JerseyBills Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The Bills were the 1st team to beat the Chargers by double digits. With now 8 losses, that is pretty impressive on the Chargers part. The only other teams to not lose by double digits? The undefeated Steelers and 1 loss Chiefs. Just some context that these Chargers are not your average 3-8 team. They've been close in literally every game. We didn't trail for 1 second of this game, even with 3 turnovers in 7 plays. This was one of the worse performances by our O, just the sloppiness, the penalties and turnovers. YET we still overcame all that and got a commanding W over a pesky team. That to me shows a true Championship mentality on this team. When things aren't going as planned but you still keep your composure and come away with a W. 8-3 after 11 games. Fluke play away from 9-2.. 7 of those games were versus a team with winning record! Our record is proof that we're a very good team and we've proven we can hang with anyone. Can't WAIT to hand Pit their first loss. I have us pegged at 12-4 heading into the playoffs. 11 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 You should be posting over in the depressed-feeling fan's thread? 9 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: You should be posting over in the depressed-feeling fan's thread? I actually did. I tried to cheer the poor guy up. It makes me wonder, do ppl not watch other games? It is NOT easy to win in this league. Unless you're playing the God awful Jets 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. But the Bills stopped them at the one yard line. That counts. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. The end of the game was garbage time potential 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. They stopped a garbage time TD . That doesn't take away from the fact that Buf controlled the whole game, never trailed for 1 second. I guess that was my whole point. This LAC team has taken the Chiefs,Bucs and Saints to the wire. Even if they score there, it wouldn't have left them enough time to get an onside kick and another score. This team is no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 so do we give them a pass or should we be depressed, or both? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jobot said: The end of the game was garbage time potential Well that is true, it is also "garbage" to boast that we won by double digits but that is just my opinion. And i recall the garbage time to end the Arizona game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Some fans will never be happy unless the Bills beat every opponent by 20+ points, and have 600 yards of total offense. All while keeping the opponents to 10 points or less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: The Bills were the 1st team to beat the Chargers by double digits. With now 8 losses, that is pretty impressive on the Chargers part. The only other teams to not lose by double digits? The undefeated Steelers and 1 loss Chiefs. Just some context that these Chargers are not your average 3-8 team. They've been close in literally every game. We didn't trail for 1 second of this game, even with 3 turnovers in 7 plays. This was one of the worse performances by our O, just the sloppiness, the penalties and turnovers. YET we still overcame all that and got a commanding W over a pesky team. That to me shows a true Championship mentality on this team. When things aren't going as planned but you still keep your composure and come away with a W. 8-3 after 11 games. Fluke play away from 9-2.. 7 of those games were versus a team with winning record! Our record is proof that we're a very good team and we've proven we can hang with anyone. Can't WAIT to hand Pit their first loss. I have us pegged at 12-4 heading into the playoffs. I think we all know that this is a good Bills team that can make the playoffs. The bigger concern is what happens in the playoffs and whether the Bills are a “great” team. The Bills have made the playoffs on 2 out of the past 3 seasons, after going nearly 20 seasons without ever getting that far - so the standards are raised. Making the playoffs is nice, but it isn’t good enough like it was a few years ago. I think the concern is if this teams turns the ball over 3 times in 7 plays against a better opponent like they’ll face in the postseason. It almost certainly means they’d lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Buffalo was up 7 with 5 minutes left chargers had the ball. We should’ve already been up two scores if the offense could’ve pulled their head out of their collective rear ends. This take sums it up for me Wins are hard, and we didn’t have them for years, so I appreciate and enjoy all 8 of them. I can at the same time be frustrated that the only thing between this team and real super bowl contention is consistency. Most think we are a year away. I don’t. The only thing holding us back is us. Our execution and mental focus. I’ll take the 8-3 record but I want more because we have the talent to get more now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said: Some fans will never be happy unless the Bills beat every opponent by 20+ points, and have 600 yards of total offense. All while keeping the opponents to 10 points or less. With an actual good coach and some talent and players who wanted to win, that hypothetical team that has never existed could have 30+ pts, 750 yards of total offense while shutting out the opponents. Sorry, I'm just a hypothetical realist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 52 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I actually did. I tried to cheer the poor guy up. It makes me wonder, do ppl not watch other games? It is NOT easy to win in this league. Unless you're playing the God awful Jets 😂 Truly. I usually watch a few games a week and I see the same mistakes in nearly every single game, including from the "elite" teams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. mattered to the betters who took the Chargers and the points. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. Yeah we were 6inches from it possibly ending in a 2point win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Well that is true, it is also "garbage" to boast that we won by double digits but that is just my opinion. And i recall the garbage time to end the Arizona game as well. AZ was a 1 possession game though. Huge difference. My point was that we controlled the whole 60 minutes vs a very pesky team, capable of playing with basically anybody in this league. 5 minutes ago, MJS said: Truly. I usually watch a few games a week and I see the same mistakes in nearly every single game, including from the "elite" teams. Exactly. Same here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: The Bills were the 1st team to beat the Chargers by double digits. With now 8 losses, that is pretty impressive on the Chargers part. The only other teams to not lose by double digits? The undefeated Steelers and 1 loss Chiefs. Just some context that these Chargers are not your average 3-8 team. They've been close in literally every game. We didn't trail for 1 second of this game, even with 3 turnovers in 7 plays. This was one of the worse performances by our O, just the sloppiness, the penalties and turnovers. YET we still overcame all that and got a commanding W over a pesky team. That to me shows a true Championship mentality on this team. When things aren't going as planned but you still keep your composure and come away with a W. 8-3 after 11 games. Fluke play away from 9-2.. 7 of those games were versus a team with winning record! Our record is proof that we're a very good team and we've proven we can hang with anyone. Can't WAIT to hand Pit their first loss. I have us pegged at 12-4 heading into the playoffs. are you some kind of troublemaker ? (sarcasm) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) I see SLOW MOTION game ending long hail mary passes sailing across my bedroom all night long, none are knocked down and every one is a perfect catch....Its really keeping me up.....no sleep There goes another one......Noooooooooooooo Edited November 30, 2020 by HOUSE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, wjag said: mattered to the betters who took the Chargers and the points. 🙂 You go that right!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Buffalo was up 7 with 5 minutes left chargers had the ball. We should’ve already been up two scores if the offense could’ve pulled their head out of their collective rear ends. This take sums it up for me Wins are hard, and we didn’t have them for years, so I appreciate and enjoy all 8 of them. I can at the same time be frustrated that the only thing between this team and real super bowl contention is consistency. Most think we are a year away. I don’t. The only thing holding us back is us. Our execution and mental focus. I’ll take the 8-3 record but I want more because we have the talent to get more now. What more do you want? We're a fluke play from 9-2. We played 7 winning teams. I'll watch the Bills win ugly all the way to the Super Bowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Whkfc said: Yeah we were 6inches from it possibly ending in a 2point win. Two inches, the snap between Morse and Allen doesn't get fumbled. Two inches and the hail Mary doesn't get caught. There are a hundred of these in every game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: You should be posting over in the depressed-feeling fan's thread? 😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: The Bills were the 1st team to beat the Chargers by double digits. With now 8 losses, that is pretty impressive on the Chargers part. The only other teams to not lose by double digits? The undefeated Steelers and 1 loss Chiefs. Just some context that these Chargers are not your average 3-8 team. They've been close in literally every game. We didn't trail for 1 second of this game, even with 3 turnovers in 7 plays. This was one of the worse performances by our O, just the sloppiness, the penalties and turnovers. YET we still overcame all that and got a commanding W over a pesky team. That to me shows a true Championship mentality on this team. When things aren't going as planned but you still keep your composure and come away with a W. 8-3 after 11 games. Fluke play away from 9-2.. 7 of those games were versus a team with winning record! Our record is proof that we're a very good team and we've proven we can hang with anyone. Can't WAIT to hand Pit their first loss. I have us pegged at 12-4 heading into the playoffs. Keep in mind that the Chargers' stud RB, Austin Ekeler, missed 6 games this season and they still went 2-4 over that stretch with the four losses coming by a 4.25 point avg. This was a quality win. Savor it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: Keep in mind that the Chargers' stud RB, Austin Ekeler, missed 6 games this season and they still went 2-4 over that stretch with the four losses coming by a 4.25 point avg. This was a quality win. Savor it. Yes! Exactly. And it's not like they had a solid #2 RB . Ekler is clearly on another level. Another reason, like you said, was a quality win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It was a win with some good and some bad. It was a win against a flawed west coast team playing on the east coast. Bills D appeared to play better but Herbert also was off target early and often. Other than one 30 yard run, they seemed to defend the run well. D had some nice stops after the turnovers. People seem to think Edmunds played better. I didn't see it though. Very few impact plays. Missed knocking the ball down on the TD pass. I didn't see him make any big mistakes in the run game. The long run given up was Klein's hole and terrible run support by White. Bills rushed the passer reasonably well. They did not pass block well at all. It was hard to tell on TV but I suspect they were defending the deep ball and doubling Diggs. Allen and Daboll adjusted reasonably well. Sitting Murphy was a fine decision as Epenesa played ok and should benefit from the increased snaps. Sitting Kroft for Gilliam still made no sense. Not sure why Josh Norman didn't get more snaps. I like Levi but I would have guessed they would have rotated Norman in there for a few drives. Also unsure why he was not on the filed for the hail mary. Tauron Johnson looks like the smallest DB on the team and Norman is the tallest I think. They had both Klein and Edmuinds on th efield for the 4th and forever. Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. They got the extra point back with the 2 point conversion they made and they was stopped at the goalline after a dumb luck 50 yard pass over 4 defenders. Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 For some people: Sunday at 4:05 pm Today after this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 We were a pass interference call away from being 7-4. (Rams game). We were a fumble away from possibly being 6-5 (NE game). So fluke plays, penalties etc. comes out in wash. I'll take 8-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Bartender: "Don't you think you've had enough?" Arthur: "I want more than enough." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 6 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I actually did. I tried to cheer the poor guy up. It makes me wonder, do ppl not watch other games? It is NOT easy to win in this league. Unless you're playing the God awful Jets 😂 Jets took the patriots aka 'the team thats apparently going to go on a magical run and knock us out of the playoffs' down to the wire haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 6 hours ago, JerseyBills said: The Bills were the 1st team to beat the Chargers by double digits. With now 8 losses, that is pretty impressive on the Chargers part. The only other teams to not lose by double digits? The undefeated Steelers and 1 loss Chiefs. Just some context that these Chargers are not your average 3-8 team. They've been close in literally every game. We didn't trail for 1 second of this game, even with 3 turnovers in 7 plays. This was one of the worse performances by our O, just the sloppiness, the penalties and turnovers. YET we still overcame all that and got a commanding W over a pesky team. That to me shows a true Championship mentality on this team. When things aren't going as planned but you still keep your composure and come away with a W. 8-3 after 11 games. Fluke play away from 9-2.. 7 of those games were versus a team with winning record! Our record is proof that we're a very good team and we've proven we can hang with anyone. Can't WAIT to hand Pit their first loss. I have us pegged at 12-4 heading into the playoffs. Thanks. Some Bills "fans" would nitpick the style of a superbowl victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I'm upset that I had to change my underwear late in the fourth qtr. I had a lot of money on the Bills -4.5. That backdoor cover would've killed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 hours ago, JerseyBills said: AZ was a 1 possession game though. Huge difference. My point was that we controlled the whole 60 minutes vs a very pesky team, capable of playing with basically anybody in this league. Exactly. Same here!! Were no Kansas city chiefs though so our team isn't good haha thats all this is. If we were winning games like our game against the rams every week where we gave up a big lead then needed a miraculous game winning drive to win the game id be more inclined to agree with these people but alot of these games have been comfortable victories that made people nervous because of painful flashbacks of past bills teams blowing games 🤣 we wouldve had two wins like that if we had pulled out the cardinals game which seems pretty average and would not be enough to classify most of our wins as magical unsustainable wins lol the dolphins game we went down late in the 3rd quarter and immediately took the lead back if im remembering correctly. Not to mention that ridiculous rams comeback was aided by one of the worst calls in nfl history lol. Were not any luckier than any other team...fumbled bounced our way in the pats game...we got a tricky tack pi call in the rams game...but also on the flipside we got beat by an absurd hail mary in the cardinals game. The chargers hail mary was not even remotely close to the cardinals one...it didn't reach the end zone and they had to race down the field to either spike the ball or run a play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: It was a win with some good and some bad. It was a win against a flawed west coast team playing on the east coast. Bills D appeared to play better but Herbert also was off target early and often. Other than one 30 yard run, they seemed to defend the run well. D had some nice stops after the turnovers. People seem to think Edmunds played better. I didn't see it though. Very few impact plays. Missed knocking the ball down on the TD pass. I didn't see him make any big mistakes in the run game. The long run given up was Klein's hole and terrible run support by White. Bills rushed the passer reasonably well. They did not pass block well at all. It was hard to tell on TV but I suspect they were defending the deep ball and doubling Diggs. Allen and Daboll adjusted reasonably well. Sitting Murphy was a fine decision as Epenesa played ok and should benefit from the increased snaps. Sitting Kroft for Gilliam still made no sense. Not sure why Josh Norman didn't get more snaps. I like Levi but I would have guessed they would have rotated Norman in there for a few drives. Also unsure why he was not on the filed for the hail mary. Tauron Johnson looks like the smallest DB on the team and Norman is the tallest I think. They had both Klein and Edmuinds on th efield for the 4th and forever. Makes no sense. I agree with most of this. 1 thing I'd like to add input to is the Edmunds conversation. He has been a different player since Seattle. I'm assuming his shoulder or arm fully healed around that time. And Klein has benefited big time. As will Milano. Klein is a great blitzer . Your other points, I see where you're coming from, but don't necessarily agree with.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. Excuses for the opponent, but none for the Bills, that seems to be a theme for many here, win or lose.. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 hours ago, mattynh said: so do we give them a pass or should we be depressed, or both? I'm gonna go for neither, myself. I'm gonna stay happy that we won the game, and feel they need to dig into some stuff and correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Excuses for the opponent, but none for the Bills, that seems to be a theme for many here, win or lose.. Go Bills!!! Excuses? No excuses for either team, we won the game, a win is a win, period. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 21 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I appreciate the optimism but the fact we beat them by "double digits" imo is one of the most meaningless stats of all time. They missed an extra point and were stopped at the one yard line as time expired, it was hardly felt like a "double digit " type win in the last 4 minutes of the game. when you give up the ball 3 times late in a game and you still win by double digits, it's not a bad thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, teef said: when you give up the ball 3 times late in a game and you still win by double digits, it's not a bad thing. Obviously. As I said, a win is a win. Be it by 1 or double digits doesn't matter to me. But if you want to discuss qualitatively/analytically, one has to recognize the Chargers decision making was laughable at the end. A lengthy huddle and running the ball with under a minute and no time outs or how about the last beautiful play of the game, Herbert went in a for QB sneak while the O Line appeared to be setting up for pass protection. Yes we won by double digits but we were assisted. If I am on Charger fan i say we lost by double digits due to our own inherent bad decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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