MrEpsYtown Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He just is playing out of position, I could say that most of our LBs as love Tremaine at SLB, Klein at MLB and Milano at WLB. To Lorenzo’s point, we have played the majority of the season in a nickel 4-2-5, and in that alignment Edmunds and Milano/Klein are essentially playing the same position. we have not been in much base. I agree though? That he could excel as a sam in a 4-3 under look, which I just have not seen this year. I still believe in him, because he is a unicorn as a mike. He could be something amazing. But if he were drafted by a team like the Steelers or Ravens and played more like a 3-4 OLB, he’d have like 12 sacks every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Sheldon rankins please 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: To Lorenzo’s point, we have played the majority of the season in a nickel 4-2-5, and in that alignment Edmunds and Milano/Klein are essentially playing the same position. we have not been in much base. I agree though? That he could excel as a sam in a 4-3 under look, which I just have not seen this year. I still believe in him, because he is a unicorn as a mike. He could be something amazing. But if he were drafted by a team like the Steelers or Ravens and played more like a 3-4 OLB, he’d have like 12 sacks every year. Belichick would make him another Chandler Jones IMO. 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: Sheldon rankins please He had a sprained MCL https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-sheldon-rankins-suffers-mcl-sprain-report 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Floydboy12 said: I don’t think anything gets done. Feel like Beane won’t admit he made several missed calls in FA. Team seems to be set for better or worse. I'm not sure he makes any moves either mainly because there are too many holes that need plugging. The only move I could see him making would be one that would beyond this year, but can't see him going for a one year rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I'm not sure he makes any moves either mainly because there are too many holes that need plugging. The only move I could see him making would be one that would beyond this year, but can't see him going for a one year rental. We clearly have too many D-lineman on this roster. One or two have to go the problem is the two that be likely cuts, Murphy and Butler, hurt us most against the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 He’s gotta make a move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Even adding a decent MLB might launch us into elite AFC territory. We are getting absolutely dreadful play from our LBs. 1 guy that’s just slightly above avg, could send us on a run. Edited November 3, 2020 by Brianmoorman4jesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Floydboy12 said: I don’t think anything gets done. Feel like Beane won’t admit he made several missed calls in FA. Team seems to be set for better or worse. Beane had no way of knowing Star and Gaines were going to opt out and know way of knowing the NFL were going to ignore holding and neutralize how our D works. I also don't see anyone available that will help us. We need a 1tech. Edited November 3, 2020 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Even adding a decent MLB might launch us into elite AFC territory. We are getting absolutely dreadful play from our LBs. 1 guy that’s just slightly above avg, could send us on a run. Even the best LBers would suffer playing behind our DL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Send a third for engram and the d tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Watching the MNF game, I'd take Engram for a 3rd. Our offense is missing even an average TE right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Ok we send a 2021 3rd and a 2022 5th and we throw in Murphy for Engram? Does that work? Edited November 3, 2020 by qwksilver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Floydboy12 said: I don’t think anything gets done. Feel like Beane won’t admit he made several missed calls in FA. Team seems to be set for better or worse. You see too much of yourself in Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Engram looking like a guy I might trade a 3rd for tonight. I feel like he is being targeted tonight a ton for a reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Not really hearing the Bills being tied to any players. Almost feels like nothing is going to happen... wasn’t it like that when we made the surprise trade for Kb too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: The former “character coach” from the Pats. Zero GM experience. Should be Ripe for the fleecing. Yes by the P*ts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Hope Beane is watching tonight's game. I'd give a third for Tomlinson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I don’t get this TE trade talk. Is our defensive strategy going to be keeping them off the field as much as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Dalvin Tomlinson is team captain. Usually another good sign. Go get him. Please. 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: Hope Beane is watching tonight's game. I'd give a third for Tomlinson. If we shore up the weakest link on our defense the offense won't have to score 35 to win. I'd prefer Tomlinson to a TE or DE. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: I don’t get this TE trade talk. Is our defensive strategy going to be keeping them off the field as much as possible? When looking at trades they might make TE is the spot on offense that jumps out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Hope Beane is watching tonight's game. I'd give a third for Tomlinson. No way give a 3rd. That’s a premium pick id say a 2022 4th Edited November 3, 2020 by Do The Reich Thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: No way give a 3rd. That’s a premium pick id say a 2022 4th That 4th is valued as a 2021 5th not going to be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Wasn't he a 2nd rounder? I don't think NY considers a 5th and we have no 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I think watching how much bringing back Feliciano (even with losing Morse) improved the run, should hopefully show how much doing the same on the defensive interior would help the defense as a whole. Feliciano was a huge part of the running game. Adding a true 1-tech (none of Phillips, Oliver, Butler, Jefferson or Zimmer are truly a 1-tech) like Tomlinson would be a big piece to helping improve the entire defense. if you look at how we’ve been playing, the linebackers look like they tend to be stacking over the nose, and even the safeties seem to be doing so quite often. Probably because they know there’s so much push against that area of our defense. Clogging that hole consistently allows the second and third level guys to spread out more snd make more plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, qwksilver said: That 4th is valued as a 2021 5th not going to be enough. He’s a very good player, but man that’s tough to let go of a 3rd. You’re mortgaging a lot if you don’t have a 3rd or 4th next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Wasn't he a 2nd rounder? I don't think NY considers a 5th and we have no 4th. He was a 2nd rounder but he’s on an expiring contract. They don’t have much leverage here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Please! go get Tomlinson from the Giants. He can bring that nasty to to the DLine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Do The Reich Thing said: He’s a very good player, but man that’s tough to let go of a 3rd. You’re mortgaging a lot if you don’t have a 3rd or 4th next year. The draft next year isn't a typical draft. And honestly I would trade a third for Tomlinson. For one I think while it is unlikely the Bills could resign him it is possible that if he fits in well that the front office (depending on what the cap is) could want to resign him and platoon him with Star. Tomlinson wouldn't fix all the issues with this defense. The pass rush is mid-level and lacks that edge setter, there is a lack of a number two corner and possibly the LB play is suspect. But Tomlinson would greatly improve the rush defense and help out the LB's. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, BBills88 said: Please! go get Tomlinson from the Giants. He can bring that nasty to to the DLine He’s been impressive tn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: I don’t get this TE trade talk. Is our defensive strategy going to be keeping them off the field as much as possible? A good TE is a cover 2 beater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) I think the Bills roll with what they got. Not much space this year and will most likely need all their draft picks to compensate for the larger dead cap thats looming for next year from some of the crappy FA pickups. Edited November 3, 2020 by Weatherman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: $12 million against the cap next year. Way too rich for me. If we want some quality, we 're gonna have to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: He’s a very good player, but man that’s tough to let go of a 3rd. You’re mortgaging a lot if you don’t have a 3rd or 4th next year. I get it but if you NEED help you have to take the offer. Plus how much will a 3rd or 4th rounder help this team in 2021? If necessary there are ways to get those rounds back. This one get takes pressure off both sides of the ball. Nothing they can do now will be as effective! Edited November 3, 2020 by qwksilver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Engram is young and can be re-signed. Tomlinson too. Draft picks aren't too much to give up for guys who could be long term solutions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, qwksilver said: I get it but if you NEED help you have to take the offer. Plus how much will a 3rd or 4th rounder help this team in 2021? If necessary there are ways to get those rounds back. This one get takes pressure off both sides of the ball. Nothing they can do now will be as effective! I agree it’s just tough to do it. I would be happy if they made a move for him, but I don’t see Beane giving up a 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: I agree it’s just tough to do it. I would be happy if they made a move for him, but I don’t see Beane giving up a 3rd I'm not sure I see him either because he values those picks to move around but more importantly it would be him acknowledging he made some mistakes this offseason. Almost no one likes to admit they aren't perfect. Star opting out really hurt us. Edited November 3, 2020 by qwksilver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Okay, today's the big day! DID BEANE MAKE A TRADE YET ???? One thing this crazy year has brought, there seems to be far more in-season player movement (trades) than I remember from other seasons. Or am I just losing my memory? Edited November 3, 2020 by CSBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 We are not trading for Tomlinson as they would want a 2nd as he was taken in the 2nd, his contract expires at the end of this year, and will cost quite a bit in a cap Covid year. You guys know who I want in Settle. Only $800 k through next year, was taken in the 6th round, and would be cheap in a draft pick. Washington is going nowhere and they have a ton of depth on their defensive line. Besides, Rivera and McD are friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I wonder how interested we'd be in John Ross? John Brown has been unavailable/injured and he is the only player we have that can stretch the field. Even when Brown is healthy, wouldn't Ross be a nice player to have?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: I wonder how interested we'd be in John Ross? John Brown has been unavailable/injured and he is the only player we have that can stretch the field. Even when Brown is healthy, wouldn't Ross be a nice player to have?? I think if he is cut, he would be a good add to the PS in case Brown is hurt again. Would not give up a pick for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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