finn Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 15 hours ago, NewEra said: They are #2 guys. Similar to Damian Williams last year. Sony Michel/James White the year before. Lagarette Blount the year before. Are you suggesting that we upgrade? If so, with which resource? 1st or 2nd rd pick? Or a 8+ mill dollar salary? Beane tried to sign Melvin Gordon. He would have been a terrific addition, especially now. There are inexpensive options that don't involve a high pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Not just pass catching Yeldon can pick up blitz. Pass protection is way more important than everyone seems to be giving credit. As much as we pass this should be a big tell on who gets the nod. Edited January 10, 2021 by Lagoon Blues 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 21 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: gem. Hope he gets back. his heart... holding that ball during that painful takedown tells you all you need to know about this kid. He'll be RB1 next year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, finn said: Beane tried to sign Melvin Gordon. He would have been a terrific addition, especially now. There are inexpensive options that don't involve a high pick. Me: Are you suggesting that we upgrade? If so, with which resource? 1st or 2nd rd pick? Or a 8+ mill dollar salary? Melvin Gordon is getting paid 8 million a year. I’d love to add an inexpensive option at RB. I just don’t think we have the cap room to sign a RB that would be considered in the upper tiers. I had mentioned Leonard Fournette previously. I dunno what he’s going to cost, but his power and speed would fit perfectly imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, NewEra said: Me: Are you suggesting that we upgrade? If so, with which resource? 1st or 2nd rd pick? Or a 8+ mill dollar salary? Melvin Gordon is getting paid 8 million a year. I’d love to add an inexpensive option at RB. I just don’t think we have the cap room to sign a RB that would be considered in the upper tiers. I had mentioned Leonard Fournette previously. I dunno what he’s going to cost, but his power and speed would fit perfectly imo. I’d like to see a fast dynamic RB. Maybe a guy even similar to Hines type. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 21 hours ago, JimBob2232 said: We need a back this off-season. We don’t have a guy who is going to break a 50 yard run. Moss is decent as a short yardage/time eating kind of back. Singletary is a replacement level guy. I hate spending a first rounder on a back - so maybe we need to look in round 2/3 again. But we need someone with speed to break a few of these runs and ourrun a defense once in a while. Our 1d offense needs drastic measures to make defenses respect the run. Ol is tricky because our pass protection is other worldly but run blocking is meh. Hard to make that tradeoff unless we can find a guy or two more rounded. That said I wouldn't hate Etienne. Its a short term payoff but his short routes could serve as a running game of sorts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Is McKenzie a FA? If so I could see him ending up wherever Daboll goes He is a FA.... but I see Roberts gone next year and basically the Bills trying to keep McKenzie and having him be STs w/ WR duties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Me: Are you suggesting that we upgrade? If so, with which resource? 1st or 2nd rd pick? Or a 8+ mill dollar salary? Melvin Gordon is getting paid 8 million a year. I’d love to add an inexpensive option at RB. I just don’t think we have the cap room to sign a RB that would be considered in the upper tiers. I had mentioned Leonard Fournette previously. I dunno what he’s going to cost, but his power and speed would fit perfectly imo. My bad. I thought he got $2M. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’d like to see a fast dynamic RB. Maybe a guy even similar to Hines type. Agreed. A rb like Hines would be great opposite Moss. I wouldn’t want him to be the RB compliment to Motor though (I’m assuming we wouldn’t have a 3 back rotation) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Tough result for Moss and for the Bills, as he has been the best rb taking all positional responsibilities into account. Ive been especially impressed with his hands. Bills will look to upgrade the position next year IMO. Edited January 10, 2021 by starrymessenger 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 19 hours ago, bobobonators said: an upgrade at RB is not even close to being a priority in my opinion. You want the ball in the hands of your best player: Allen. So what does Allen need to make him even better? A rock-solid O-line and an assortment of weapons at WR and TE. Moss, Singletary and Williams are more than serviceable for this offense This. They both are very good to excellent Pass blockers and get to the Blitzer when called upon. They both catch well. and both Can run the ball hard as heck. Hope Moss gets his health back and bummed he is missing next week and the superbowl. Next year Zach ! 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’d like to see a fast dynamic RB. Maybe a guy even similar to Hines type. why we have the Draft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: He is a FA.... but I see Roberts gone next year and basically the Bills trying to keep McKenzie and having him be STs w/ WR duties They can keep both if they want to stay. Neither are that expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpschwartz Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: This. They both are very good to excellent Pass blockers and get to the Blitzer when called upon. They both catch well. and both Can run the ball hard as heck. Hope Moss gets his health back and bummed he is missing next week and the superbowl. Next year Zach ! why we have the Draft. Agreed. I think our running issues are in the OLine, not RB. Improve the line and it will help both Allen and RBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Just Joshin' said: While your premise is fine how do you know Williams is the answer? Too small a dataset to say yes. In the playoffs do you go with the vet or the PS player. The low risk option is Yeldon. Never said Williams was the answer. I know our options are limited and his sample size isn't enough to instill confidence. Just stating we need a stronger RB for the tough yards. Not going to put it all on Zach and Motor though. Our Run blocking is pretty darn bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, finn said: Beane tried to sign Melvin Gordon. He would have been a terrific addition, especially now. There are inexpensive options that don't involve a high pick. He also tried to sign leveon bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buddo Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 That sucks. After being distinctly unimpressed with him early, he had got up to speed with the NFL, and had become a very valuable complimentary piece to the offense. Good 'finisher', and didn't noticeably miss blocks. Ran hard. I feel genuinely sorry for the kid, as he has definitely been a contributor to the teams success, and it must hurt badly to no longer be a part of it, for as long as this season lasts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Time for Yeldon or Williams to step up. The Ravens blitz the most in the NFL, so if Yeldon is playing, the Bills should throw a bunch of screen passes to him as he is a receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well, Crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 That's too bad about Moss. Not a huge loss though in reality, as I think we can get his performance out of basically anyone. Hopefully he takes big step next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nato7412 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Take your pick, Williams or Yeldon getting called up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilmann Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Williams please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tuel Time said: That's too bad about Moss. Not a huge loss though in reality, as I think we can get his performance out of basically anyone. Hopefully he takes big step next year. I don’t really agree with this. He was the best option for short yardage pickup outside of Allen and very good blocker in passing game and blitz pickup Edited January 11, 2021 by YoloinOhio 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Yeldon SZN He has more experience and is a good pass catcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Whoever is better in pass pro. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t really agree with this. He was the best option for short yardage pickup outside of Allen and very good blocker in passing game and blitz pickup Ehhhhh being the best at short yardage is relative. He's a bit better than Singletary I'll grant you, but neither have been particular good this year. He's a mediocre running back in a mediocre running back room. We need big improvement here next year. EDIT and personally I don't think he's better at blocking than Singletary. And again, if he is, it's not much and certainly replacement level. Edited January 11, 2021 by Tuel Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Sucks for the rookie, hopefully Williams gets a shot and shocks the hell out of the Ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglientep Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I feel terrible for Moss. I was really hoping this next game he could make an impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Get well soon Zack Moss. Can they bring up Wade? My choice is Williams. As I posted elsewhere, I've know what I have in Yeldon, but I'm gonna believe my Lyin' Eyes, and go with a "Williams". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Yeldon SZN He has more experience and is a good pass catcher How is his blocking? I've never noticed which could be good, or bad. Moss LEVELED Bosa on one play that sticks in my mind and I've seen both him and Motor holding their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Well, I trust that the coaches will choose the guy who they trust and gives us the best chance to win based on the gameplan. Not really keen on giving Williams any touches given how little we've seen out of him. I'd hate to lose a playoff game because he puts the ball on the turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Yeldon was our best player v the Titans. Shocked he has not played since. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 It is my understanding that Yeldon is the better pass protector When you factor in how we pass the ball Yeldon seems like the no brainer here.......gives you the emergency outlet guy We are gonna have a hard time running on the Ravens no matter who we use.....so might as well play to our strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Yeldon was our best player v the Titans. Shocked he has not played since. I think TJ will get 25% of the RB touches. But like many have said it's a sham he hasn't been allowed to contribute more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, Devilmann said: Williams please He, all be it a small sample size, was light years better than either starting back. Hit the holes clean and broke tackles. I would love for him to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) I know this is crazy talk, and please know also that I am not being sarcastic when I say this, but couldn't both Yeldon and WIlliams play? Are we so desperate at other positions that the last man in whatever group (non-special teamer) who would normal suit up couldn't just sit? I want Williams the runner...badly. I want Yeldon everything else. Edited January 11, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I think if it actually is snowing we may see both. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I know this is crazy talk, and please know also that I am not being sarcastic when I say this, but couldn't both Yeldon and WIlliams play? Are we so desperate at other positions that the last man in whatever group (non-special teamer) who would normal suit up couldn't just sit? I want Williams the runner...badly. I want Yeldon everything else. I assume if you did that, you would be sitting Taiwan Jones, but he is a pretty big contributor on special teams last I checked. Not sure what other roster spot could sacrifice the depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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