cgg716 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Allen wasn't great tonight... but this is clearly a team that will always have to overcome Mcdermott's gutless tendencies when it matters. Always. Great season, potential long term problem in coaching 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Weatherman said: Offense carried the D all year. This is the worst Bills defense I can remember. Can you not remember Rex's defenses then... they were only 4 and 5 years ago? What about Wannatasche? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 This gameplan wreeks of early McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, Weatherman said: Offense carried the D all year. This is the worst Bills defense I can remember. and you made this assessment after just watching them play against the Best Offense in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am SO PISSED ABOUT THIS GAME. I could have handled the loss, If we played our game. Instead we get a SCARED coaching display. What I saw today I saw from every other Bills coaching staff for 2 Decades against NE. Its a fair point. Objectively speaking at least one of those earlier FGs should have been gone for on 4th down like had been done all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Can you not remember Rex's defenses then... they were only 4 and 5 years ago? What about Wannatasche? I miss the glory days of Keith Ellison and Kiwaukee "Admiral Ackbar" Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, london_bills said: Its a fair point. Objectively speaking at least one of those earlier FGs should have been gone for on 4th down like had been done all season The First Should have. The Second should have as well. Though if you make the right call before the half that second one the Math likely would have said take the FG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Whatever the game plan was - it wouldn’t have been worse if there were NO game plan. It was comically bad management. This game was lost on Wednesday. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Winner winner chicken dinner. No killer instinct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeDudeAtHome Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am SO PISSED ABOUT THIS GAME. I could have handled the loss, If we played our game. Instead we get a SCARED coaching display. What I saw today I saw from every other Bills coaching staff for 2 Decades against NE. 2 forth downs in the redzone that Allen almost absolutely gets running with his legs. Tie game and everything changes. Instead McDermott goes back to kicking field goals. ***** him for that but he is still a good coach and learning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The First Should have. The Second should have as well. Though if you make the right call before the half that second one the Math likely would have said take the FG. Started the game going for a 4th down aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 McDermott loves those field goals 🤮🤮🤮 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Way too early to write off McD at this point. The Chiefs are a better team, and the things the Bills tried to do didn't work. C'est la vie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, BITE ME said: Winner winner chicken dinner. No killer instinct. Did you seriously dig up a months old thread to bash McD? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, cgg716 said: Allen wasn't great tonight... but this is clearly a team that will always have to overcome Mcdermott's gutless tendencies when it matters. Always. Great season, potential long term problem in coaching May have not been his best game, but he was the entire offense. The WRs were blanketed and was easily the Olines worst game of the year. Daboll choked in the red zone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I mean two of our 4 losses this year weren't on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: May have not been his best game, but he was the entire offense. The WRs were blanketed and was easily the Olines worst game of the year. Daboll choked in the red zone. Where were the man beaters? Bunch formations and rubs and shallow crossers to get guys open against blanket man coverage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: May have not been his best game, but he was the entire offense. The WRs were blanketed and was easily the Olines worst game of the year. Daboll choked in the red zone. Agree with that assessment. Way more concerned with McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Did you seriously dig up a months old thread to bash McD? Yes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Blow it up and start over. /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Not going on 4th and shorts was a bad decision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 McD does a good job at learning from mistakes when you give him time to digest it. I’m not worried long term, but it frustrated the hell outta me when they didn’t change anything or try something else out when the “soft zone” wasn’t working. Coaches are their own worst enemies in the moment with their egos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Hopefully McDermott learns from this. Everyone knows you don’t beat KC kicking field goals. Especially when both 4th downs were short yardage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Can you not remember Rex's defenses then... they were only 4 and 5 years ago? What about Wannatasche? 100% but they didn’t do nearly enough today. Douche Kelce and the child beater killed them. It was eye opening. Milano was easily exploited all day, we had no pass rush and Tre was not great either. Obviously KC is elite but we need more. I think Star opting out hurt our scheme all year and we mostly made the best of it. I’m not sure where we can get the following: An elite pass rusher Some solidification/depth on the DL in the middle. Is that Star? Better linebackers. I am very pro Edmunds and Milano has a place but not at the price he will require. Drafting someone there would be my preference. On O we’re pretty clearly generally in good shape. I worry about Brown’s longevity and the run blocking. A legit TE wouldn’t hurt. We’re better than almost every team in the league but a few steps behind KC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 No killer instinct...despite first playoff appearance in years, now first AFC championship in years... Yeah maybe we should just cut our losses, and I don’t know, give Josh McDaniels or somebody a ring. Board is going to be madness this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, BITE ME said: Winner winner chicken dinner. No killer instinct. The body isn't even cold yet.... WTF..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Worstcaseontario said: Not going on 4th and shorts was a bad decision So instead of losing by 14, you'd been happier losing by 20 or 23? Do you actually feel like the Bills could have completed a pass or ran the ball to score? From what I saw tonight, the odds were very low of that happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 FGs baby.......just kick FGs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The FG from the 2 yard line was bad. The other decision was to go for 2 down 17. you kick the XP to make it a two score game. When the Bills failed the try, it became a 3 score game. It was worse when we recovered the onside kick. We had no chance down 3 scores. I keep waiting for McD to eliminate his game management mistakes. Well, there's always next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Warcodered said: and you made this assessment after just watching them play against the Best Offense in the NFL? Collectively all season. They had a couple games they played well but overall it was tough to watch. Last years D was light years ahead of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Check out KC receiving stats, the 2 guys we trying to shutdown had 290 of the 345 yards. Sickening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I cannot imagine what this team would have done without Josh. We better figure out how to give him better pass protection, a running game, and a better defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, BITE ME said: Yes. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Was a great year and learning experience for McD. Great year and a ton to build off of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: 100% but they didn’t do nearly enough today. Douche Kelce and the child beater killed them. It was eye opening. Milano was easily exploited all day, we had no pass rush and Tre was not great either. Obviously KC is elite but we need more. I think Star opting out hurt our scheme all year and we mostly made the best of it. I’m not sure where we can get the following: An elite pass rusher Some solidification/depth on the DL in the middle. Is that Star? Better linebackers. I am very pro Edmunds and Milano has a place but not at the price he will require. Drafting someone there would be my preference. On O we’re pretty clearly generally in good shape. I worry about Brown’s longevity and the run blocking. A legit TE wouldn’t hurt. We’re better than almost every team in the league but a few steps behind KC. Largely agree. We need a difference maker in the front 7 and we don't have one and our one elite difference maker on the backend - Tre - is not a good matchup against their best guy in Hill. So where against some other teams we can lock Tre on to their #1 and then play 10 v 10 we don't even have that option against KC. It's a puzzle but one I believe our staff have earned enough credit to be trusted to solve... or get closer at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Made some questionable decisions tonight. I go for the TDs when down in Red Zone. No way you are going to beat KC with fgs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: So instead of losing by 14, you'd been happier losing by 20 or 23? Do you actually feel like the Bills could have completed a pass or ran the ball to score? From what I saw tonight, the odds were very low of that happening. The odds were low but that doesn't change the fact that you can't trade TDs for FGs against a team you can't stop. Sometimes you gotta go all in even when the odds are against you. I thought McD made some bad decisions tonight but I also don't think that's why we lost. Sometimes you just tip your hat to a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) In regards to Mcdermott and Allen, I think we are better off looking at both of them as very good rather than elite.. until they perform elitely in the elite games. Most other teams would want them but yesterday was a reminder of what elite is. Edited January 25, 2021 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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