Nick the Greek Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 No, he was a one “hit” wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 To me, a 2nd year RB with a rookie RB and TJ Yeldon is anything but set at RB. I'm not advocating bringing in Karlos, but we could still use a vet RB who isn't TJ Yeldon. Devonta Freeman, Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller are still out there. Devin is still learning the ropes, there's a reason Antonio Williams went undrafted and Yeldon sat most of last year for a reason(he's not good and he's soft). I love the Moss pick, but again, he's a rookie. Hopefully we end up with: Devin Singletary Zack Moss Veteran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dopey said: To me, a 2nd year RB with a rookie RB and TJ Yeldon is anything but set at RB. I'm not advocating bringing in Karlos, but we could still use a vet RB who isn't TJ Yeldon. Devonta Freeman, Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller are still out there. Devin is still learning the ropes, there's a reason Antonio Williams went undrafted and Yeldon sat most of last year for a reason(he's not good and he's soft). I love the Moss pick, but again, he's a rookie. Hopefully we end up with: Devin Singletary Zack Moss Veteran It doesn’t take much experience to learn the ropes at the RB position. Guys come in and contribute immediately. Yeldon is your vet who is 3rd on your depth chart so that’s not much of an issue IMO. Singletary is also a vet now who had a year mentoring under Gore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I'd have no issue with Karlos getting another shot on an incentive based contract being signed post week 1 so salary is not guaranteed. He clearly did not deal with off-season well and wacky weed is definitely something he is addicted to. But that is not important now, right? He stop eating trays of brownies for another shot in NFL, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Mountain Man said: Maybe. Let's get Dri Archer to be our return guy whilst we're at it. ..thought the Argos are his 3rd chance....NOT here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: He's too young. We should go back and get Curtis Brown. I always enjoyed the innovative ways that he could muff a punt or fumble on the return. You're dating yourself my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaSnow Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I’ll never wish ill to someone trying to turn their life around. Best of luck to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bferra13 said: Was a dam good draft pick I must say by Whaley. Guy has no one to blame but himself. Hes most likely toast by now after being out of the league and professional conditioning programs so long. He played one season and then was out of the league in year two...oh yeah great pick Whaley! Edited May 9, 2020 by Phil The Thrill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 He deserves another chance. That being said, he’s probably not going to be good enough to make a team at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 With Moss holding out he might be an option I hope everyone realises I am kidding 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Maybe as a mentor. We like mentors here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I don't mind smoking, certainly indulge from time to time. I don't work for a company that does testing and they have a fairly liberal outlook on it. That said if your job was on the line and you had to quit but couldn't. This is marijuana we are talking about. A substance I can use for years straight and stop immediately with no side effects outside mild irritability for a day or two. If you can't stop, I don't think I could ever employee somebody at even 50k a year, let alone several hundred thousand to a million. It's different in the league now, marijuana, so directly, it's not an issue for him anymore. But his past actions show his character likely still is. I wouldn't touch him with somebody else's dixie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Is he still eating for 3? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) Only if he is holding and sharing. Edited May 9, 2020 by BuffaloMatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 10 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: Nah. He truly squandered an amazing opportunity. He chose food and weed over his job multiple times. Doesn’t seem like a process guy And his wife or a girlfriend to that list. She was clearly enabling his stupid decisions and making excuses for him, which mage things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 It all depends on why he wants to return to the NFL. If it's purely for money then it probably will end the same for him. I don't think this Bills team needs him. If some other team gives him a chance then I wish him the best. Everyone deserves a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, NewEra said: He deserves another chance. That being said, he’s probably not going to be good enough to make a team at this point Deserves? Not really in my opinion. That being said, if he truly earns another shot, I wouldn’t be opposed to it. Preferably not with the Bills though. We are good at RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: You're dating yourself my friend. I was traumatized by number 47 as a small child....lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Sure, he deserves another shot in the NFL if he's good enough. But he's definitely more of a Rex guy than an McD guy ... so not with the Beels. 46 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: With Moss holding out he might be an option I hope everyone realises I am kidding Is the Wild Mushroom still going? Very cool bar that I went to exactly 22 years ago, today (it was during our honeymoon, which is why I remember the date). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 If the Bills signed him, would it be as a RB, OT or NT ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Deserves? Not really in my opinion. That being said, if he truly earns another shot, I wouldn’t be opposed to it. Preferably not with the Bills though. We are good at RB. In other cases like Karlos, players got another chance. Why wouldn’t Karlos. Based on the past players situations alone, he deserves another chance. Dude failed weed tests? Which is now legal. Gimme a break. Dude smoked weed. Again.....that being said, he’s probably not good enough to stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: In other cases like Karlos, players got another chance. Why wouldn’t Karlos. Based on the past players situations alone, he deserves another chance. Dude failed weed tests? Which is now legal. Gimme a break. Dude smoked weed. Again.....that being said, he’s probably not good enough to stick. He had more issues that just smoking weed in my opinion. I am not saying he shouldn’t get a shot, I’m just quibbling over the word “deserves”. I’ve not seen enough evidence yet to show he had put in the work and matured to the point to deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 We have 2 amazing running backs why would we want any part of this turd? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: He had more issues that just smoking weed in my opinion. I am not saying he shouldn’t get a shot, I’m just quibbling over the word “deserves”. I’ve not seen enough evidence yet to show he had put in the work and matured to the point to deserve it. He “deserves” another shot based on the chances that other player got after doing much worse on multiple occasions. Why shouldn’t he get the same opportunity? what are his other problems, in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Does this mean Moss is going to hold out........time to panic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, NewEra said: In other cases like Karlos, players got another chance. Why wouldn’t Karlos. Based on the past players situations alone, he deserves another chance. Dude failed weed tests? Which is now legal. Gimme a break. Dude smoked weed. Again.....that being said, he’s probably not good enough to stick. I agree. Weed is not an issue. if he shows he can play again he deserves a chance. The age doesn’t factor in because he wasn’t playing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Sure, he deserves another shot in the NFL if he's good enough. But he's definitely more of a Rex guy than an McD guy ... so not with the Beels. Is the Wild Mushroom still going? Very cool bar that I went to exactly 22 years ago, today (it was during our honeymoon, which is why I remember the date). I am sure its called something else now. I don't drive near that end of town much anymore. They used to sponsor our slow pitch and ball hockey teams way back when 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 You know it was bad when Rex thought you were out of shape... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: In other cases like Karlos, players got another chance. Why wouldn’t Karlos. Based on the past players situations alone, he deserves another chance. Dude failed weed tests? Which is now legal. Gimme a break. Dude smoked weed. Again.....that being said, he’s probably not good enough to stick. I mean - maybe? Guy had 100 touches 5 years ago. I wouldn't consider him a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Was he McCoy's backup? I think he was playing with Freddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dneveu said: I mean - maybe? Guy had 100 touches 5 years ago. I wouldn't consider him a priority. I’m not saying I want him on the Bills. I’m saying that he should have an opportunity to tryout (for any team) at least. Edited May 9, 2020 by NewEra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: what are his other problems, in your opinion? Inability to keep himself inn football shape is the first one that comes to mind. That one likely leads to others, such as failing to follow coaches instructions, lack of maturity, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 He’s a fat lazy idiot who takes no accountability for his own dumb decisions. He tries to blame Whaley, who gave him an opportunity after a bunch of dumb stuff at FSU, as the reason he fails. The only I feel bad for his kids. If only Fat Karlos had a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Inability to keep himself inn football shape is the first one that comes to mind. That one likely leads to others, such as failing to follow coaches instructions, lack of maturity, etc... Inability to keep himself in football shape is the only thing that comes to mind and the rest is all speculation. In other words, he deserves another chance. You’re being unreasonable. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I'll tell you what... if he plays in the CFL for a couple of seasons and has production we should bring him back and have him come in and pull a mix between Ricky Williams(weed) and Fred Jackson(age). Not really though, we have Zach Moss and Devin Singletary. If we need to address the backfield it will be through the draft or FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 he may be a good pickup for the Steelers to take a flyer on. Big back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Deserves? No, he doesn't deserve another chance. Will he get another chance? Depends on what team needs a big back and no better options are available. Won't be with Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: he may be a good pickup for the Steelers to take a flyer on. Big back. They already tried to give him a shot because of his brother vouching for him. He burned that bridge as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I apologize if anyone has asked this already (too busy to read five pages of comments) -- would KW be entitled to a veteran's minimum salary? If he could be signed for relatively cheap I don't see this as a problem. I love Zach Moss but Moss has been hurt from time to time, and KW could provide the thunder (along with Singletary's lightning) if Moss is unavailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Monty98 said: He's been all in on the Bills even after we let him go and still cheers us on. I'd be okay with bringing him back should Moss not turn out and Williams looks good in Toronto Moss will be fine, he is a dedicated hard worker, fits the McD mold exactly. I highly doubt the Bills would be interested. I would not even consider him until I see what he does in Toronto, on and off the field. I am an old AFL fan, and that league made it, in part by giving players second and third chances - Cookie Gilcrest included. Of course they had little choice at the time. The league is different now and there are lots of young fringe players staying in shape and waiting for a call. Edited May 10, 2020 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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