially when cupcakes are laced with drugs like date rate drugs. It's early in this new year........but your ability to go so far out of your way to say something unnecessarily creepy..........I really see no end in site to your reign. The competition is playing for 2022 already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If they win a few more games with Watson, their future 1st round picks lose the value at least one of them has now. Plus they would need a 3rd team to do this business with. Plus they have lots of needs to be giving away so many top picks. Houston has a better roster than the Jets....and they won 4 games with Watson this year. So what? You said you didnt understand how this is considered a possibility with the the 3 1st asking price. They have the resources to cover it. Hypotheticals be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Please, Houston. Hire Bienemy so that Watson stays. Of course. Hire an offensive coordinator to coach the worst defense in the NFL. If this team was serious they would hire Frazier. If they let that clown Watson dictate who they hire they will be losing games 45 to 35 for the next decade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Any discussion with Watson of being traded starts with "pay back your signing bonus/guarantees and you're being traded to the NFC only. If you accept that, then we can talk" Then with the trading team it's at least 3-1sts. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: So what? You said you didnt understand how this is considered a possibility with the the 3 1st asking price. They have the resources to cover it. Hypotheticals be damned. Well, nearly every team has 3 1st over the next 3 years.... The point is that even for the Jets, that price is prohibitive. Edited January 20, 2021 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Well, nearly every team has 3 1st over the next 3 years.... The point is that even for the Jets, that price is prohibitive. Are you high? They have 4 in 2 years. The price is not prohibitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Are you high? They have 4 in 2 years. The price is not prohibitive. Maybe they could give it all up to go 4-12 with Watson next year...if their lucky? Great point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: and the 3 1st rounder asking Well 3 first rounders doesn't seem like enough if Jamal Adams goes for 2 first rounders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, y2zipper said: Well 3 first rounders doesn't seem like enough if Jamal Adams goes for 2 first rounders. It's not. Likely will need 4 1sts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 2:03 PM, mannc said: I may have been wrong about my assessment of Mayfield and the Browns. Apparently the Browns aren’t even sure they are going to pick up Baker’s 5th year option. Fact remains, they would have to send Houston a lot more than Mayfield (if Houston even wants him) to get Watson. Wait, Wat? Where heard? 7 hours ago, Doc said: Any discussion with Watson of being traded starts with "pay back your signing bonus/guarantees and you're being traded to the NFC only. If you accept that, then we can talk" Then with the trading team it's at least 3-1sts. Oh, That would go well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Doc said: Any discussion with Watson of being traded starts with "pay back your signing bonus/guarantees and you're being traded to the NFC only. If you accept that, then we can talk" Then with the trading team it's at least 3-1sts. Agreed, I think it was Dick Vermeil that said Watson needs a diaper change. Kind of agree with him. With that being said, I dont know all the circumstances obviously. None of us do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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