Chicken Boo Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 The Bills are as good at drafting RBs as the Steelers are at wideouts. Excellent pick! Singletary or Moss can start on a given week and the team won't miss a beat. This team is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, PIZ said: It's obviously the kinda stuff you say when you draft a guy, but nonetheless this is great to hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: He def looks the part.... I gotta be honest....when I look at AJ I see a young DE that could use some work in the weight room on his body (and this is not a knock on him...he is a naturally huge person who can get better under an NFL trainer) Think he's a big framed naturally dense body mass guy who can play at 290 and look much lighter I can see him as the big end playing the run taking on the TE/T double I can see him if we run any 3-4 as DE. He can slide inside in the 4-3 if were up against a pass heavy team or they are playing catch up. He has a very high floor and at pick #54 a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: There were heavy resources (including a 2nd round pick) towards the OL last year.....seriously wondering where a OL would even make this team this year. Its not that they are all pro bowlers.....its that they are solid and the OL in the draft might not be as good? Dawkins - Franchise LT Spain - Didnt give up a sack last year Morse - The big money spend last year Jon F. - highly under rated Ty N./Ford/Williams the only real uncertainty Lots of solid backups.....lots of different position vers While I agree that the 2019 line was decent, it was not necessarily a powerhouse. But better than previous years. Dawkins may or may not be a franchise LT. This season will tell. Spain is adequate. Not great. Morse is big money but I would rather spend that money elsewhere. Jon F is ok. Better backup than a starter. RT - Ford needs to take over and dominate as a 2nd rounder should; or he moves to gaurd and the pick is questioned since we moved up to get him. Edited April 25, 2020 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: The Bills are as good at drafting RBs as the Steelers are at wideouts. Excellent pick! Singletary or Moss can start on a given week and the team won't miss a beat. This team is ready. I think they'll rotate depending on the situation. Moss is the short, tough yardage situation guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I watch a lot of Pac12 football(I'm a night owl and the games go on until 1AM-2AM) and I've been a big fan of Zach Moss for a while. He's a leader, he fights for every inch on every play, and he doesn't quit...a perfect McBeane guy! I couldn't be more excited to see him in a Bills uniform! I like Singletary, and its important to have a 1-2 RB punch, but don't be surprised if Moss is the feature back sooner rather than later. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said: I like Moss’ tape in the Red zone. Hope that means more TDs and fewer FGs. That's our weakness. He definitely looks like a potential solution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Yea adding a 4.65 to a 4.66 isn’t exactly the thunder and lightning pair some are portraying. breakaway speed isn’t what I’d call our strength or what they have targeted. Pull up all of the highlights from last year of RB's breaking 50 yard or longer TDs. Pull up all of the highlights of RBs breaking 20-40 yard TDs. There will be more of these runs. Singletary or Moss can score from 40 or in like most backs. Stefon Diggs is your "homerun hitter". So is Smoke. All the Bills need is for Josh to hit the deep ball when the receiver is open and the Bills will score a lot more points. We also need WRs/TEs to catch it when he puts it on them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said: I like Moss’ tape in the Red zone. Hope that means more TDs and fewer FGs. our run game in the redzone has been terrible when anyone but Allen is running the ball. just get stuffed for 0 yardage or we can never convert the short yardage situations on the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, noacls said: there is no lightning. Both backs run in mid 4.6s Moss runs a 4.52...unless you want to count what he did at the combine on a pulled hammy over his pro day workout. And Singletary definitely plays faster than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Watching highlights, it doesn't make sense. He puts the hurt on guys a good but bigger than he is. I saw a Travis Henry comparison which would be an incredible compliment to Singletary. I would have loved a burner but I can't complain with two backs that have great balance and should move the chains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) Oh yeah, this Bills backfield is going to be fun. https://youtube.com/watch?v=lf_8D-Olkgo Edited April 25, 2020 by ChevyVanMiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I'm guessing their RB board looked something like Taylor Dobbins Moss had AJ not been there they would have taken a RB for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, wvbillsfan said: Not a fan of moss. Productive but not really excited about another running back that runs 4.65. I wanted a home run hitter to backup up Singletary. Devin already gets the tough yards. What does Moss add? Im sure he will be productive. Just not at all the profile I was hoping for Devin is not even close to being the punisher this kid is and he weighs 20 more lbs than Devin. He is a great compliment. Devin runs hard and is physical but this kid will run your ass over. Buffalo will grow to love this kid, has a meaness attitude like Marshawn Lynch when he runs. You asked what does he add? and then you say he will be productive, well that's what we want someone productive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Really good pick. Solid draft. Beane knows how to add pieces. These two are going to be significant contributors, just like Singletary, Knox, Harrison Phillips, Cody Ford, who were also drafted in rounds 2 & 3. i believe Epenesa could be a special player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Can people step back from the ledge now? I think is era of distancing ledge is safest place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Nice job Bills. Two solid draft choices, with tons of college production at positions of need. Depth is what this team needed and they’re filling in those gaps now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, purple haze said: Pull up all of the highlights from last year of RB's breaking 50 yard or longer TDs. Pull up all of the highlights of RBs breaking 20-40 yard TDs. There will be more of these runs. Singletary or Moss can score from 40 or in like most backs. Stefon Diggs is your "homerun hitter". So is Smoke. All the Bills need is for Josh to hit the deep ball when the receiver is open and the Bills will score a lot more points. We also need WRs/TEs to catch it when he puts it on them. I know it’s crazy as a bills fan to go past are we functional to discussing are we fully optimal that’s all I was doing. We added good players and we should function. I think in a dream roster we have a bit more speed but it doesn’t mean we aren’t a functioning group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: And Beasley was already really good at getting open before adding Diggs and landing a great second RB. It's just unfair at this point. Well, the Chiefs are no pushovers, gotta go toe to toe with them. I just love the idea that after Singletary rips off a beautiful 20 yard slash and burn, while the tackler is putting his shoes back on, he looks up to see Moss trotting out to pick up where Singletary left off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Was thinking Kareem Hunt was a good comparison to Moss and would you look at that, Kansas City also drafted Hunt with the 86th pick. Maybe it means nothing, or maybe it means everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: There were heavy resources (including a 2nd round pick) towards the OL last year.....seriously wondering where a OL would even make this team this year. Its not that they are all pro bowlers.....its that they are solid and the OL in the draft might not be as good? Dawkins - Franchise LT Spain - Didnt give up a sack last year Morse - The big money spend last year Jon F. - highly under rated Ty N./Ford/Williams the only real uncertainty Lots of solid backups.....lots of different position vers I think Spain is a weak link, but everyone on the team loves him, so like I said, maybe they get better as a Unit playing together. Plus I know Ryan Bates is one of those Dark Horses we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: I think Spain is a weak link, but everyone on the team loves him, so like I said, maybe they get better as a Unit playing together. Plus I know Ryan Bates is one of those Dark Horses we have. He didnt give up a sack last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: While I agree that the 2019 line was decent, it was not necessarily a powerhouse. Better than previous years. Dawkins may or may not be a franchise LT. This season will tell. Spain is adequate. Not great. Morse is big money but I would rather spend that money elsewhere. Jon F is ok. Better backup than a starter. RT - Ford needs to take over and dominate as a 2nd rounder should; or he moves to gaurd and the pick is questioned since we moved up to get him. All 5 offensive line players were playing with each other for the first time last season and Ford was a rookie at a position that takes adjusting for alot of players. Oline is a unit where continuity matters more so than any other unit. I think all 5 starters along the O-line are average or better players (all of whom are under 30) and there is quality starting caliber depth behind them. I think Ford being more consistent and the continuity will propel the unit from a mid-level unit to a top 10 unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I like this pick alot Bills seemed to be high on him and I can see why. Tremendous vision and contact balance. Good acceleration with deceptive speed, good feet He is marshawn Lynch like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Singletary isn’t outrunning anyone.... don’t know enough about Moss to say the same. Yeah, he only runs past them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 utah's all time leading rusher..you dont achieve that by being a mediocre running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think Spain is a weak link, but everyone on the team loves him, so like I said, maybe they get better as a Unit playing together. Plus I know Ryan Bates is one of those Dark Horses we have You arent to say that about Spain. He didn't allow a sac last year. What's it to like? Is it his run blocking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Oh it definitely makes us better; I’m just not sure if it adds that explosive dimension that the backfield is missing I think they might be going for relentless assault followed by play action. ?♂️ That said, I really like Moss. Primarily because I’ve watched the kid level DEs in pass pro then float out into the flat. It’s infinitely better that Taylor who looks like he pretended to try blocking at times. Thing with Moss is going to be..... how aggressive can our O line be about wearing down front 7’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think Spain is a weak link, but everyone on the team loves him, so like I said, maybe they get better as a Unit playing together. Plus I know Ryan Bates is one of those Dark Horses we have. Spain is at worst a midlevel starting guard. I don't see a weak link on the Oline granted my projection of Ford is optimistic. Dawkins - Above average LT Spain - Average at worst Mitch - Top 5 to 7 player at his position. Feliciano - Average to Above Average Ford - I project him to be more consistent in 2020 and at least be an average RT They have Long, William's, Ty and Bates off the bench all of whom I think are starting caliber players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Different stature but style reminds me of Fred Jackson. Hits holes hard north south type runner, can catch the ball seeks contact. I see him catching a ton of balls with YAC on screens and dumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Glad they took offense. I can put down my Clorox shot until tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassHog Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 We may have the slowest RB core in the league. I like the pick but we need a burner. Yeldon- 4.61, Moss- 4.65, Singletary- 4.66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Offside#76FredSmerlas said: Devin is not even close to being the punisher this kid is and he weighs 20 more lbs than Devin. He is a great compliment. Devin runs hard and is physical but this kid will run your ass over. Buffalo will grow to love this kid, has a meaness attitude like Marshawn Lynch when he runs. You asked what does he add? and then you say he will be productive, well that's what we want someone productive. Not saying we don’t want productive. But I was hoping for an explosive home run hitter to take pressure of Allen so he doesn’t have to “matriculate” the ball down the field. I was being rhetorical with what does Moss bring. I know who he is and what he does. I just think Devin does the exact same thing in “grinding” out the tough yards. I’m positive I’m going to love Moss the first time he runs someone over or moves a pile. He’s a good player. I just wanted a different type of player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: While I agree that the 2019 line was decent, it was not necessarily a powerhouse. But better than previous years. Dawkins may or may not be a franchise LT. This season will tell. Spain is adequate. Not great. Morse is big money but I would rather spend that money elsewhere. Jon F is ok. Better backup than a starter. RT - Ford needs to take over and dominate as a 2nd rounder should; or he moves to gaurd and the pick is questioned since we moved up to get him. Dawkins had a great year Spain gave up ZERO sacks Morse is an above average center but mentally he is very sharp and gets the line in the right coverage's, extremely cerebral Jon held his own and played solid for us, also filled in nicely at center when needed Ford needs to make a big jump in year two, hurt us often, wouldn't be surprised to see him get beat out by Tyler Neitzke or Daryll Williams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo Junction Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: You arent to say that about Spain. He didn't allow a sac last year. What's it to like? Is it his run blocking? Spain wiffed on a few stunts. Morse picked up a couple then a blitzer got three or a stunt forced a choice on Feliciano. He can improve, as can Ford. I’d like to see Ford get stronger and Spain lose enough weight to get quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I love it, great value at a position of need. Go get a WR in round 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I like this pick alot Bills seemed to be high on him and I can see why. Tremendous vision and contact balance. Good acceleration with deceptive speed, good feet He is marshawn Lynch like Do you think this might scare off the Canadian crowd? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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