MClem06 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Mine are LB spot opposite of Milano #1 CB opposite of Trey Day #2 (I acould see us grabbing more than one with our picks) Best available Run Blocking Offensive Guard/Tackle #3 (some would argue this should be first or second) Never would have thought this time last year that our defensive needs outweigh the offensive needs. Would be amazing to get a big splash TE in free agency if there are any coming up that position has sucked for us this year. Knox hasn't panned out yet and kroft's consistency is suspect. Feel free to chime in with your draft top 3 and maybe a few free agent names that will hit the market in your perceived pos. of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 LB, CB and TE. I'm on a work break so don't have much time but the draft name at TE that I like is Kyle Pitts from Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Free agency comes first. Have no idea until after that 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 RB, LB and TE....the 2021 draft is deep in all 3, so there's no excuses this time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sweats said: RB, LB and TE....the 2021 draft is deep in all 3, so there's no excuses this time. I haven't given up on our RBs. Our ability to pass the ball this year has taken us away from the run. I'd make defense be the focus for the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1. DE - Ideally a talented pass rusher falls into our laps with that first pick.. Someone we can plug into RDE opposite of AJ Epenesa whom I feel will be a talented pass rusher for us.. We’d have Daryl Johnson rotating in but would still be in dire need of depth.. will Jerry Hughes take a pay cut? 2. LB - Ideally you sign Milano to a one year prove it deal.. you decline Edmunds’ 5th year option and the two compete for an extension next year.. Draft a smart cerebral type of MLB who can play chess against some of the top QBs in the NFL.. Someone who can stop the run and get our defenses in the right formations.. 3. C/G - Feliciano can play either guard or center.. I think you dump Morse’s contract.. very expensive and he’s at risk of being permanently injured and out of the NFL.. We can get out of his contract in 2021 and we should do so.. Take the best interior OL prospect available here.. Draft even more depth later on.. (Still need: NT, return man/speed WR, CB, CB, more OL depth) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sweats said: RB, LB and TE....the 2021 draft is deep in all 3, so there's no excuses this time. I think we need a big body in the middle and go DT early too. But FA will determine the order. Mine is LB/DT/TE/CB/RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Pass rusher. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. After that a 1tech DT, a corner #2 and TE #1 are both on the list as is another linebacker, a safety and a speed receiver. A lot will depend on how many of last year's uninspiring crop of FAs they are willing to move on from. Norman was only a 1 year deal, as is Brian Winters and (in reality) Vernon Butler's. Addison and Klein cost money to get out of.... but that will affect how they approach this year's free agency and, critically as a consequence, how they approach the draft. Edited November 23, 2020 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Pass rusher. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. After that a 1tech DT, a corner #2 and TE #1 are both on the list as is another linebacker, a safety and a speed receiver. A lot will depend on how many of last year's uninspiring crop of FAs they are willing to move on from. Wallace was only a 1 year deal, as is Brian Winters and (in reality) Vernon Butler's. Addison and Klein cost money to get out of.... but that will affect how they approach this year's free agency and, critically as a consequence, how they approach the draft. Wallace wasn’t really a 1 year deal. He was a UDFA, which means he’s a RFA every year until he reaches his the proper amount of service time and the Bills just have to tender him a contract at the minimum threshold to retain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Right tackle- Can't afford williams.....obviously my assumption Edge- Everyone we have is thirty plus minus johsnon and epenesa Safety- Sneaky need but Hyde isn't getting younger Linebacker- Not sure how this plays out in the offseason but we have Klein who has basically started all year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, JGMcD2 said: Wallace wasn’t really a 1 year deal. He was a UDFA, which means he’s a RFA every year until he reaches his the proper amount of service time and the Bills just have to tender him a contract at the minimum threshold to retain him. Sorry I wrote Wallace when I meant Norman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 db, lb, de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: I think we need a big body in the middle and go DT early too. But FA will determine the order. Mine is LB/DT/TE/CB/RB. Don’t forget that Star Lotulelei will be back.. that will be a huge boon to our DL.. but of course we could use another hog to plug into that DL.. Dalvin Tomlinson in free agency would be a solid option.. dump Butler, Jefferson, Addison and Hughes.. draft a DE with that 1st pick and we’re cooking.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Under the doomsday cap scenario, I think we move on from Morse/Milano & use that money to re-sign Feliciano/Williams. C/G LB WR (Speed is essential to this offense) I'm rolling with Knox next year unless Pitts or Freiermuth are somehow in our range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Pass Rush. O-line. DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 DE LB DB Entire draft should be defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MClem06 said: Mine are LB spot opposite of Milano #1 CB opposite of Trey Day #2 (I acould see us grabbing more than one with our picks) Best available Run Blocking Offensive Guard/Tackle #3 (some would argue this should be first or second) Never would have thought this time last year that our defensive needs outweigh the offensive needs. Would be amazing to get a big splash TE in free agency if there are any coming up that position has sucked for us this year. Knox hasn't panned out yet and kroft's consistency is suspect. Feel free to chime in with your draft top 3 and maybe a few free agent names that will hit the market in your perceived pos. of need. DE - Kwity Paye, Michigan TE - Pat Freiermuth - Penn State CB - Asante Samuel Jr. Fl State Those would be the targets in the first round based on our current draft position. Second Round DE - Xavier Thomas - Clemson TE - Brevin Jordan - MIA CB - Tyreke Johnson - Ohio St Third Round DE - Patrick Jones II - Pitt TE - Jake Ferguson - WI CB - TJ Carter - Memphis Edited November 23, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I see Rb, Defense, Te as needs not in any order. I think they could add a first rd player at any level of defense. Im looking at this from a first rd perspective. I think Etinne or Harris would be in play late first rd. Would have good value. Possibly, the kid from Fl or Ferimuth could be in discussion too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 LB - We just aren't deep enough NT - We need someone about 6'6" inches tall and just as wide. ST'er - McBeane tends to like ST players that can't play a regular position or do anything other than play on teams, lets get a 7'0" tall guy who failed at Basketball because he couldn't shoot the ball. Said player could stand on the goal line on hail Mary situations and line up to block FG's and XP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: Free agency comes first. Have no idea until after that we would not be a big participant in FA as we don't have much cap space and we have to sign RT Williams, possibly allocate cash for Josh Allen and get a replacement for Milano 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Pass rusher. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. After that a 1tech DT, a corner #2 and TE #1 are both on the list as is another linebacker, a safety and a speed receiver. A lot will depend on how many of last year's uninspiring crop of FAs they are willing to move on from. Norman was only a 1 year deal, as is Brian Winters and (in reality) Vernon Butler's. Addison and Klein cost money to get out of.... but that will affect how they approach this year's free agency and, critically as a consequence, how they approach the draft. While I agree we need a true game breaking DE that can take over, I fear because we've invested so heavily this past offseason that we will ignore the position this offseason. My needs are; A true MLB 1 tech DT #2 corner We have some depth needs at guard and if we lose Darryl Williams RT shoots to the top of the needs list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 TE, LB, DE. I'd say DT but Star will be back to be the 1T, and CB is a need but I mean for more in the slot. Levi, Dane, plus a FA can battle it out next year while you bring along another mid round pick at outside CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, DJB said: While I agree we need a true game breaking DE that can take over, I fear because we've invested so heavily this past offseason that we will ignore the position this offseason. My needs are; A true MLB 1 tech DT #2 corner We have some depth needs at guard and if we lose Darryl Williams RT shoots to the top of the needs list. Murphy is gone as UFA. All the contracts Beane handed out last offseason are cheap and easy to get out of if we decide to replace them (and we should). There is no way Beane can ignore the DE position this offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 They have needs, the only glaring need is LB if Milano leaves, the others are needs. The way they have put the roster together is they are positioned to take best player available. The caveat I would put on that in rounds 1-3 there are definitely value plays based on their cap hits under a rookie contract: Round 1: The value plays by position are QB, WR, OT, CB, DL (mostly pass rusher though DTs go high too). Bills don't need QB, WR, if they re-sign D. Williams they are good at OT, so it would be CB or DL Round 2: RBs can be of value, but this is where TE, OG and LB are fertile value ground Round 3: Any of the above that haven't been address, take best player available After round 3 it's best player at any position, stick to your board and pick the best one, probably best athlete with upside. Even though they will be picking low they should be able to get 3 good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 In terms of priority- 1. DT 2. DE 3. G 4. TE 5. DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, MClem06 said: Mine are LB spot opposite of Milano #1 CB opposite of Trey Day #2 (I acould see us grabbing more than one with our picks) Best available Run Blocking Offensive Guard/Tackle #3 (some would argue this should be first or second) Never would have thought this time last year that our defensive needs outweigh the offensive needs. Would be amazing to get a big splash TE in free agency if there are any coming up that position has sucked for us this year. Knox hasn't panned out yet and kroft's consistency is suspect. Feel free to chime in with your draft top 3 and maybe a few free agent names that will hit the market in your perceived pos. of need. Agree with LB and CB. O line depends on what happens with Williams and Feleciano. If they were to both come back then the line has their 5 starters, need goes way down. If anything I'd argue more for a center/guard in case Morse decides he's had enough in one more year or so. You seem to need to use high draft picks on O line if you want the guy to be an instant starter. Assuming Morse comes back at least for 2021, you can develop mid range picks into starters in year 2 to 3. I think with the money invested in White, you need a low cost option at #2 CB so would be in favor of drafting one there maybe in 2nd or 3rd. Probably look for LB late in the first, should still be someone good at #32. Could also get a good starting LB in FA too. I'd almost favor that and draft an Edge late in the 1st round, though not certain how well you can find one that late. Or even draft Star's replacement for 2022/23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'm honestly shocked how few people are saying DT. Its the number one need and probably not close, imo. DT TE LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Murphy is gone as UFA. All the contracts Beane handed out last offseason are cheap and easy to get out of if we decide to replace them (and we should). There is no way Beane can ignore the DE position this offseason. Hughes & Addison have been good this year. I'd be surprised if either is cut. We just used a 2nd Round Pick on Epenesa. I just don't see DE as a huge need next year. Now, the '22 Draft, i'd be scouting early round pass rushers for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, ganesh said: we would not be a big participant in FA as we don't have much cap space and we have to sign RT Williams, possibly allocate cash for Josh Allen and get a replacement for Milano Yes. We really don’t know what we’re going to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1. Pat Freiermuth-TE Penn State 2. Chazz Surratt-LB UNC 3. Jordan Smith-DE UAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: TE, LB, DE. I'd say DT but Star will be back to be the 1T, and CB is a need but I mean for more in the slot. Levi, Dane, plus a FA can battle it out next year while you bring along another mid round pick at outside CB. Star will be back so they don't need a guy to start at the 1tech but they need some depth there. What we have learnt this season so far is that the second best 1 tech on the roster after Star is a guy who was drafted to play 3 tech, weighs under 300 lbs and isn't a very good 1 tech. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Process said: I'm honestly shocked how few people are saying DT. Its the number one need and probably not close, imo. DT TE LB We already have our starters for next year in Star/Oliver. Even if we cut Harry, Jefferson and Butler, i'm completely fine drafting DT's in the mid-late rounds. Enough with the constant high picks on defense. We have: Jordan Poyer at S Tre White at CB Edmunds at MLB Oliver at DT Epenesa at DE That's 5 guys who are either recent high picks or recent pay day players. Figure it out.. I'll lose my mind if we draft a LB, DT and DE in the Top 100. LB will be a high priority if Milano leaves and with the growing list of TE weapons, drafting another linebacker high (especially when we only really play two of them) makes sense. DT, draft a rotational guy in the mid-rounds. DE, start scouting for a high pick in '22. Edited November 23, 2020 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: LB, CB and TE. I'm on a work break so don't have much time but the draft name at TE that I like is Kyle Pitts from Florida. Kyle Pitts is likely long gone by the time the Bills pick. The consensus right now is that the Bills will pick a CB with their first round pick. I agree they have needs at LB and TE in addition to CB. I think they need a good edge rusher too. Hughes and Addison are not going to last forever. Epenesa may develop as an all around defensive end, but he'll never be the athletic edge rusher Buffalo needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 BPA BPA BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, Process said: I'm honestly shocked how few people are saying DT. Its the number one need and probably not close, imo. DT TE LB Well.. you have to figure that Star will be back.. that helps a lot.. but to be honest, I’d like to see another big fat NT to plug in next to him.. People forget that Pat Williams, Sam Adams and Ted Washington did get a fair amount of pass rush.. sometimes 3 or 4 sacks a year... that’s a lot better than what Ed Oliver has done.. DTs that post 10 sacks a year or more are unicorns.. gimme another hog to plug in next to Star and watch our run defense go into the top 5.. Draft a DE RD1 and see if Hughes is willing to take a 50% pay cut.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Between Jackson, Wallace and Norman I think we have a solid #2 CB in there somewhere. We might have Gaines next year as well. Injuries have been the issue this year but I think on paper we are okay. I think in the next couple years we should look to replace Hyde with a young , stud safety. Edited November 23, 2020 by Process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Well.. you have to figure that Star will be back.. that helps a lot.. but to be honest, I’d like to see another big fat NT to plug in next to him.. People forget that Pat Williams, Sam Adams and Ted Washington did get a fair amount of pass rush.. sometimes 3 or 4 sacks a year... that’s a lot better than what Ed Oliver has done.. DTs that post 10 sacks a year or more are unicorns.. gimme another hog to plug in next to Star and watch our run defense go into the top 5.. Draft a DE RD1 and see if Hughes is willing to take a 50% pay cut.. thats not what this defensive scheme calls for, and that aint changing anytime soon. Now drafting a big fat NT to play behind Star/take over for him, im all about and think that is a very real need. But we wont see them next to each other very often, Maybe goal line situation or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 RB, DL, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: BPA BPA BPA We are in desperate need of BPA depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 DE - Bills really need an impact DE on the edge TE - Kroft is a decent stop gap but doesn't really threaten a team, as deep as this years TE class the Bills could really land a good one DL (1 tech)- was torn between G or a 1 Tech DL as this is more of a hole right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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