Big Turk Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Allen has dramatically increased his on target percentage this year, ranking third in the NFL behind only Drew Brees(84.2%) and Teddy Bridgewater(83.5%) at 81.4%. Last year he was 21st in this metric at 73.2%. Even more impressive is that Allen's average Intended Air Yards are significantly higher than either Bridgewater or Brees. Allen's average pass travels 8.5 yards, tied for 9th highest in the NFL while Bridgewater's average is 6.7, good for 28th and Brees is dead last in the NFL at 5.5. These QB's are throwing a lot more checkdowns and other assorted quick throws than Allen is, which have a much higher completion percentage. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I think we finally have the heir to James Kelly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 And all the mensa's said qbs can't improve their accuracy. Josh is shattering all these misconceptions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Danger Russ and Kirk Cousins (not nearly as many attempts for him though) also have an interesting blend of High On Target and High Air Yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) He's having a fantastic 3rd year and it's a lot of fun to watch. Even in the Jets and Pats games, though the scoreboard was not exactly on fire, I thought Josh was very accurate and took what the D gave him. He's starting to figure out how to win those games after being surprised by the Titans. IMO his performance vs the Seahawks made it clear as day we finally have the QB we've all been waiting for since JK retired in 1996. I still remember watching that press conference on t.v. and thinking how I couldn't wait for them to plug in the next QB and get to winning games again. Apparently it just ain't that easy. But, finally, that time has arrived. Edited November 10, 2020 by Distorted One 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said: I think we finally have the heir to James Kelly. Allen threw for more yards on Sunday than Kelly ever did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Not 1 MVP vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Not 1 MVP vote. You’re definitely right. There’s a 0% chance Josh gets any type of MVP love this year. I just don’t see the voters doing it. Mahomes, Wilson and Rodgers will get the love. Not that it’s wrong or anything... Josh just won’t get that recognition even if he deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Guess who we should planning which QB we are taking in the first round next year. There is a wise saying: If you ain't first, you're last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Allen threw for more yards on Sunday than Kelly ever did Apples and oranges as they played in different eras. Kelly had 403 in the infamous “no punt” game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: You’re definitely right. There’s a 0% chance Josh gets any type of MVP love this year. I just don’t see the voters doing it. Mahomes, Wilson and Rodgers will get the love. Not that it’s wrong or anything... Josh just won’t get that recognition even if he deserves it. But interestingly, Josh had a higher on target rate on short and medium passes last year than MVP Lamar Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Apples and oranges as they played in different eras. Kelly had 403 in the infamous “no punt” game. And in Jimbo's era you could just beat the snot out of a QB. I remember when Bruce knocked out Boomer Esiason when he played for the Jets on the frozen turf at the Ralph. Just crushed his head into the ground. Don't even think there was a penalty called. Entirely different game today. But Josh Allen would have played well then also. He is a tough guy who loves the physicality of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: And in Jimbo's era you could just beat the snot out of a QB. I remember when Bruce knocked out Boomer Esiason when he played for the Jets on the frozen turf at the Ralph. Just crushed his head into the ground. Don't even think there was a penalty called. Entirely different game today. But Josh Allen would have played well then also. He is a tough guy who loves the physicality of the game. And beat the hell out of the receivers too, all the way down the field. Illegal contact? What the hell was that? Defensive holding? Umm...nope. DPI? Haha... Edited November 10, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: And in Jimbo's era you could just beat the snot out of a QB. I remember when Bruce knocked out Boomer Esiason when he played for the Jets on the frozen turf at the Ralph. Just crushed his head into the ground. Don't even think there was a penalty called. Entirely different game today. But Josh Allen would have played well then also. He is a tough guy who loves the physicality of the game. Yeah some of these “roughing the passer” calls in today’s game are hard to take. I understand why the rules were changed but it has to be really hard for the players on D to avoid some of these supposed penalty hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InEnemyTerritory Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Not 1 MVP vote. No 500 yard games either. Bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, InEnemyTerritory said: No 500 yard games either. Bust! Don’t know where this came from, but I’m being serious. So far he has 0 votes for MVP. Derek Carr has a vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The other key to this is that we move the ball. Always. 9 games with 20 or more first downs. You don't get 3 and outs with that type of accuracy and air yard combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, dma0034 said: Guess who we should planning which QB we are taking in the first round next year. There is a wise saying: If you ain't first, you're last There's another old saying. Don't smoke crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) PFFfffffffffftttt. Can’t be true. this data set is incredible. I know on target vs not is subjective. But it suggests not only has he defeated the argument that his college accuracy was uncorrectable. He may actually have ELITE accuracy at this point. And he’s still developing. bravo mcbeane. Edited November 10, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InEnemyTerritory Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Don’t know where this came from, but I’m being serious. So far he has 0 votes for MVP. Derek Carr has a vote. Wait are you talking about Wilson or Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 hours ago, matter2003 said: Allen has dramatically increased his on target percentage this year, ranking third in the NFL behind only Drew Brees(84.2%) and Teddy Bridgewater(83.5%) at 81.4%. Last year he was 21st in this metric at 73.2%. But... but... This cannot be true! I've read it on here that you can't improve accuracy, that Josh is inaccurate, and that PFF decides what NFL quarterbacks can and cannot do. How... how did Josh do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: But... but... This cannot be true! I've read it on here that you can't improve accuracy, that Josh is inaccurate, and that PFF decides what NFL quarterbacks can and cannot do. How... how did Josh do this? because once one person on espn or nfl network starts with an awful narrative of being inaccurate the rest of the clones follow. along with other narratives recently picked up like "josh non throwing shoulder injury doesnt effect accuracy" or "he has a bullet for a throw, weather shouldnt have an effect" Titans had a huge amount of time to watch game film at there homes or hotels. that game was there superbowl to them KC game we were screwed cause for a period of time we had to study for 2 teams giving them the advantage" NE game take away the weather.. we throw all over them Yes the injury effected him on top of it all. shame on josh for being looked down on because he threw for 400 against a bad defense Thats what great QB's do! there is no first 4 week josh last 4 week josh. his ceiling is unknown.. still 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: because once one person on espn or nfl network starts with an awful narrative of being inaccurate the rest of the clones follow. along with other narratives recently picked up like "josh non throwing shoulder injury doesnt effect accuracy" or "he has a bullet for a throw, weather shouldnt have an effect" Titans had a huge amount of time to watch game film at there homes or hotels. that game was there superbowl to them KC game we were screwed cause for a period of time we had to study for 2 teams giving them the advantage" NE game take away the weather.. we throw all over them Yes the injury effected him on top of it all. shame on josh for being looked down on because he threw for 400 against a bad defense Thats what great QB's do! there is no first 4 week josh last 4 week josh. his ceiling is unknown.. still You're wrong on all accounts. It's because Josh has been giving his offer of Rum and Cigar to Jobu to help lift the curse off of the team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 How bou dah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Philo said: Eff Terry Bradshaw. I used to like Terry until a game this year, I can't remember which one, but during post-game highlights he commented something along the lines "you can't teach accuracy and Josh Allen isn't accurate." Kinda ticked me off, sorry..other than that I used to like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I'm lovin every minute of this. It is truly, truly a thing of beauty watching this 24 year old kid develop and grow the way he has. Every week he finds a new way to impress me. I say with 2,000% confidence that we have officially found our franchise quarterback, and I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he shatters every single one of Jim Kelly's records by the age of 30. That's how good this kid has the potential to be. You know what's also funny? During the Seahawks game someone commented that Allen is like a linebacker in a QB's body. Didn't they say that about another of our QB's?? 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Where the hell is JRober? We need JRober to comment on these impossible stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, hemma said: Where the hell is JRober? We need JRober to comment on these impossible stats. you calling him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: you calling him out? What if I am? What if I’m not? Just to be safe, best to report my post as being ‘suspicious’ to the authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, hemma said: What if I am? What if I’m not? Just to be safe, best to report my post as being ‘suspicious’ to the authorities. cause its not cool.. right wrong or indifferent and based on your answer you already know this. Edited Everyone has a right to there opinion on these forums, no one has a crystal ball to look forward or back. We have all been wrong and right about many things enough said Edited November 11, 2020 by PrimeTime101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: cause its not cool.. right wrong or indifferent and based on your answer you already know this. Edited Everyone has a right to there opinion on these forums, no one has a crystal ball to look forward or back. We have all been wrong and right about many things enough said Thanks Dad. Unless he has changed a whole lot, the JRober I knew would have enjoyed the conversation and at worst, wouldn’t care one way or the other. <enough said>. I sure hope so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: PFFfffffffffftttt. Can’t be true. this data set is incredible. I know on target vs not is subjective. But it suggests not only has he defeated the argument that his college accuracy was uncorrectable. He may actually have ELITE accuracy at this point. And he’s still developing. bravo mcbeane. I mentioned it again to my son on Sunday, his throwing motion often looks.........”funny”? I’m afraid I can’t describe what’s different or “funny” about it, but the ball goes to the right place! Whatever he’s changed, I just pray it keeps working! . Edited November 11, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, InEnemyTerritory said: Wait are you talking about Wilson or Allen? Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 The funniest part about this is GM's are going to think josh is now the rule and not the exception and they will draft guys based on their tools and potential. Josh is an outlier, I doubt teams are going to find a guy that can have this incredible of a turnaround anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: cause its not cool.. right wrong or indifferent and based on your answer you already know this. Edited Everyone has a right to there opinion on these forums, no one has a crystal ball to look forward or back. We have all been wrong and right about many things enough said Oh duuddeee. Whatever man. This is lame. Rober 100% deserves to be called out. He said dumb things and was completely wrong. 30 minutes ago, hemma said: Thanks Dad. Unless he has changed a whole lot, the JRober I knew would have enjoyed the conversation and at worst, wouldn’t care one way or the other. <enough said>. I sure hope so. He deserves any and every callout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 If only he could solve his accuracy issues, he might be able to move up in the rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: cause its not cool.. right wrong or indifferent and based on your answer you already know this. Edited Everyone has a right to there opinion on these forums, no one has a crystal ball to look forward or back. We have all been wrong and right about many things enough said He’ll be ok Mrs Jrober. Really, he will. Act like a stooge. Get treated like a stooge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 15 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Don’t know where this came from, but I’m being serious. So far he has 0 votes for MVP. Derek Carr has a vote. If you are referring to the Midseason Award Predictions on nfl.com, the single vote for Carr came from ... his brother David. The other votes were pretty evenly split between Wilson and Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I'm not surprised to see Fitz high on that 1st list. I was surprised they benched him while he was playing so well, but Tua is 2-0, so I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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