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Jags cut Fournette; clears waivers (update - signing with Tampa)


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2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

The Jags will be so happy if fans are not allowed back. It seems like they have been preparing for Covid for 2 years now.

 

Thought I read the Jags will be allowing 16,000 fans into their stadium for games.

 

Thought it very unfair that they weren't required to reduce their game attendance at all.

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8 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

All depends on how many conditional draft picks they are offered.

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If I had to guess, I'd say he goes to San Fran or Tampa Bay.  Hopefully to the NFC.

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10 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Thought I read the Jags will be allowing 16,000 fans into their stadium for games.

 

Thought it very unfair that they weren't required to reduce their game attendance at all.

They will be lucky to get 16,000 fans to come to a game. What a mess they are. No miracle for St Doug there.

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4 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

They will be lucky to get 16,000 fans to come to a game. What a mess they are. No miracle for St Doug there.

 

When you keep dumping your best players, you're rebuilding.  Can't believe they didn't dump St Doug at the same time.  May be they figure they will be lousy this season regardless, so lets keep him one more year to save having to pay two coaches, him and his replacement.

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3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

When you keep dumping your best players, you're rebuilding.  Can't believe they didn't dump St Doug at the same time.  May be they figure they will be lousy this season regardless, so lets keep him one more year to save having to pay two coaches, him and his replacement.

From AFC Championship game two years ago to rebuilding is quite the miracle in itself.

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1 hour ago, Manther said:

I'm going to guess he clears waivers.  I think the $4 million cap hit is why the Jags couldn't trade him.  I think they would of even taken a 7th for him instead of releasing him.  Fournette is a capable RB and can help a team.  So, IMO the teams in the NFL don't want to the cap hit.  He will get through waivers and someone will sign him for $2 million or less.

 

I think it's probably less the cap hit and more the cap hit along with the draft assets being sent away.

 

I don't know what the market is for a running back with multiple 1000 yard seasons who played on bad teams (impacting his production), but $4 million seems reasonable for Fournette, especially on a one year deal.

 

If he clears waivers, I'm guessing he gets a multi year deal and the guaranteed money will be for more than a non guarented $4m waiver claim.

 

Or I have no idea what I'm talking about, totally possible, but to me it's that a 5th or 6th round pick can very easily turn into a serviceable above replacement level rb that is under team control for 4 years. Him not being tradeable is less about spending the $4m this year, and more about keeping the asset for the future imo, and I would be surprised if he clears waivers.

 

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I was surprised when I saw it but then I remembered who the coach was and I started wondering where he would land. I wouldnt be surprised to see him go to KC, Tampa or NE. Are the Jags trying to get Sunshine from Clemson?

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3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

My guesses... Seattle, Vegas, Houston. 

Potential landing spots could be Miami, Chicago, Chargers, Detroit, and Washington.  It seems to me that Washington and the Chargers have the most need.

3 hours ago, Virgil said:

 

 

Why would the Dolphins want him?  Have you seen their depth chart at RB?

He would be an immediate upgrade over Howard.  Breida is a third down guy and the rest are unproven.  Fournette could provide a real running threat to protect Tua when he finally gets out there.  I would hate seeing him go there.

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2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Incredibly overrated player with a terrible attitude, should have been cut before this.   Any running back in the NFL should be able to get four yards a carry, and the receptions last year were 100% a result of having a young quarterback.   Fournette is Darren McFadden with a worse attitude.  

Funny enough that’s who I’ve always compared him to. He is a poor mans Darren McFadden

2 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:

It will be the Jets, they are trying to find healthy RBs and their recent trade with Miami fell through. Throw in Gase and Bell having issues and the Jets being high on the waiver wire I think he ends up there 

Yeah but No one is going to trade for Bells current contract. Jets shot themselves in the foot by giving him that kind of deal. Because by adding Leonard that means you would have to trade bell. Leonard won’t be a back up 

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1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Funny enough that’s who I’ve always compared him to. He is a poor mans Darren McFadden

As good as McFadden was he should have been the next Adrian Peterson.   He either had a ten cent brain or really didnt care about football that much.  Still had a long career but he should have been a world beater with all the talent he had. 

 

I get the same sense with Fournette, he stopped being Leonard Fournette the day he became a millionaire.

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4 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

I think he is a decent RB but I like Singletary and Moss better...there is simply no carries for him here..

A lot of people here just assume that Zach Moss is going to be an instantly positive contributor. I'm not saying he won't be, but the kid is a 3rd round pick. If he's never any good in the NFL it would be far from a shock. The fact that Singletary has been as good as he has so far should be more of a surprise than it would have been had he been terrible.

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1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

As good as McFadden was he should have been the next Adrian Peterson.   He either had a ten cent brain or really didnt care about football that much.  Still had a long career but he should have been a world beater with all the talent he had. 

 

I get the same sense with Fournette, he stopped being Leonard Fournette the day he became a millionaire.

That’s what happens when you pay these players these days, they stop caring and only want to collect a check

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Just now, BullBuchanan said:

A lot of people here just assume that Zach Moss is going to be an instantly and positive contributor. I'm not saying he won't be, but the kid is a 3rd round pick. If he's never any good int he NFL is would be far from a shock. The fact that Singletary has been as good as he has so far should be more of a surprise than it would have been had he been terrible.

I think Moss will definitely be a positive contributor to Buffalo. He’s a very good complimentary back to Singletary.

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Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Which players?

The players of today, the rookies coming out of the draft and some of the veterans. The NFL is not what it used to be. Back then It was all about the team, now it’s all about I’m only loyal as much as you pay me. Players who have good contracts sit out and refuse to participate because they want better deals than what they’re getting. It’s ridiculous play the ***** game and be a team player. Too many me players in today’s NFL. But ultimately I blame Free agency for the demise of the NFL. Free agency has killed the game.

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2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

A lot of people here just assume that Zach Moss is going to be an instantly positive contributor. I'm not saying he won't be, but the kid is a 3rd round pick. If he's never any good in the NFL it would be far from a shock. The fact that Singletary has been as good as he has so far should be more of a surprise than it would have been had he been terrible.

I like Moss... may not be a first round pick but he was super talented coming out of college... and he’s looked good in camp.. not to mention I think our line will see a huge jump with Ford at RG and Williams at RT.. never draft a RB high nor pay one top dollar... 3rd round is about the highest I’d draft one.... o-line is more important..

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4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Based on what?

Based on a good camp that he’s having and what he did in college. He’s not a first round pick by any means but I think he will definitely help the running game here. It sounds to me your not a fan of moss. But to be honest our running game will only be as good as our O line

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4 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

What are this guys "issues" again? He sat on the bench (when inactive) and won a grievance against the team? 

1600 yards from scrimmage last year - he's no bum. I like him in Chicago! 

 

What surprised me the most is he had 76 receptions last year. I heard that and immediately looked it up because it didn’t sound right. 

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I would love him to be our third back but I would expect someone else to give him more money for more playing time. The only way he comes to Buffalo is if he believes he has a chance to be our one.

Yeah.... I don’t see that happening... questionable work ethic.... came to camp out of shape before...probably wants to be paid at least $5M... that’s more than Singletary/Moss combined... he’d be paid starter money to be our 3rd back... not a process guy...?‍♂️

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11 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Based on a good camp that he’s having and what he did in college. He’s not a first round pick by any means but I think he will definitely help the running game here. It sounds to me your not a fan of moss. But to be honest our running game will only be as good as our O line


That's not at all the case. I just think it's extremely presumptive to think that a 3rd round running back should be counted on to be a significant part of your offense. 

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This is unsurprising to me.  He has underperformed his draft status, not been a team player, and clearly was not part of their long term plan.  For those suggesting we sign him, no thanks.  No better than third best on this team and not worth the headaches. 

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5 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

My guesses... Seattle, Vegas, Houston. 

 

I think he does to the better teams. Vegas isn’t one of them.  

3 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

When you keep dumping your best players, you're rebuilding.  Can't believe they didn't dump St Doug at the same time.  May be they figure they will be lousy this season regardless, so lets keep him one more year to save having to pay two coaches, him and his replacement.

 

They need someone there for the time until the team moves to London...

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57 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:


That's not at all the case. I just think it's extremely presumptive to think that a 3rd round running back should be counted on to be a significant part of your offense. 

A lot of good RBs are drafted in the 3rd round. It's not extremely presumptive to think so. Kamara, Kareem Hunt, David Johnson,  Drake....

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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:


That's not at all the case. I just think it's extremely presumptive to think that a 3rd round running back should be counted on to be a significant part of your offense. 

Where was Singletary drafted?

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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:


That's not at all the case. I just think it's extremely presumptive to think that a 3rd round running back should be counted on to be a significant part of your offense. 

 

McD has presumed that 2 years in  a row....

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6 hours ago, Virgil said:

Who's going to be the guy in Jax now?

 

I love that they did this after two of my auction leagues

Yea I hate when that happens. We have ours on 9-5-20 to at least help with that kind of thing. It’s hard to get 10/12 guys together for a draft  but the sooner you make it to the start of the season the better off you are.

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