LB48 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Karlos played just one season in the NFL with the Bills. He was drafted in the 5th Round in 2015 and in his rookie year he averaged 5.6 yards per carry. At 6’1, 225 lbs he was a force out of the backfield with 4.48 speed. Williams had a couple 100-yard games in ‘15. He finished his rookie season with seven touchdowns. He tied an NFL record by scoring a touchdown in each of his first six career games while being a back-up to LeSean McCoy. Karlos was suspended 3 times by the NFL for violating the substance abuse policy. He was released by the Bills in 2016. These suspensions have now been lifted. In 2020 he was signed by the Toronto Argonauts in the CFL as a free-agent. At age 27 - - does he deserve another chance in the NFL and in particular the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Nah. He truly squandered an amazing opportunity. He chose food and weed over his job multiple times. Doesn’t seem like a process guy 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbillsfan Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Not my call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Fat and dumb. Just what we're looking for when we're already gonna have a tough time reducing to 53/55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Was a dam good draft pick I must say by Whaley. Guy has no one to blame but himself. Hes most likely toast by now after being out of the league and professional conditioning programs so long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 It's not for me to say a guy doesn't deserve a second chance. I hope he does well, wherever he plays. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 He's been all in on the Bills even after we let him go and still cheers us on. I'd be okay with bringing him back should Moss not turn out and Williams looks good in Toronto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Let someone else take a chance on him. The Bills have changed, they no longer need to go taking chances on old FAs who have done nothing for years. Signings like Karlos Williams as a FA belong in a different era 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Let someone else take a chance on him. The Bills have changed, they no longer need to go taking chances on old FAs who have done nothing for years. Signings like Karlos Williams as a FA belong in a different era I was just about to post the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 If he ends up being the best back in the CFL and stays out of trouble then I would have no problem with bringing him in as the third running back if he's willing to be that. 1 hour ago, Mountain Man said: The Bills have changed, they no longer need to go taking chances on old FAs Well for an RB he woildnt be considered young anymore but at 27 years old with only one year of pro football on his treads, you can't consider him old either... A big issue here, however, is that the CFL is in danger of not having a season or even a future from what I've heard. That may eliminate his only real opportunity to make a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: Doesn’t seem like a process guy He's more of a 'processed foods' kinda guy 2 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Is this the mandatory Karlos Williams thread for the month of May? It only took 9 days, that's good. Okay, who's turn is it to start it in June? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 hours ago, 32ABBA said: I was just about to post the same thing. So, if Karlos says 'Take a Chance on Me', you're out. Got it. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Mountain Man said: Let someone else take a chance on him. The Bills have changed, they no longer need to go taking chances on old FAs who have done nothing for years. Signings like Karlos Williams as a FA belong in a different era ...thought the Steelers did but that didn't work out....perhaps the third time is the charm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...thought the Steelers did but that didn't work out....perhaps the third time is the charm...... Maybe. Let's get Dri Archer to be our return guy whilst we're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 No. We cut Fred Jackson for that POS. ***** him. 58 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: So, if Karlos says 'Take a Chance on Me', you're out. Got it. ? We really gonna do that again? Enough! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 5 hours ago, first_and_ten said: It's not for me to say a guy doesn't deserve a second chance. I hope he does well, wherever he plays. Fair enough. If he hurt other people I don't have much sympathy. If not, I wish him well. Btw he was a very exciting, talented running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, CSBill said: Is this the mandatory Karlos Williams thread for the month of May? It only took 9 days, that's good. Okay, who's turn is it to start it in June? Thank you. If I can help it, there won’t be a June thread. 5 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: Nah. He truly squandered an amazing opportunity. He chose food and weed over his job multiple times. Doesn’t seem like a process guy No room for morons on this team. Pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: Maybe. Let's get Dri Archer to be our return guy whilst we're at it. He's too young. We should go back and get Curtis Brown. I always enjoyed the innovative ways that he could muff a punt or fumble on the return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: We really gonna do that again? Enough! ? 'Mamma Mia'! 'Why Did it Have to be Me'? ? *? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Btw he was a very exciting, talented running back. Was he? That's not how I remember him. He was a very efficient 1 cut runner, who had decent speed and power. But exciting? Not really. He was a solid complimentary back. That's all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, CSBill said: Is this the mandatory Karlos Williams thread for the month of May? It only took 9 days, that's good. Okay, who's turn is it to start it in June? Sorry, I’d do it, but I’ve already drawn the “We should hire Jim Kelly as our QB coach, Steve Tasker to run STs and Darryl Talley to oversee the LBs” thread. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 If he had a season in the CFL, if there is one, and was an alter boy and in tremendous shape, no problem at least as a camp buddy the following year, but I doubt any of that would happen so pass. People typically are condemned at least some of them to repeat their own mistakes. I seriously doubt as well Moss doesn’t pan out. We are set at RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Sorry, I’d do it, but I’ve already drawn the “We should hire Jim Kelly as our QB coach, Steve Tasker to run STs and Darryl Talley to oversee the LBs” thread. Don't forget your part time gig as a judge on 'Jeopardy'. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) The more interesting RB debate for me is the suggestion on a Bleacher Report UDFA article that Antonio Williams could take Yeldon's spot. It'd save over 1m in cap space and Williams is a special teams guy which is a big help for your RB3 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2890548-every-nfl-teams-undrafted-free-agent-most-likely-to-make-their-2020-roster Edited May 9, 2020 by Mountain Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I'd bring Cam Phillips back from the XFL before Karlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 He outplayed McCoy that year when he was on the field. An incredibly sad story. What a future he had in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 6 hours ago, first_and_ten said: It's not for me to say a guy doesn't deserve a second chance. I hope he does well, wherever he plays. Do consider this would be his fourth chance, 1st chance was getting drafted by the Bills, then suspended 3 times after his initial chance, this is chance #4, not that some team should not sign him but. It ain’t his 2nd chance. Maybe the light went on finally, but up to this point the guy is an incredible dummy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) I’m all for second chances when guys make mistakes. This is especially true for young guys. With that being said, he’s been out of the league for years. When last seen he was fat and out of shape. He felt entitled to that NFL job. Now maybe he’s been humbled and will do the things necessary to EARN that second chance. The next step there is this CFL contract. If he goes out and shows that he can play still an NFL team will welcome him back. The ball is in his court now. Edited May 9, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: ...but up to this point the guy is an incredible dummy. I picture Redd Foxx (as Fred Sanford) saying that. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 7 hours ago, LB48 said: Karlos played just one season in the NFL with the Bills. He was drafted in the 5th Round in 2015 and in his rookie year he averaged 5.6 yards per carry. At 6’1, 225 lbs he was a force out of the backfield with 4.48 speed. Williams had a couple 100-yard games in ‘15. He finished his rookie season with seven touchdowns. He tied an NFL record by scoring a touchdown in each of his first six career games while being a back-up to LeSean McCoy. Karlos was suspended 3 times by the NFL for violating the substance abuse policy. He was released by the Bills in 2016. These suspensions have now been lifted. In 2020 he was signed by the Toronto Argonauts in the CFL as a free-agent. At age 27 - - does he deserve another chance in the NFL and in particular the Bills? Not with the Bills. Rob Riddick had 12 rushing TDS for Buffalo. I don’t want him on 2020 Bills either. Karl’s is not process guy. I trust Beane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 The Karlos Williams Thread Saga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Mountain Man said: Was he? That's not how I remember him. He was a very efficient 1 cut runner, who had decent speed and power. But exciting? Not really. He was a solid complimentary back. That's all I enjoy a power running game. The man was very strong, hard to bring down and had surprising speed. Did his ypc lead the team in that season? I don't recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I wonder if it's sunk in that he absolutely squandered the opportunity to make life changing money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 He did blow it ... but was fun to watch that year .. he was a wrecking ball ... too bad he didn't have McDermott as his coach from the beginning may of been different outcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Hope he does get a chance but not with the Bills right now, we are good at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Jpsredemption said: He outplayed McCoy that year when he was on the field. An incredibly sad story. What a future he had in front of him. I did not follow staff timelines. Was Williams here when Rob Ryan was here? Attempting to connect the dots here...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF4LOU Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 He had a 2nd chance with thenl Steelers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Mountain Man said: The more interesting RB debate for me is the suggestion on a Bleacher Report UDFA article that Antonio Williams could take Yeldon's spot. It'd save over 1m in cap space and Williams is a special teams guy which is a big help for your RB3 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2890548-every-nfl-teams-undrafted-free-agent-most-likely-to-make-their-2020-roster Thanks for posting that. Interesting. A Williams seems to be the forgotten man. Maybe this kid has a lot of game. As for Karlos. If he shows he can still play AND he has grown up some, I would give him a shot. Guys are young when they come in the league. A lot of them were not taught how to act like young adults or had good role models. I don't think he did anything horrible. He seemed like a fun guy to be around. Carefree personality. If he can still run, he should and will get a shot with someone. Talent is talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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