BillsMafi$ Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30722170/sources-buffalo-bills-oc-brian-daboll-emerges-favorite-land-los-angeles-chargers-head-coaching-job?platform=amp#click=https://t.co/egmjHNrWvU 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsMafi$ said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30722170/sources-buffalo-bills-oc-brian-daboll-emerges-favorite-land-los-angeles-chargers-head-coaching-job?platform=amp#click=https://t.co/egmjHNrWvU Ken Dorsey come on down 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 As he should be. Going to be dangerous with Herbert. Daboll and the GM Telesco both went to St Francis as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Well shiiiiiii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 It’s ok. Well deserved! Congrats Coach Daboll! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 My biggest question is how many coaches leave with him. Could be a few of them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: As he should be. Going to be dangerous with Herbert. Daboll and the GM Telesco both went to St Francis as well. Well shirt. Between Herbert and 2 Buffalo guys, it would be like the Bills 2.0 down there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Well, no surprise. He and Herbert seemed like the best fit all along. I don't want to see him go, but if he does, this is the right place for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Big shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Dorsey has never called plays. Not saying he can’t do it but I don’t think it should be a foregone conclusion that he’d be the next man up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) So...Buffalo IS moving to Los Angeles after all??? Edited January 16, 2021 by JimBob2232 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: My biggest question is how many coaches leave with him. Could be a few of them. I think a lot would depend on who we hire at OC- from within less from the outside more Another poster in a different thread pointed out most of the offensive staff has ties to McDermott and that daboll only brought in 1 guy of his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I'd think the Chargers would be a bit nervous about hiring another Bills OC. 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Worst kept secret that the Chargers have coveted Daboll all along. Dorsey likely to be the Bills' OC. The real question is - will anyone hire Leslie and give us 2 3rd round comp picks? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Dorsey has never called plays. Not saying he can’t do it but I don’t think it should be a foregone conclusion that he’d be the next man up. I really wouldn't be shocked if they hire from the outside I expect a promotion but don't think it's as sure of a thing that's being talked about around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: I'd think the Chargers would be a bit nervous about hiring another Bills OC. slight difference - one was let go and second would very much be a Bills OC if not for the promotion. That said, I actually like Anthony Lynn. He is very good as a strategist. Just needs to improve his in-game tactics. Maybe hire an in-game calling situational specialist as an assistant and he would actually be fine as a HC somewhere after spending time as an OC. The Rooney rule will help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I just hope they have to wait until the Super Bowl is over to hire him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Dorsey has never called plays. Not saying he can’t do it but I don’t think it should be a foregone conclusion that he’d be the next man up. Continuity for the offense is so huge. The worst thing they could do IMO is bring in someone with a new system. Would rather have Dorsey and the same offense with limited previous play calling experience than a new OC with new system that has called plays. It seems Dorsey and Josh have a good relationship, he knows what Josh is good at and likes, and at this point Josh is getting familiar/experienced enough to check into his own plays at LOS more and more 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Dorsey has never called plays. Not saying he can’t do it but I don’t think it should be a foregone conclusion that he’d be the next man up. If we go another week in the playoffs he might have to be (or at least an internal hire might) because external candidates are gonna start being hoovered up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Hopefully he stays. But this match made the most sense from the start. If I’m Daboll that’s where I want to go- a loaded team with a good qb that can win now. Without bad time management and situational game management the chargers would’ve been right there fighting for a playoff spot. First thing I do if I’m Daboll is overhaul that strength and conditioning program. The chargers get ravaged with injuries every year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Keep winning and hope these teams get tired of waiting for the SB and hire someone else 🤞 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Talk about a gameday distraction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 You guys do realize that Daboll’s agent was already contacted when LA was out of the post season picture, and that Daboll knew all this already, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Don Otreply said: You guys do realize that Daboll’s agent was already contacted when LA was out of the post season picture, and that Daboll knew all this already, right? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, stevewin said: Continuity for the offense is so huge. The worst thing they could do IMO is bring in someone with a new system. Would rather have Dorsey and the same offense with limited previous play calling experience than a new OC with new system that has called plays. It seems Dorsey and Josh have a good relationship, he knows what Josh is good at and likes, and at this point Josh is getting familiar/experienced enough to check into his own plays at LOS more and more IMO Coach Diabolical's offense is so complicated and he adjusts offense game plan so much that it will be difficult to replace him in house or out with same system. He also does double fake game plans very well where defenses have seen it and know how to defend it but it plays out differently fooling them. Daboll also had amany years training in the P*ts' Erhardt-Perkins offensive system he adapted. Who will be available with experience in that system? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Yeah I figured this was probably the perfect situation for him. Fairly decent roster and his QB is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: IMO Coach Diabolical's offense is so complicated and he adjusts offense game plan so much that it will be difficult to replace him in house or out with same system. He also does double fake game plans very well where defenses have seen it and know how to defend it but it plays out differently fooling them. Daboll also had amany years training in the P*ts' Erhardt-Perkins offensive system he adapted. Who will be available with experience in that system? Thats the issue. No real idea how much input Dorsey has into the installation, strategy and play design on a weekly or yearly basis. No idea how fluent he is in the E-P system. And he’s never called plays as a coach at any level. ”Continuity” in this context means very little. Personally I’d like to see them bring in someone a bit more balanced - I’m still not sure Josh understands what running plays to check into, because the Bills don’t execute any of them effectively. Would extend his career to be able to run the ball from time to time. That’s one key difference between Daboll’s offense and the Patriots’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Limeaid said: IMO Coach Diabolical's offense is so complicated and he adjusts offense game plan so much that it will be difficult to replace him in house or out with same system. He also does double fake game plans very well where defenses have seen it and know how to defend it but it plays out differently fooling them. Daboll also had amany years training in the P*ts' Erhardt-Perkins offensive system he adapted. Who will be available with experience in that system? Charley Weis is available, doubt he would leave Florida for the 716, fun to listen to every morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, BearNorth said: Charley Weis is available, doubt he would leave Florida for the 716, fun to listen to every morning. Weis is the one who brought the E-P system to New England in the first place. He has been SO BAD as a coach everywhere else. But it’s the right idea - there are plenty of coaches out there who came up under that regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: My biggest question is how many coaches leave with him. Could be a few of them. How? Unless some of their contracts run out, they can't leave other than for a promotion, so really only two promotions could occur from a Bills position coach to OC and DC. Maybe if Dorsey doesn't get the OC job, he could ask to leave and the Bills would grant it. Even on a 13-3 team, there's also usually at least one coach let go at season end too so could be someone else the Bills wanted to move on from anyway. When do coaches contracts typically expire anyway? After the last game, I'd assume? I know front office contracts typically expire the beginning of May, right after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Good spot for him. Sunny SoCal, familiar faces, talented roster, and Josh-lite QB. Good for Dabes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 It’s a natural fit! But our job is not done here yet! Finish this ride first!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 There are HC's in the NFL who would leave their team to coach the Chargers. Daboll has to be thrilled about the chance to go there. Maybe the thought of the traffic in L.A. compared to here will sway him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Thats the issue. No real idea how much input Dorsey has into the installation, strategy and play design on a weekly or yearly basis. No idea how fluent he is in the E-P system. And he’s never called plays as a coach at any level. ”Continuity” in this context means very little. Personally I’d like to see them bring in someone a bit more balanced - I’m still not sure Josh understands what running plays to check into, because the Bills don’t execute any of them effectively. Would extend his career to be able to run the ball from time to time. That’s one key difference between Daboll’s offense and the Patriots’. Is this because our OL is inept at run blocking or because Daboll doesn’t know how to scheme for the run game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 He’d be crazy not to head for LA but something seems odd if the Chargers pull the trigger on yet another leadership connection to Buffalo, having tried John Butler years ago as GM and more recently Lynn as HC. We’ll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 You guys think the interview process during a playoff run is a distraction to a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Herbert is the closest thing to an Allen clone there is and he is already way ahead of where Allen was in year 1. Now the key is to see how much higher his ceiling is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, Big Turk said: Herbert is the closest thing to an Allen clone there is and he is already way ahead of where Allen was in year 1. Now the key is to see how much higher his ceiling is. his ceiling is likely much lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: When do coaches contracts typically expire anyway? After the last game, I'd assume? I know front office contracts typically expire the beginning of May, right after the draft. Most coaches expire after Superbowl set if they are expiring this year. Here is example from Coach McD's first year: http://www.billsdaily.com/frontoffice/2017.shtml He held onto coaches until he had replacements. Edited January 16, 2021 by Limeaid more info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 What about the OC in KC is he not getting any interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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