shoshin Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, HomeTeam said: That Mitch Morse concussion is a major concern. I wish him a speedy recovery, I know he has a history with that : S I dunno. The run blocking was much better today. Could just be Mongo's return but I have always thought Morse was more athletic than strong on the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Went almost exactly as I suspected it would with between two divisional opponents who know each other so well. The wind was the most influential component of the game as it’s been so many times in that stadium. Happy we got a W. Not kidding myself for a second that this defense is anything special or that it’s capable of winning a game for us against a good opponent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Zack Moss gonna get an Angry Run nomination? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Not a happy win. I'm pretty happy. 6-2 with a big divisional lead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just take the win? Why are you on the board posting then? “To say good win right. That was amazing we are great”. I don’t see the point in that. Just go have a drink and celebrate. Many prefer to look at the bigger picture and the current state of this team. What they need to right the ship. Player additions? Scheme changes? Changes to rotations? It’s ok to want more than just a w over a bad team by a fumble inside one minute. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, HomeTeam said: That Mitch Morse concussion is a major concern. I wish him a speedy recovery, I know he has a history with that : S Morse is having a very good year but I think if he has one more it will really impact his quality of life after football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, K-9 said: Not kidding myself for a second that this defense is anything special or that it’s capable of winning a game for us against a good opponent. The Ravens would run for 400 yards against them. It's a huge problem, though maybe with a healthy Wallace and Milano in future games, they can commit more to stopping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, HomeTeam said: Happy to win but we have to be honest with ourselves here, this team has a bunch of flaws. Unfortunately, I don't believe we can compete with the premier teams in the AFC. I hate to admit it, but I feel you may be right...maybe I'm still a bit emotional after the game, but in my heart I feel we'd have a real tough time beating the Steelers, Ravens even though they just lost(but both losses were to the two best teams in the NFL), Chiefs, Titans...it can certainly happen. When our offense is clickin, I believe we can score on anybody. I just don't see our D makin enough stops.... I really, really, really hope we get this turned around, and quickly. Being the resident TBD rainbow sunshine and lollipops optimist, I still don't see it happening, not with so many missing pieces and injuries...this may be something that won't be able to be addressed until the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Morse is having a very good year but I think if he has one more it will really impact his quality of life after football. This is #5. He should stop IMO. It's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, ngbills said: Just take the win? Why are you on the board posting then? “To say good win right. That was amazing we are great”. I don’t see the point in that. Just go have a drink and celebrate. Many prefer to look at the bigger picture and the current state of this team. What they need to right the ship. Player additions? Scheme changes? Changes to rotations? It’s ok to want more than just a w over a bad team by a fumble inside one minute. We tend to think of the Patriots as the "unstoppable jauggernaut" during their dynasty years (which have ended). But that only started in 2007. To that point, they were the scrappy team that figured out ways to win close games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: How much better/worse could Zo be? Zo sitting on the couch with a bag of cheetos is better than Klein. Beane should be ashamed for this signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: Some writers talk about players responding positively to coaches showing they are doing everything they can to win. Examples of this are going for it on fourth down, going for 2, or running gadget plays. Obviously this is an intangible/unquantifiable factor. While the pats might not have recovered the onside kick, they seemed to play well the rest of the game. I saw it differently. It felt like he didn’t trust his offense so he made a desperate call. When coaches feel overmatched they pull out trick plays and crap. It backfired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, smuvtalker said: I hate to admit it, but I feel you may be right...maybe I'm still a bit emotional after the game, but in my heart I feel we'd have a real tough time beating the Steelers, Ravens even though they just lost(but both losses were to the two best teams in the NFL), Chiefs, Titans...it can certainly happen. When our offense is clickin, I believe we can score on anybody. I just don't see our D makin enough stops.... I really, really, really hope we get this turned around, and quickly. Being the resident TBD rainbow sunshine and lollipops optimist, I still don't see it happening, not with so many missing pieces and injuries...this may be something that won't be able to be addressed until the off-season. Any team can have a bad game in one aspect but the Bills D is consistently terrible. It's their identity, especially run D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I dunno. Another game we play down to a far less talented team. Yeah we won 2 in a row but they got to get it together. That just isn't good enough. Belichick is still Belichick and he knows the AFC East teams as well as his own. I'll take the win. So many "poor" Bills teams have played "great" NE teams down to the wire, but always found a way to lose. Today we played them down to the wire and found a way to win. Enjoy a win for a few minutes...it's healthy. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: That was flat out embarrassing. No. What is flat out embarrassing is having the lead on the Pats and all you have to do is catch a punt and run the clock out. Instead a certain player fumbled the punt. Not one game but two. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I saw it differently. It felt like he didn’t trust his offense so he made a desperate call. When coaches feel overmatched they pull out trick plays and crap. It backfired. Yes, they were/are desperate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: No. What is flat out embarrassing is having the lead on the Pats and all you have to do is catch a punt and run the clock out. Instead a certain player fumbled the punt. Not one game but two. nightmarish memories 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, WideNine said: Belichick is still Belichick and he knows the AFC East teams as well as his own. I'll take the win. So many "poor" Bills teams have played "great" NE teams down to the wire, but always found a way to lose. Today we played them down to the wire and found a way to win. Enjoy a win for a few minutes...it's healthy. My point exactly. Let's take a moment to revel in the statement "2-5 New England Patriots" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 minute ago, shoshin said: This is #5. He should stop IMO. It's not worth it. I agree, we will defiantly need a new center next year. He might be out a very long time with this one but if he gets another this year he should call it quits on the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Still don't know why we pulled Bates away from center this needs to be asked of the coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I saw it differently. It felt like he didn’t trust his offense so he made a desperate call. When coaches feel overmatched they pull out trick plays and crap. It backfired. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, Nelius said: Another win. This team is going to win the division. Learn to love it, Debbies. Klein is awful though, I agree. Multiple visible plays where he was clearly too slow and overmatched. Darron Lee addition continues to make sense but need more at LB. I hope Lee is active. We need his speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That onside kick was a terrible and desperate decision by Belichick. 4d loser chess 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Maybe the least satisfying victory ever for me as a fan. I think part of it is me coming to terms with some things. i question McDermott’s football IQ. Belichick wanted a close game, McDermott could never take advantage of having a superior QB and Wide Receivers. This game should not of been close. Glad to win but think we seem to always like to make it way harder than it needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, smuvtalker said: I hate to admit it, but I feel you may be right...maybe I'm still a bit emotional after the game, but in my heart I feel we'd have a real tough time beating the Steelers, Ravens even though they just lost(but both losses were to the two best teams in the NFL), Chiefs, Titans...it can certainly happen. When our offense is clickin, I believe we can score on anybody. I just don't see our D makin enough stops.... I really, really, really hope we get this turned around, and quickly. Being the resident TBD rainbow sunshine and lollipops optimist, I still don't see it happening, not with so many missing pieces and injuries...this may be something that won't be able to be addressed until the off-season. Yea, my heart says the same thing. Watching teams like the Steelers, Chiefs, Ravens, Titans, they just seem like a tier above us. It sucks but I don't think our defensive front seven is stout enough. Who knows, maybe the team will sort it out as the season unfolds. That's the best I have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Things to do: AJ Klein needs to be thrown into the Niagara River Just make sure he actually gets thrown - if you leave it to him he'd run right at it and somehow miss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 38 minutes ago, Muppy said: our running game with Mondo back was stout enough and even without Morse Im happy with Moss and Singletarys effort and the OL's too as far as that goes. They in fact IMO should have run the ball MORE especially in the first half Im all about running, but we need all the WRs to step up not just a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: Maybe the least satisfying victory ever for me as a fan. I think part of it is me coming to terms with some things. i question McDermott’s football IQ. Belichick wanted a close game, McDermott could never take advantage of having a superior QB and Wide Receivers. This game should not of been close. Glad to win but think we seem to always like to make it way harder than it needs to be. In the past I would feel sorry for you. I don't feel that way for anyone who thinks that anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Zimmer Hughes and Oliver came to play today edmunds and Klein once again were horrible. Milano had a rough game also Completely agree. Please stop forcing Ed to play 1T. Please hide Edmunds somewhere on the outside. Please play Zimmer more and Harry / Klein less. And just bury Winters at the bottom of the depth chart. Milano was off today and probably injury related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, HomeTeam said: Happy to win but we have to be honest with ourselves here, this team has a bunch of flaws. Unfortunately, I don't believe we can compete with the premier teams in the AFC. there are 3-4 elite teams in the AFC and then a whole bunch at the next tier. That next tier (where the Bills are) are like a full 14 to 21-points behind the elite teams. Just look at when the 5-3 Browns try to play the Steelers or ravens, or the 6-2 Bills try to play the chiefs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, shoshin said: The Ravens would run for 400 yards against them. It's a huge problem, though maybe with a healthy Wallace and Milano in future games, they can commit more to stopping it. The run defense will only massively or at least significantly improve if the Bills get a true one tech by Tuesday. The team is getting gutted up the middle over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Awe look at his mom. Gotta love that. 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, shoshin said: I dunno. The run blocking was much better today. Could just be Mongo's return but I have always thought Morse was more athletic than strong on the run. That's an interesting take and not the first time I've heard that around here. You might be right but I'd imagine you would want a combination of Morse and Mongo in the starting lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 We started 6-2 last year. There was so much discussion this offseason about the cake schedule, and how much harder this one is. We are 6-2 again. This schedule is about as hard as it gets in the NFL. A tough stretch is still to come, but Rams-Raiders-Titans-Chiefs, complete with COVID schedule issues, was almost as tough as this coming one IMO. Again, this year's schedule was far harder, and we are 6-2. I'm worried about obvious holes. Most teams do the same. I am thrilled that we gutted the Patriots in a close game at the end, like they did to us so many times. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Awe look at his mom. Gotta love that. Can she play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Division games are always tough. It seems both teams decided this was going to be a knock down drag out old school game of football before the ball was even rolled out there today. What killed me however was the Davis drop. The points and the control hurt - but it makes such a huge difference in having to read some of the garbage takes on here. If davis catches that, its another offensive TD, 4 more points, and the last drive has a totally different feel/goal. It was the difference in putting it out of reach or at least being in control and having to listen to a certian crowd whine about how we should have crushed them. My god, any win over the Pats is great. Should it have been by more? Under perfect circumstances yes. But a lot about today wasnt perfect. Context is important. IMO, THAT is why the Davis drop sucked... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) The Pats are not what they were and Buffalo has some flaws but there was one key thing that I noticed. There were a few plays such as Zimmer forcing Newton's fumble and Maketevich recovering the surprise on-sides that made enough difference to eek out the win. There were many close losses against the Pats over the last twenty years where the boards would speculate "If they only stopped them here, if they only made that first down, if they only etc... we would have won. This time, we were able to make those "if they only did this" plays and instead New England suffered the "billsy" loss. This is a team that dealt with a record playoff drought and a winning culture does not happen overnight. 6-2 despite many flaws is an accomplishment and I am hoping that moments like this can help the Bills get to the next level. Edited November 1, 2020 by dgrochester55 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JGMcD2 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, arcane said: We started 6-2 last year. There was so much discussion this offseason about the cake schedule, and how much harder this one is. We are 6-2 again. This schedule is about as hard as it gets in the NFL. A tough stretch is still to come, but Rams-Raiders-Titans-Chiefs, complete with COVID schedule issues, was almost as tough as this coming one IMO. Again, this year's schedule was far harder, and we are 6-2. I'm worried about obvious holes. Most teams do the same. I am thrilled that we gutted the Patriots in a close game at the end, like they did to us so many times. Very good points. Very level headed points. Thank you for using what seems to be ever elusive logic on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Awe look at his mom. Gotta love that. A large amount of posters did not think he should be playing. Gut check for the young man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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