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Sam Darnold - AC joint sprain in throwing shoulder


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4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I didn’t see this posted even though the news came down last night. Will be interesting to see if he plays  vs bills in 3 weeks or if we get Flacco 

I wouldn’t even start Josh against the Jets I don’t trust that POS  G Williams we know what he’s capable off , 

I’m pretty sure we can beat the jets no matter who we got playing QB !!!

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Everyone knew he went back in the locker room, got a pain injection, and trotted back out there. At this point they are already 0-4 and it's another wash of a season. They should just sit him until healthy. 

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The question for the Jets has been “What do we have in Darnold?” They know what they have in “Average Joe” Flacco. A good way to compare and contrast leading to a decent analysis of Sam and his abilities. If Flacco looks better than Sam on that dumpster fire of a team, Sam is gone. 

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Gase is catching a bunch of crap for putting Becton in the game with an injured shoulder and Becton didn't even last a series before re-injuring the shoulder.  That followed the Le"Veon Bell hamstring mismanagement.  Gase simply can't put an injured Darnold out there behind that sieve of an O-Line.   

 

From a purely Machiavellian point of view, Gase will think about this situation and realize that he is going to lose the next 5 games no matter who is under center (Cardinals, Chargers, Bills, Chiefs, Patriots) and he is going to be staring at 0-9.  If Darnold is hurt and he has to play his backup QB Gase can always say, "Yes, we just lost 9 games in a row, but we played the last 5 games with our backup QB in there.  Not my fault."

 

Gase is the anti-McDermott. Gase will throw everyone around him under the bus to protect his own ass.  How many times have we seen that in post game pressers?  The only coach in the NFL I dislike more than Adam Gase is Gregg Williams.  I'm a Bills fan and I'd ordinarily love to watch the Jets burn to the ground, but Adam Gase and Gregg Williams are such terrible human beings I can't wait to watch both of them get fired.  I don't think either of them will ever sniff an NFL job again. 

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I didn’t see this posted even though the news came down last night. Will be interesting to see if he plays  vs bills in 3 weeks or if we get Flacco 

It was, but it’s been buried amid many posts. Plus, reveling in Jet dismay is one of our favorite things to do here.

So All Good!👍

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Hard to feel pity for any division rival but the Jets are a toxic mess right now.   Years of bad drafting and poor choices in draft picks have taken a toll and left them with a very bad roster.    Also Gase should never be allowed near a NFL locker room again.   No team deserves a coach who disregards their players and puts them at risk for injury like that.

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17 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I hope Roman gets the Jets job, would like to see what he can do with Darnold, would also like to see Jackson without Roman...

I don’t want the Jets to do well..but I liked Darnold coming out.. he was 3rd QB.. I hope they trade him out of the division and his career blossoms.. May be too late for him, Gase did him no favors..

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2 hours ago, H2o said:

Everyone knew he went back in the locker room, got a pain injection, and trotted back out there. At this point they are already 0-4 and it's another wash of a season. They should just sit him until healthy. 

Why? (from a Jets FO perspective)

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2 hours ago, Jumpsuit Jim said:

The question for the Jets has been “What do we have in Darnold?” They know what they have in “Average Joe” Flacco. A good way to compare and contrast leading to a decent analysis of Sam and his abilities. If Flacco looks better than Sam on that dumpster fire of a team, Sam is gone. 

To Chicago

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think Flacco is a shell of his former self, but the last time the Bills faced him it was not pretty (2 years ago in Baltimore , season opener). 

 

Interesting point.  I think of that game as an epic display of offensive ineptitude leading to Josh Allen being thrown to the wolves late in the 3rd Q.

But looking back, it's a valid point that Baltimore went TD, TD, punt, FG on their 3 possessions without help from turnovers (they did get a 51 yd return on the FG)

 

So one could say that the D put us in a 17 point hole right off the bat with no offensive assistance, since the D shouldn't be gassed that quickly in the game. 

 

Flacco had something to do with that, but as the season wore down, so did he resulting in being benched for Lamar.  And he hasn't been the same since.

That was Then, This is Now.

 

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7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Interesting point.  I think of that game as an epic display of offensive ineptitude leading to Josh Allen being thrown to the wolves late in the 3rd Q.

But looking back, it's a valid point that Baltimore went TD, TD, punt, FG on their 3 possessions without help from turnovers (they did get a 51 yd return on the FG)

 

So one could say that the D put us in a 17 point hole right off the bat with no offensive assistance, since the D shouldn't be gassed that quickly in the game. 

 

Flacco had something to do with that, but as the season wore down, so did he resulting in being benched for Lamar.  And he hasn't been the same since.

That was Then, This is Now.

 


 

Did the shift in Flacco happen when Kiko tried murdering him on national television?


 

I don’t think Flacco improves the jets, but I would rather face Darnold. He’s so useless against our defense.

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8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Some would say so.

 

Others would say it's just one hit in 2017 and Flacco played some competent to good games the rest of 2017 and early in 2018 before falling off.


Ah, I didn’t know for sure when that hit happened. 

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The jets are an incredibly poorly run operation, they have set up

two highly drafted players to be injured, amongst their other really bad personnel issues, that tire fire gif is needed about now... 

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The upsides to sitting Darnold are (1) Flacco actually gives them a better chance of at least winning a few games to keep out of the first draft pick and (2) it justifies the Jets keeping Gase around another year since he couldn't really show his stuff with his franchise QB on the bench. Josh learned a lot sitting because of an injury, and you could argue that Darnold will do the same.

 

In fact, I would argue it's imperative the Jets give Gase and Darnold another year together, just to make sure they are given every chance to succeed. I'd even sign Gase to a long-term deal to ensure he goes forward with confidence.

 

They just need more time together and everything will work out.

 

 

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6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I didn’t see this posted even though the news came down last night. Will be interesting to see if he plays  vs bills in 3 weeks or if we get Flacco 

I thought he broke his shoulder and/or collar bone.

 

Troy Aikman immediately predicted a broken collar bone, based on his own experience.

 

It looked painful! 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Gase is catching a bunch of crap for putting Becton in the game with an injured shoulder and Becton didn't even last a series before re-injuring the shoulder.  That followed the Le"Veon Bell hamstring mismanagement.  Gase simply can't put an injured Darnold out there behind that sieve of an O-Line.   

 

From a purely Machiavellian point of view, Gase will think about this situation and realize that he is going to lose the next 5 games no matter who is under center (Cardinals, Chargers, Bills, Chiefs, Patriots) and he is going to be staring at 0-9.  If Darnold is hurt and he has to play his backup QB Gase can always say, "Yes, we just lost 9 games in a row, but we played the last 5 games with our backup QB in there.  Not my fault."

 

Gase is the anti-McDermott. Gase will throw everyone around him under the bus to protect his own ass.  How many times have we seen that in post game pressers?  The only coach in the NFL I dislike more than Adam Gase is Gregg Williams.  I'm a Bills fan and I'd ordinarily love to watch the Jets burn to the ground, but Adam Gase and Gregg Williams are such terrible human beings I can't wait to watch both of them get fired.  I don't think either of them will ever sniff an NFL job again. 

I still remember Gase deciding after a couple miserable years at Miami that he was going to institute a culture change within the Dolphins organization.  When the core of the apple is rotten, and Gase is the core, you're not going to fix the rest of the apple.

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5 hours ago, Dkollidas said:

Gase has ruined Darnold’s early career. Best thing for Sam right now is to get away from the Jets. Let them ruin another young QB. 


At this point you hope he’s got someone in his ear telling him to just ride out his contract, go somewhere else as a backup, and hope to get a second shot as a starter down the road.

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23 minutes ago, KD in CA said:


At this point you hope he’s got someone in his ear telling him to just ride out his contract, go somewhere else as a backup, and hope to get a second shot as a starter down the road.

 

Probably a good chance a team will need a bridge and he would get a good shot to start on another team.

I agree he is best served going somewhere else.

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4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

True, but wasn’t that before the Kiko hit? Since then I don’t think Flacco has been the same. 

He has never been very good. He had a couple nice runs in the post season, though.

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