Week 14: Steelers at Bills on SNF

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I am not sure the bills have the pass rush And run defense to Force the short game. 

that’s my concern too. The Steelers just played two defenses that can rush the QB a lot better than us, and so reverted to quick passes. 
 

If we can’t put pressure on Ben (likely) and can’t stop the run (we are getting better but there are still holes), that really opens up their offense.

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

31 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

 

Crapped the bed last year late at 8 and 3. I just think they come out and pound the piggs then the skys the limit this year. Im sure the confidence is pretty high in that locker room right now. The culture may already be changed, but the national perception of, "same old Bills" is still there. Prove em all wrong i say. 

 

Once again, the "Old Bills".  I guess everyone has an opinion on everything but for my money I can't even come close to compare the

2019 Buffalo Bills Offense to the 2020 version we are seeing.

 

The Bills Defense has taken a step back but the Offense has taken 2 big steps forward and the Special Teams seem to be getting stronger and stronger.

 

The 2019 Bills lost to the Patriots and Raven late in the season.  Both of those teams were better than the Bills last year.

This year I can say that the Bills are fielding a much better team.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

that’s my concern too. The Steelers just played two defenses that can rush the QB a lot better than us, and so reverted to quick passes. 
 

If we can’t put pressure on Ben (likely) and can’t stop the run (we are getting better but there are still holes), that really opens up their offense.

 

 

it does seem like the drops are a pattern. Not sure if Bens short game comes out too hot, if it’s slightly inaccurate or off target or something else. 
 

sooo many drops by The outside WRs, Ebron, etc... 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

This game to me right now has a "get right" feel for the Steelers and a back down to earth/learning opportunity for the bills

 

By Sunday ill believe Bills by a billion

[wjag]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I have seen just about every Steeler game this year. The last two weeks is not a good indicator of anything. Prior to that, they ran a lot more longer developing and deep routes— like the Ben of old. That was when guys like Claypool were catching 4 TDs per game. I have to guess they will revert to that. 
 

i am Not saying we will Lose. But I think people who are expecting an anemic, short passing game are assuming that the Steelers will bring their C game. 

Yeah.  I'm sure of that passing attack was in deference to the Washington DLINE and the push they generate with four guys.

[Doc Brown]

Not loving the weather forecast.  #fordfieldbubble

[PaattMaann]

23 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

This game to me right now has a "get right" feel for the Steelers and a back down to earth/learning opportunity for the bills

 

By Sunday ill believe Bills by a billion

 

we are not the team to "get right" against

[Stank_Nasty]

49 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I have seen just about every Steeler game this year. The last two weeks is not a good indicator of anything. Prior to that, they ran a lot more longer developing and deep routes— like the Ben of old. That was when guys like Claypool were catching 4 TDs per game. I have to guess they will revert to that. 
 

i am Not saying we will Lose. But I think people who are expecting an anemic, short passing game are assuming that the Steelers will bring their C game. 

Ben was still only 24th in YPA as recently as 2 weeks ago. he's now even worse at 29th. He was choosing his shots early but they still weren't asking him to throw down the field in the first half of the season.

 

 

 

 

Sidenote. heres 8 of the 12 qb's the Steelers have faced to this point. Backups/Rookies on bad teams.

 

Jones

Driscal

Wentz

Gilbert

Lutton

Burrow

Griffin/Mcsorley

Smith

 

LOOK AT THAT LIST.... 

Edited December 8, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[Mango]

Based on the standings now, if the Bills beat the Dolphins and Steelers they will finish the season 5-2 against playoff teams. That is pretty remarkable. 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Not loving the weather forecast.  #fordfieldbubble

 

I see 40s, rain, 10-15 mph wind. 

 

That ain't too bad for a December 13th in Buffalo.

[RichRiderBills]

50 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

that’s my concern too. The Steelers just played two defenses that can rush the QB a lot better than us, and so reverted to quick passes. 
 

If we can’t put pressure on Ben (likely) and can’t stop the run (we are getting better but there are still holes), that really opens up their offense.

 

 

 

The Bills are 13th in sacks and get good pressure on QBs. The hurry pressure stats are even better. They rank ahead of Baltimore, epc a Raven team without Judon. Sure Washington is better than us. They also play against the olines and QBs in the NFCE .

 

The Bills have a decent pass rush.

 

The Steelers are near the bottom of the league in rushing.

 

 

Edited December 8, 2020 by RichRiderBills

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, Bferra13 said:

 

Crapped the bed last year late at 8 and 3. I just think they come out and pound the piggs then the skys the limit this year. Im sure the confidence is pretty high in that locker room right now. The culture may already be changed, but the national perception of, "same old Bills" is still there. Prove em all wrong i say. 

 

It will take a Superbowl win for casuals to "respect" the Bills.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I hate to be a downer about this game, but I think James Connor is coming back, and so will expect the steelers to be able to run the ball a lot better.  Pouncey will be back too. 

[Mat68]

6 hours ago, Process said:

Annoying that Washington beat them. Would have been nice to see the Bills hand them their first loss.

If Buffalo wins Sunday they have an outside shot at the #2 seed.  Pits still have to play Indy and Cle.  That loss was big for seeding.  Whats more important?  Giving the Steelers there first L or playing the 7th seed and possibly hosting multiple playoff games.

Edited December 8, 2020 by Mat68

[machine gun kelly]

7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

I’ve been unafraid of this game all season, believing Pittsburgh is a Paper Tiger. -OK, not as good as advertised. What we did last season -blaring their ‘fight song’ during the weeklong practices- says we are a prepared team every week.

 I hope McBeane as they both have a hand in this one do the same darn thing.  When I coached, I used to balance teaching not to be afraid balanced with having fun so the players wouldn’t get too tense.  There is a fine line and McD knows it far better than me or the guys I coached.  The psyche and making sure they have fun in practice balancing fun, execution, staying in you’re lane, and a rip their hearts out attitude will show up, and yes, that is coaching.  People underestimate sometimes how important the balancing act is in coaching.  If McD, Beane, Daboll (he’s going to have fun in his evil mad scientist dungeon), and Frazier (taking a play out of Remember the Titans playbook).

 

 

 

Starts at 1:50 in for the scene that makes me want to rip the heads off the whining Stillers.

[RichRiderBills]

57 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Ben was still only 24th in YPA as recently as 2 weeks ago. he's now even worse at 29th. He was choosing his shots early but they still weren't asking him to throw down the field in the first half of the season.

 

 

 

 

Sidenote. heres 8 of the 12 qb's the Steelers have faced to this point. Backups/Rookies on bad teams.

 

Jones

Driscal

Wentz

Gilbert

Lutton

Burrow

Griffin/Mcsorley

Smith

 

LOOK AT THAT LIST.... 

 

Hey this is spot on. Its also a huge reason they are +11 in turnovers and this has driven their season. This is also why they've gotten sacks. 

[Stank_Nasty]

24 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Hey this is spot on. Its also a huge reason they are +11 in turnovers and this has driven their season. This is also why they've gotten sacks. 

i live on the outskirts of "stiller" country in Northwest PA and so i've watched a lot of them over my life. Its crazy to watch almost every tipped pass or forced fumble fall into their defenders hands over the last 2 seasons. its really odd....... also i hate them so freaking much!!!! i'm life right in the middle of Buff and Pitt. So its seriously hostile territory around here this week.

Edited December 8, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Not loving the weather forecast.  #fordfieldbubble

mid-30s and rainy.  Perfect night for football!!!

[ngbills]

I dont see the Steelers stopping this offense. Bills will score 30+ if they dont turn the ball over; I expect 1-2 turnovers and Bills score 27 points. The key will be limiting Pit to to under 27. They are gonna run the short, quick passes and hope for YAC. They are much better than SF at this and we saw SF burn the Bills a few times. 

Prediction

Bills 27

PIT 17

 

[Jauronimo]

5 hours ago, Wo-Bah said:

I am not writing off anyone the way our defense still gives up huge yardage plays.  I hate Ben R. (sorry, can't spell his name) but I think he can still throw the ball.  I do think, though, that our run defense has improved lately.

 

I do like this Bills team and they are easy to root for.  I just am expecting a tough game vs. the Steelers.

Its a mouthful so you got to break it down into small chunks. 

 

Ro-as in row a boat.  Eth - like a mike Tyson S.  Lis - like you had more now you have lis.  Finally, berger - as in hamburger.  Put it all together and you have Roethlisberger.  Ironically, its the feminine form of the word "consensual" in Bavarian.  Fun little fact.

[Success]

This should be a really fun game. The Steelers certainly don't scare me, but I respect what they've done this season, and both Ben and their defense have been playing well.

 

But it's a game I feel we should win. I don't feel like we're the underdog (though we are).  Can't wait.

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Not loving the weather forecast.  #fordfieldbubble

agreed. This is blasphemy,  but I wish we were playing all our home games in Arizona too. This passing game clicks on all cylinders in perfect weather conditions. The kicking game is great too. 

[NewEra]

13 minutes ago, Success said:

This should be a really fun game. The Steelers certainly don't scare me, but I respect what they've done this season, and both Ben and their defense have been playing well.

 

But it's a game I feel we should win. I don't feel like we're the underdog (though we are).  Can't wait.

 

The Steelers don’t scare me.  
 

TJ watt does though. Is he Joey Bosa good? Maybe, better.  Maybe not. He’s good enough to change the look of our offense and that’s what why we should worry about this team.  He’s been quite dominant 

[Success]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

The Steelers don’t scare me.  
 

TJ watt does though. Is he Joey Bosa good? Maybe, better.  Maybe not. He’s good enough to change the look of our offense and that’s what why we should worry about this team.  He’s been quite dominant 

 

It seemed like he was in on every play yesterday.  He's a total disruptor.

 

[NewEra]

Just saw the forecast.  High of 48 40% chance of rain with 10-20 mph winds.  31 degrees the following day, which could come early.  
 

I really enjoy watching this team play in a dome.  It’s gonna take while, we should get moving on this.

[machine gun kelly]

Rain nor snow bothers me.  Wind, I’m hoping stays at 10-20 mph, because as good as Big Ben is, and he still is that good, Allen is better.  As they say on fan duel, Make It Rain.  Rain hurts defenses and our WR’s will know how to make those guys miss.

[SWATeam]

1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said:

Rain nor snow bothers me.  Wind, I’m hoping stays at 10-20 mph, because as good as Big Ben is, and he still is that good, Allen is better.  As they say on fan duel, Make It Rain.  Rain hurts defenses and our WR’s will know how to make those guys miss.

Wind hurts us more, IMO.  Pitt passing game is mostly short quick stuff.

[machine gun kelly]

Swat, I get it, but Allen has proven he can throw short as well.  The real 7/11 is Beasley, not Hogan or Welker.  We also have if you can believe it a better running game than Pitt.  Lastly, I trust our new fully functioning line with Dawkins, Boettger, Morse, Feliciano, and Williams, over a Pouncy less Stillers line.  And if on the line, Allen can hit Diggs at 10 yards.

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Swat, I get it, but Allen has proven he can throw short as well.  The real 7/11 is Beasley, not Hogan or Welker.  We also have if you can believe it a better running game than Pitt.  Lastly, I trust our new fully functioning line with Dawkins, Boettger, Morse, Feliciano, and Williams, over a Pouncy less Stillers line.  And if on the line, Allen can hit Diggs at 10 yards.

Pouncey likely to be pulled off along without Connor.  That Pittsburgh run game has been horrendous with them out.  

[YoloinOhio]

 

[stevewin]

7 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

I actually prefer playing this team after a loss (particularly the type they had).  I think they could def have been playing hard because of the perfect record.  Now that its slipped away I think they have another let down game.  Oakland just had  2 let down games (Greggo bailing them out of 2 losses) after that heartbreaking loss to the Chiefs.  Even though they are pros these type of let downs happen (also short week so any hangovers eat a bigger chunk of time).  

I agree - after a couple crappy outings some doubt has to be creeping in vs an invincible undefeated feeling.  There's more pressure on them than ever

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I mean I'd find it hilarious but no reason to give them extra motivation.

[Punching Bag]

7 hours ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

Bud Dupree is a huge loss for the Steelers as well. One small complaint I have with Daboll is that he doesn't give enough respect in the game plan to elite defensive line players on the opposing team. A few times per game, you'll see a Gabe Davis or Tyler Kroft being asked to single block a Joey Bosa/JJ Watt/Myles Garrett and these guys have had a huge impact and have wrecked or nearly wrecked the game. 

 

We've caught a break with Dupree out with that unfortunate injury and I like to see us chip or double block TJ Watt on every play. The Steelers defense is strong, but limiting Watt's impact gives us the best chance to score points. It sounds really simple, but we haven't been able to stop that level of elite edge talent over the past couple years and I hope we'll adjust.

 

I'd like to see Bates as 6th lineman helping double TJ Watt until he is worn down.

[Simon]

Joe Haden took a shot in the head yesterday and is in concussion protocol.

He is the Steelers best CB and there is no close second. If he's not back by Sunday it is a massive blow to the Stiller defense against every one of our offensive sets.

[stevewin]

6 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

- Big Ben has looked like the old king who dies at the beginning of the movie. He's a dinosaur back there, but I still would not underestimate him. I think we can put him down. 

The current Big Ben looks like an old version a Big Ben who ate the old Big Ben

[wjag]

13 minutes ago, stevewin said:

The current Big Ben looks like an old version a Big Ben who ate the old Big Ben

 

He had a fantastic play I saw yesterday.  The OLINE opened up right through center and a LB came in untouched.  Ben just spun away from the guy and the LB went sailing right by, .

[YoloinOhio]

The Steelers fans are already insufferable. I’m not going to make it through the week. The crying and whining over their schedule being moved around and complaining about the one loss ... just shut tf up. Bills had 2 games moved too that wasn’t their fault, and lost them both. You are not unique. 

[WideNine]

9 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

I’ve been unafraid of this game all season, believing Pittsburgh is a Paper Tiger. -OK, not as good as advertised. What we did last season -blaring their ‘fight song’ during the weeklong practices- says we are a prepared team every week.

 

This.

 

The Steelers play tough defense and do enough in each game to usually win. They remind me more of the current Bills in the sense they are usually well-prepared and well-coached.

 

I think this game will be a nail-biter, and Josh being able to escape to his comfortable right side of the field and extend plays will be less of a thing. AFC East teams already cheat to take away that side of the field - NE was the first to use that strategy. I expect it to be a much closer game. I think Pittsburgh leads the league in QB, sacks, hits, and pressures. I also know that they have been racking up the turnovers too.

 

We need to be able to run the ball to take some of the pressure off of Allen.

 

 

[Warcodered]