Browns figured out why they lost to the Ravens

[YoloinOhio]

17 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

Did anyone watch the game yesterday? I haven't seen but a highlight or two and I'm curious...if you saw the game, what was their problem? Play calling? Mayfield? Their defense? Or are the Ravens just that good this year?

I saw it. The problem was they looked totally unprepared, obj drops easy passes and has poor body language, Myles Garrett was a non-factor, they couldn’t stick with the run game (which is pretty good) because they fell behind so early, lots of injuries on D, it was just a whole lot of bad. Mayfield looks to lack the confidence and poise he often had as a rookie. Mainly, the Ravens looked really good - possibly even better than the chefs 

 

btw OBJ has lost a step. While not a bad player per se he’s not the same as when he was with the NYG

Edited September 14, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[notwoz]

3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

It is unbelievable.  Honestly, do you kinda feel for Browns fans?  

No.

[Just Joshin']

30 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I really don't know how Mayfield goes from one of the most accurate passers in college to missing a wide open Beckham multiple times in a game. Does he just not put the work in?

He is worried more about his house than football.

[Albany,n.y.]

Pretty simple answer.  They had the #1 pick in 2018 & chose the wrong QB.  #Wrong Baker.

[RyanC883]

4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

‘Why did we lose?

 

..because we Suck!’

 

for the Browns, that’s correct 

[YoloinOhio]

50 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I really don't know how Mayfield goes from one of the most accurate passers in college to missing a wide open Beckham multiple times in a game. Does he just not put the work in?

He admitted last year that he didn’t put the work in before year 2.  But some of it is undoubtedly that he’s in his 4th OC in 3 years

[Orlando Tim]

5 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

OBJ, Jarvis, Hunt, Chubb, Njoku, Hooper and they score 6 points.  Unbelievable.  

To lose is one thing but that talent at skills positions is incredible to score the same for the whole game as Moss scored recieving is not a good look.

[MrEpsYtown]

These Browns are very unlikeable. Back in the Kelly Holcomb-Tim Couch days I kind of felt bad for them. Not these guys. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

LOL I saw that and had same reaction .  I guess it was lets can somebody!

 

Sort of like when Rex Ryan’s defense was frog-marched backwards down the field over and over so they fired Roman?

[Sherlock Holmes]

5 hours ago, Warcodered said:

What are you talking about their punter was their highlight of the game.

Mann-Meat!!!!

 

[JMF2006]

That extra point would have made a huge difference  the score would have been 38-7

 

The field goal miss sealed the deal they would have only lost by 28 and would have covered the spread  

 

 

The above post was not checked for facts  

[vincec]

5 hours ago, Maybe Someday said:

Kind of like the time when our defense got shredded so we fired the OC. 

I was reminded of the exact same thing. They just spin the a Penalty Wheel and fire whomever it lands on.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

The Browns lost to one of the best teams in the league. They didn't play the jets.

 

Are we saying if the Bills played the ravens Allen would have performed much better than Mayfield?

[ganesh]

6 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

It's like watching the bills with like watkins and everyone.  Some big plays and big names - but at the end of the day they will drop a key 3rd down, take a bad penalty, or just miss a throw at an inopportune time.  If they don't run well they won't win.  

 

I'm also not sure what baker is at this point.  He's supposed to be the accurate one of the class, and you see it on some of the 10-20 yard stuff.  But the short stuff was supposed to be his bread and butter, and it just isn't.  He's late and off-target constantly.  His pocket presence also hasn't really improved.  I do think he'll end up having a 2nd career somewhere other than cleveland.  Maybe Tennessee when tannehill inevitably does tannehill things.  

When you have 3 coaching staff in your 3 years in the NFL, there is no continuity and *process*

[BruceVilanch]

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

The Browns lost to one of the best teams in the league. They didn't play the jets.

 

Are we saying if the Bills played the ravens Allen would have performed much better than Mayfield?

I'm going out on a limb and saying yes, Josh would have played better than Baker.

[apuszczalowski]

1 hour ago, JMF2006 said:

That extra point would have made a huge difference  the score would have been 38-7

 

The field goal miss sealed the deal they would have only lost by 28 and would have covered the spread  

 

 

The above post was not checked for facts  

The coach and GM took the over at 45 and took the Browns to cover the spread.....

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

The Browns lost to one of the best teams in the league. They didn't play the jets.

 

Are we saying if the Bills played the ravens Allen would have performed much better than Mayfield?

I would hope so, they did play a very close game against the Ravens last year and should be able to score more then 6 points.

No ones making fun of the browns just because they lost, its because they lost so bad AND decided it was the kickers faults that they dumped them immediately.....

[Doc]

3 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

He is worried more about his house than football.

 

More likely he's worried about what skank's going to give him a Cleveland steamer after the game.

[BobbyC81]

12 hours ago, Lurker said:

Could it be that Baker was so tired from covering up all the FirstEnergy seats from the rain that he had nothing left on Sunday? 

 

I mean, give the poor guy a break...

 

So, I’ve been noticing a trend where posters find a post on a prior page of a thread and then post it again as if it was their take.  

 

Edited September 15, 2020 by ColeB

[billsfan_34]

16 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

You're aware there are people who want to cut Bass today because he missed two kicks (possibly one) out of seven in a game we won.

 

I'm not one of those people, but they are out there. Heard an Eagles fan call to bench Wentz for Jalen Hurts today.

Not for nothing, but Wentz really hasn’t played good ball since Reich left.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Mayfield looks to lack the confidence and poise he often had as a rookie.

Yes, but how does Baker look at the post game presser?  The epitome of sartorial perfection?  Or did he 'go grunge' this week?

12 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Pretty simple answer.  They had the #1 pick in 2018 & chose the wrong QB.  #Wrong Baker.

But there was only one!

[That's No Moon]

2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

Not for nothing, but Wentz really hasn’t played good ball since Reich left.

Not for nothing, but they have terrible WRs and their top 2 RBS were hurt yesterday.

[Royale with Cheese]

12 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

The Browns lost to one of the best teams in the league. They didn't play the jets.

 

Are we saying if the Bills played the ravens Allen would have performed much better than Mayfield?

They have one of the more talented offensive rosters in the league....they put up six points. 
 

Its not a cause of concern if Mayfield was decent last year.  But he wasn’t and starts the year off poorly.

 

If the Bills lost by 32, I would have concerns.

15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I saw it. The problem was they looked totally unprepared, obj drops easy passes and has poor body language, Myles Garrett was a non-factor, they couldn’t stick with the run game (which is pretty good) because they fell behind so early, lots of injuries on D, it was just a whole lot of bad. Mayfield looks to lack the confidence and poise he often had as a rookie. Mainly, the Ravens looked really good - possibly even better than the chefs 

 

btw OBJ has lost a step. While not a bad player per se he’s not the same as when he was with the NYG

I 100% see the lack of confidence in Baker.

Thats the first thing that I noticed in his post game.  
I honestly think he gets benched at some point in the first half of this season.  I don’t think it’ll be permanent the first time but after multiple unsuccessful drives...he gets yanked.   

[Patrick Duffy]

23 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Not for nothing, but they have terrible WRs and their top 2 RBS were hurt yesterday.

Yeah but he has kinda been struggling since he returned from that injury. He wasn't quite as on point as he looked before he went down and Foles helped win the SB. And he's gotten worse and worse since.

 

Not terrible, don't get me wrong. Just nowhere near as good as before imo

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Yes, but how does Baker look at the post game presser?  The epitome of sartorial perfection?  Or did he 'go grunge' this week?

But there was only one!

Ha. Tbh, if you want to see who baker mayfield was supposed to be? It’s Gardner Minshew. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ha. Tbh, if you want to see who baker mayfield was supposed to be? It’s Gardner Minshew. 

In performance on the field, or his GQ Magazine 'style index'?  😁

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

It probably would have been better if he just blamed it on the fans not being there. 

[MJS]

I'm fine with the Browns sucking for a long time. They have a bunch of annoying players.

[YoloinOhio]

14 hours ago, Doc said:

 

More likely he's worried about what skank's going to give him a Cleveland steamer after the game.

🧐

 

[PrimeTime101]

27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

🧐

 

you cant flush when theres a broken trigger unless you fix whats wrong inside..

Edited September 15, 2020 by PrimeTime101

[YoloinOhio]

Need different excuses this year for baker 

 

 

[Nick the Greek]

On 9/14/2020 at 3:20 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

It is unbelievable.  Honestly, do you kinda feel for Browns fans?  

I’ve met some real jerky ones so no, not at all. 

22 hours ago, njbuff said:

The Ravens have outscored their opponents 164-19 in their last 4 season openers.

 

Yikes.

And sadly, I think one of those opening week shellackings came against us (Peterman was the QB). 

19 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

The Browns lost to one of the best teams in the league. They didn't play the jets.

 

Are we saying if the Bills played the ravens Allen would have performed much better than Mayfield?

Umm, I think so. We played the Ravens last season and was a good game. We lost but it wasn’t an embarrassment like what happened to the Browns. 

[billsfan_34]

On 9/15/2020 at 9:57 AM, That's No Moon said:

Not for nothing, but they have terrible WRs and their top 2 RBS were hurt yesterday.

Not for nothing, notice I was not just talking about Sundays game. Wentz just isn't elite. He was on the path, now he isn't.

[Bray Wyatt]

On 9/14/2020 at 9:26 PM, Doc said:

 

More likely he's worried about what skank's going to give him a Cleveland steamer after the game.

 

I thought that would be OBJ, unless this is something new that Baker likes to do in the Cheesecake Factory parking lot?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 9/14/2020 at 1:53 PM, jeremy2020 said:

Baker Mayfield. 

 

I'll give them that info for free because I really want them to make the playoffs so the Jets own the longest active playoffless streak.

 

Man, Steven A Smith, Ryan Clark, and Dan Orlovsky all went full-on Drive By on Baker.

Ryan Clark: We should not crush Baker Mayfield (proceeds to slice, dice, mince, filet, and shred him)

 

My take is the press is mighty fickle and every football player should take a warning.  On the other hand, I’d like to hear from the analytics guys who thought Baker Mayfield was gonna be Football Jesus and our Boi had bust tattooed on his heart.  Can any of them admit that it isn’t quite working out like they thought?

 

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 9/14/2020 at 8:10 PM, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

The Browns lost to one of the best teams in the league. They didn't play the jets.

 

Are we saying if the Bills played the ravens Allen would have performed much better than Mayfield?

 

Well, last season when we played the Ravens and the league MVP, Allen did perform better than Mayfield last Sunday- and that’s without the league-leading WR and RB talent they’re supposed to have in Cleveland.  We had Brown and Bease last year, who are good but not Landry and Beckham class.  They were mauled all day by the Ravens DB and pretty much taken away.

 

I can see where you might look at the stats and not see it too much, but I watched both games and it’s true.

 

The Ravens defense was just as fierce, and Wink Martindale was dialing up the unique look pressures like nobody’s business.  Allen was getting the sh** beaten out of him behind our line and at one point limped off and got his ankle taped.  But he and the Bills battled back, and we were in position to tie the thing  (or win with a conversion) on the last play of the game.

 

Allen went up to Lamar after the game and said “we’ll see you again” (meaning in the playoffs).  Lamar nodded.

 

Hell, for that matter, when the Browns played the Ravens last year, Mayfield performed much better (In the first game) than he played last Sunday.

[IDBillzFan]

Tonight's games is one of those games that some fans look at and suggest TNF games are crappy, and no one wants to watch them, but I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing these two QBs play tonight.

 

We know the Browns got crushed by a team everyone knows is very good, but what do we know about the Bengals losing to the Chargers? That game looked tight up to the fourth quarter, and almost went to OT but for a missed Bengals FG. Are the Bengals pretty good or are the Chargers not so good?

 

What say you about tonight, TBD?

 

Bengals +6 seems very generous right now. Who's with me?

[Punching Bag]

On 9/14/2020 at 2:53 PM, jeremy2020 said:

Baker Mayfield. 

 

I'll give them that info for free because I really want them to make the playoffs so the Jets own the longest active playoffless streak.

 

I want them to have #1 draft pick, sign a QB, cut Baker and have Baker Mayfield be signed by JEST as another QB who goes to NJ to die.

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

Tonight's games is one of those games that some fans look at and suggest TNF games are crappy, and no one wants to watch them, but I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing these two QBs play tonight.

 

We know the Browns got crushed by a team everyone knows is very good, but what do we know about the Bengals losing to the Chargers? That game looked tight up to the fourth quarter, and almost went to OT but for a missed Bengals FG. Are the Bengals pretty good or are the Chargers not so good?

 

What say you about tonight, TBD?

 

Bengals +6 seems very generous right now. Who's with me?

I think the Browns will win because the Bengals OL is trash and Myles Garrett has been hearing all week how he was invisible vs the Ravens (who have a great OL And, the browns D actually somehow led the league in pressures). Media keeps saying he should be taking over games with how much $ he makes. Regardless of the QB play I think browns D gets it done.
 

Truly the only thing I care about are Chubb and Mixon as I have both on my Fantasy team 

Edited September 17, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[Niagara Bill]

On 9/14/2020 at 2:50 PM, Jauronimo said:

OBJ, Jarvis, Hunt, Chubb, Njoku, Hooper and they score 6 points.  Unbelievable.  

Can you imagine living with Jarvis and OBJ in a meeting. They could possibly be sincere about their role....they could never be part of the team...way to self centred and selfish. As often occurs some success , then the money fills the pockets, then the mouth takes over the talent.