Bills coaches called Joe Gibbs for advice

[nucci]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/14/bills-coaches-picked-joe-gibbs-brain-about-coaching-in-a-turbulent-season/

[JohnNord]

Not sure how this is newsworthy

[nucci]

2 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Not sure how this is newsworthy

then ignore it and don't respond

[Artful Dodger]

9 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Not sure how this is newsworthy

 

One of McDermott's biggest strengths is that he's smart enough to be willing to reach out to people he can learn from. 

 

When he first became coach, he went out to dinner with with Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Smith, Tasker, etc. to try to get a sense of where they thought the team had gone off the rails.

[Don Otreply]

This is why we think highly of our HC and GM, they do their homework. 
No wonder this organization is light years a head of where we were in the past. Create a Plan and have plan B,C&D ready to be implemented. 
It sure is refreshing to have adults in the room running the show.

 

 Go Bills!! 

[DFT]

23 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Not sure how this is newsworthy

Our coach and staff were humble enough to reach out to a perennial winner, HOF and SB winning head coach to talk through their opportunities.  Why is that news-worthy?  Because it’s a first for this organization.  Here’s a coach who’s won where few have.  Despite his clout and the right to be egotistical about what he’s done, he’s still hungry, driven and humble enough to ensure his areas of opportunity (experience) don’t go without effort to rectify.  This is the first time I’ve seen a winning coach for the Bills make a move like this.   Either ego (Ryan, Marrone, Gailey, Williams) or ineptitude (Jauron, Mularkey) has prevented it in the past.  Closest I’ve seen (Lynn and Schwartz) was experience issues.  This is very impressive to hear in my opinion.

[CommonCents]

Just like when you saw Bills players dancing during Renegade, you realize the preparation and detail is much different. You want to compete with NE? You need to work like NE. 

 

McD understands process. Hopefully he gets a little better in game. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

As manning says...  your either getting better of getting worse, Nothing stays the same..

[Artful Dodger]

7 minutes ago, DFT said:

 Despite his clout and the right to be egotistical about what he’s done, he’s still hungry, driven and humble enough to ensure his areas of opportunity (experience) don’t go without effort to rectify.  This is the first time I’ve seen a winning coach for the Bills make a move like this.   Either ego (Ryan, Marrone, Gailey, Williams) or ineptitude (Jauron, Mularkey) has prevented it in the past. 

 

Yeah.  It tells me he doesn't have a large ego.  He just wants to win.

 

Marv Levy used to say something like, "It's amazing what you can get done when no one cares who gets the credit."    Both Levy and McDermott are really smart coaches, and not coincidentally, neither has a big ego.

[Jauronimo]

51 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Not sure how this is newsworthy

Did you read it?

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Did you read it?

 

Don’t be unreasonable. 

 

 

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

then ignore it and don't respond

Edited August 14, 2020 by Warcodered

[dollars 2 donuts]

I know it may be just me, but I have found it impossible to dislike Joe Gibbs over the years.  

 

Outstanding coach.  Solid human being.  Digs fast cars.

 

If I find out he likes flats over drums and loves watching old clips from the Hilarious House of Frightenstein I might have to create an idol in his honor.

Edited August 14, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts

[Mike in Horseheads]

Well if the wheels fall off the band wagon we'll be trained to fix that too!

Edited August 14, 2020 by Mike in Horseheads

[Royale with Cheese]

3 hours ago, JohnNord said:

Not sure how this is newsworthy

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 hours ago, nucci said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/14/bills-coaches-picked-joe-gibbs-brain-about-coaching-in-a-turbulent-season/

on what not to do?

 

 

 

[The Dean]

3 hours ago, JohnNord said:

Not sure how this is newsworthy

 

 

 I guarantee this comment wasn't post worthy.

 

Kudos to the coaching staff for reaching out to others who can add to the knowledge base. Preparation and flexibility will likely be more important this year than is typical, IMO

 

 

[klos63]

very newsworthy item. Thanks for posting.

[JohnNord]

8 hours ago, Artful Dodger said:

 

One of McDermott's biggest strengths is that he's smart enough to be willing to reach out to people he can learn from. 

 

When he first became coach, he went out to dinner with with Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Smith, Tasker, etc. to try to get a sense of where they thought the team had gone off the rails.

Right but it seems like this kind of thing is pretty common in the NFL.  Josh Allen said that at his press conference he reached out to Drew Brees and Peyton Manning.  I think Manning himself said that he consulted with a number of QB’s in the offseason.

 

I just didn’t think reaching out to Joe Gibbs was that big of a story.  Maybe it’s just me

[BillsPride12]

McDermott leaves no stone unturned 

[4_kidd_4]

We can only hope that he was reaching out for some fashion advice...

[1ManRaid]

9 hours ago, JohnNord said:

Not sure how this is newsworthy

This is a Buffalo Bills discussion forum, not the front page headline of the freaking New York Times.

[HOUSE]

Wasn't he the drummer for the Bee Gees ?

[GRHater69]

I think this has a lot to do with how the Redskins handled the games in '87 with replacement players. Polian commented on this recently with NFL Network on how the 'Skins were essentially running another set of practices with guys to have them ready to go for when the players association shut down the season. Polian feels that NFL teams should be doing separate practices with their reserves and keep them isolated from the rest of the team in case there is an outbreak.

 

 

[KD in CA]

Hey, wait a minute....how come I never see any asterisks next to Gibbs' name?   I though seasons like those and this one didn't really count.

[Locomark]

This is what good organizations and leaders do. They seek many solid opinions and inputs from other qualified leaders to help them formulate the best plan.

 

Arrogant leaders think they know it all and don’t do this. They ultimately get caught making poor decisions because they surround themselves with yes people who just nod and confirm they know everything. Meanwhile their competition continues to learn and evolve and eventually surpasses them. 

 

Its the old “two heads are better than one” saying. 

 

 

Edited August 15, 2020 by Locomark

[NoHuddleKelly12]

21 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I know it may be just me, but I have found it impossible to dislike Joe Gibbs over the years.  

 

Outstanding coach.  Solid human being.  Digs fast cars.

 

If I find out he likes flats over drums and loves watching old clips from the Hilarious House of Frightenstein I might have to create an idol in his honor.

For the love of all that’s SBXXVI, take it all back D2D!!! 

[Capco]

14 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

For the love of all that’s SBXXVI, take it all back D2D!!! 

I still feel like there was something up with this game. The Skins just teed off on our receivers all game without ever getting a flag.

[4_kidd_4]

2 minutes ago, Capco said:

I still feel like there was something up with this game. The Skins just teed off on our receivers all game without ever getting a flag.

 

 

[Punching Bag]

16 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Wasn't he the drummer for the Bee Gees ?

 

If only he could have as many 1st place hits as them.

[Capco]

3 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

 

 

 

HA!...  Unreal.  

 

Marv doesn't seem like the type to throw out accusations like that just because his team is losing.  

[NobesBLO13]

So many organizations (not necessarily sports) are reactive. To see one that is proactive is impressive. And the fact that it’s the Bills lights a fire under my butt that this team is going somewhere.

[4_kidd_4]

40 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

HA!...  Unreal.  

 

Marv doesn't seem like the type to throw out accusations like that just because his team is losing.  

 

Agree. 

 

And we often saw him animated, pissed and passionate on the sidelines, but in this clip you can definitely see the sheer rage in his eyes. Like 100% anger. 

[machine gun kelly]

45 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

 

 

4 Kid, I forgot how bad the officiating that game was, but it was disgusting.  I don’t know if we would have won, but it would have been a very close game had either they officiated properly, or we do the same crap to them just lighting up their WR’s every time.  That game was embarrassing, but it wouldn’t have been either way had it been done right.  At least we could have gone into the back to back Dallas games with the confidence maybe winning one of the two.  There is always a chance especially the second Dallas one we could have won.  I hate to bring up the past, but we were winning in that one at the half.  To his credit, Marv wouldn’t get in the mud with the other team.  
 

Gibbs though was a solid SB winning coach winning three with three different QB’s.  That just didn’t happen back then before free agency.

[Capco]

8 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Gibbs though was a solid SB winning coach winning three with three different QB’s.  That just didn’t happen back then before free agency.

 

This is something that is sometimes overlooked when analyzing Gibbs.  To do what he did before free agency is nothing short of remarkable.  He was the textbook definition of a coach.  

[machine gun kelly]

Capco, I’ve got one for you and I really don’t know the answer so not a trick question.  His first stint as HC for the blank team, was until 1992.  He then retired and eventually went into the NASCAR thing which he won Hall of Fame for them which I read is the only person I could find in the HOF for two sports.

 

So here’s the question and I’m sure one of our esteemed colleagues will know.  It’s reported he was inducted into the NFL HOF in 1996.  That’s only four years after his first retirement.  I don’t know if rules were different then as I tried to find an answer.  Why not five years in 1997?  He’s definitely a HOF Coach.  It wasn’t his fault on the crap calls on our SB.  If I’m A coach and I was for years, I’m not complaining when things go my way.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

2 hours ago, Capco said:

I still feel like there was something up with this game. The Skins just teed off on our receivers all game without ever getting a flag.

Couldn’t agree more with Reed on this

 

[Victory Formation]

It shows a level of humility that is present within our leadership. I think that’s a huge positive because when you are humble you can ask yourself serious questions and then you are able to get the right answers and grow from it. It’s the complete opposite of the Adam Gase, Rex Ryan and Gregg Williams type of people of the world who think they know everything.. Could never stand those types, they’re annoying and usually they’re the ones that know the least.. 

[RaoulDuke79]

On 8/14/2020 at 2:33 PM, dollars 2 donuts said:

I know it may be just me, but I have found it impossible to dislike Joe Gibbs over the years.  

 

Outstanding coach.  Solid human being.  Digs fast cars.

 

If I find out he likes flats over drums and loves watching old clips from the Hilarious House of Frightenstein I might have to create an idol in his honor.

It's a pretty damn impressive feat to win championships in 2 major sports. Guy has to be doing something right. 

[Capco]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I don’t know if rules were different then as I tried to find an answer.  Why not five years in 1997?  

What I would do is look for news articles written about his induction.  If there was some type of conflict with the necessary number of years before possible induction, any reporter worth their salt would have talked about it.  Even if it was right on the cusp (for example, if the rule in 1996 was 4 years), that probably would have been mentioned.