PromoTheRobot Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Well who knew? There are TWO football players named Taiwan Jones! The RB we signed and a linebacker named Taiwan M. Jones who played for L.A. in the XFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Yep, this is a special teams move. It's part of the game. Barely. 99% of kickoffs are touch backs and i think its over 65% of punts are fair catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Barely. 99% of kickoffs are touch backs and i think its over 65% of punts are fair catches. I understand, but it's not like signing Taiwan Jones is going to hurt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Barely. 99% of kickoffs are touch backs and i think its over 65% of punts are fair catches. Slightly slanted dork stats. Remember when facts do not support your point make up your own stats. NFL Team Kickoff Touchback Percentage https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/kickoff-touchback-pct Rank Team 2019 1 Tampa Bay 89.80% 2 Carolina 86.84% 3 New Orleans 78.22% 4 LA Rams 76.47% 5 Denver 76.39% 6 Indianapolis 75.95% 7 Minnesota 70.83% 8 Washington 70.59% 9 NY Giants 69.44% 10 Seattle 69.15% 11 Miami 67.12% 12 Cincinnati 64.79% 13 New England 63.54% 14 Philadelphia 62.35% 15 Kansas City 58.82% 16 Buffalo 58.02% 17 Green Bay 56.82% 18 Dallas 55.43% 19 Arizona 54.22% 20 Atlanta 54.02% 21 Chicago 53.73% 22 Oakland 53.52% 23 Baltimore 53.21% 24 Jacksonville 51.32% 25 Houston 50.00% 26 San Francisco 49.57% 27 LA Chargers 48.00% 28 Tennessee 47.83% 29 NY Jets 47.06% 30 Pittsburgh 41.33% 31 Cleveland 37.97% 32 Detroit 31.25% Edited March 18, 2020 by Limeaid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: I understand, but it's not like signing Taiwan Jones is going to hurt us. Agreed. but saying, hes a great special teams guy doesn't carry the same weight as it used to. 17 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Slightly slanted dork stats. Remember when facts do not support your point make up your own stats. There are 4 special teams people that actually matter. Punter kicker Long Snapper Holder The rest don't. but that's not for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 So after he kills us in the playoff game we bring him back... 27 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Slightly slanted dork stats. Remember when facts do not support your point make up your own stats. NFL Team Kickoff Touchback Percentage https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/kickoff-touchback-pct Rank Team 2019 1 Tampa Bay 89.80% 2 Carolina 86.84% 3 New Orleans 78.22% 4 LA Rams 76.47% 5 Denver 76.39% 6 Indianapolis 75.95% 7 Minnesota 70.83% 8 Washington 70.59% 9 NY Giants 69.44% 10 Seattle 69.15% 11 Miami 67.12% 12 Cincinnati 64.79% 13 New England 63.54% 14 Philadelphia 62.35% 15 Kansas City 58.82% 16 Buffalo 58.02% 17 Green Bay 56.82% 18 Dallas 55.43% 19 Arizona 54.22% 20 Atlanta 54.02% 21 Chicago 53.73% 22 Oakland 53.52% 23 Baltimore 53.21% 24 Jacksonville 51.32% 25 Houston 50.00% 26 San Francisco 49.57% 27 LA Chargers 48.00% 28 Tennessee 47.83% 29 NY Jets 47.06% 30 Pittsburgh 41.33% 31 Cleveland 37.97% 32 Detroit 31.25% The Bills kicked short intentionally a lot because they were pretty adept at tackling people inside the 20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: There are 4 special teams people that actually matter. Punter kicker Long Snapper Holder The rest don't. but that's not for this thread. And when called on your made up stats try to redirect conversation elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss him. The guy has heart and has an edge about him. Fearless and committed. Good enough athlete. A Chris Hogan type. He's a guy McDermott can fall in love with. He's like a wrestler. Agreed! He was the guy taking a helmet to helmet hit without a helmet against the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I think he is going to be the guy running McKenzie type plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t think it’s a throwaway or bad signing at all. But they need to use him as a player as well as special teams I guess should have been my statement earlier. Not as a strictly special teams guy. Unlike Perry Jones can take a couple carries or catches. I’m not asking for much lol 5-8 snaps a game. Just a different look for opposing defenses. It was maddening last season. Gotcha. He might get a few touches, but I think they will bring in a different back to work the majority of time with Singletary. Once that guy is brought in Jones' likely role won't bother you as much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, purple haze said: Gotcha. He might get a few touches, but I think they will bring in a different back to work the majority of time with Singletary. Once that guy is brought in Jones' likely role won't bother you as much. I expect a rookie or Carlos Hyde kinda guy to takeover gores touches. I just want 3 active who can all play when needed. It was too predictable with just Gore and singletary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Limeaid said: And when called on your made up stats try to redirect conversation elsewhere. Sure. I didn't look, but from every game i watched, it was a touch back or a penalty on return. I was making a general statement on the internet, on a message board, you got me, congrats... i guess. You should go tell everyone you know. If you have a bad punter or kicker your specials teams will suck, if they are good , your ST will be good. end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I expect a rookie or Carlos Hyde kinda guy to takeover gores touches. I just want 3 active who can all play when needed. It was too predictable with just Gore and singletary. Seems like Yeldon got short changed for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Rc2catch said: And that’s good news. But we still need more than 2 running backs active who can take a carry. Jones is an upgrade over Perry cause he can play offensive snaps. Just saying they need to use more than singletary and another back. We learned this last year. Yeldon isn’t CMC but he should of been active to change things up The draft has not happened yet. Plenty of good backs in rounds 2-5. This is a ST move, 3 phases. And T Jones had a pretty big play in the payoffs..... 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: PJ Walker and Cam Phillips? Cam Phillips Balled out in the XFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: The draft has not happened yet. Plenty of good backs in rounds 2-5. This is a ST move, 3 phases. And T Jones had a pretty big play in the payoffs..... I’m aware of what it is. I never said it was a bad signing. The point was they had 3 active running backs all season, but only 2 played offense. Jones can play some snaps so I hope they mix him in even if it’s limited snaps. I don’t think he’s the backup or nothing silly for singletary. Just need to mix that third back in for new looks for opposing defenses. I fully know who jones is and what he brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I’m aware of what it is. I never said it was a bad signing. The point was they had 3 active running backs all season, but only 2 played offense. Jones can play some snaps so I hope they mix him in even if it’s limited snaps. I don’t think he’s the backup or nothing silly for singletary. Just need to mix that third back in for new looks for opposing defenses. I fully know who jones is and what he brings. Cool, you seemed really down on the addition. I can envision Singletary, RB Draft pick, Jones as the 3 RB and see ya later Yeldon and Perry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Special teams. He was really good for us there a couple years ago. Replaces Senorise Perry I suppose. Yes he was, before he broke his forearm and got put on IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Lorax has spoken 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t like these special teams specific signings. So Jones is going to be active while Yeldon or an actual running back sits every week? They better at least utilize him in the offense a few snaps They don't care if you like them or not. They are smart moves. Get with the program Edited March 19, 2020 by Dablitzkrieg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t like these special teams specific signings. So Jones is going to be active while Yeldon or an actual running back sits every week? They better at least utilize him in the offense a few snaps I think Jones is a better RB than Yeldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: The Bills ended their own season last year with countless bonehead plays before that run.Very misleading. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 They are bringing in another character guy that they know. This guys can make plays when needed and is a ST stud. Worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Yep, this is a special teams move. It's part of the game. I think it’s a psychological move. If he stays, he won’t be able to make a game-winning play against them in the playoffs. Maybe he’ll end up on the practice squad so the coaches can say “This is the guy that made the key play against you in the playoff game. Get him!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bob in STL said: They are bringing in another character guy that they know. This guys can make plays when needed and is a ST stud. Worth a look. Yeah, he replaces perine as the RB3 on gamedays. Or was it Perry? I dont remember and i don't care to look it up. In any case new ST running back wooooo Edited March 19, 2020 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 With the signings of both Taiwan Jones & Tyler Matakevich - clearly the Front Office was significantly concerned with upgrading the performance of the special teams units in this upcoming season. Good for them - it seemed to me that, especially our kick coverage teams, were a liability at times for us last year. As we have plans of being a contender in the AFC this year, we cannot afford to give games away due to special teams weakness. These types of "under the radar" signings can make the difference between making the playoffs or just missing out - or better yet make the difference between playing at home in the playoffs versus going on the road. I hope these guys work out well for our special teams units. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Bulldog said: With the signings of both Taiwan Jones & Tyler Matakevich - clearly the Front Office was significantly concerned with upgrading the performance of the special teams units in this upcoming season. Good for them - it seemed to me that, especially our kick coverage teams, were a liability at times for us last year. As we have plans of being a contender in the AFC this year, we cannot afford to give games away due to special teams weakness. These types of "under the radar" signings can make the difference between making the playoffs or just missing out - or better yet make the difference between playing at home in the playoffs versus going on the road. I hope these guys work out well for our special teams units. Indeed. Kick coverage and returns are typically your biggest yardage swings with change of possession. It’s best to be good at this. Field position is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 He’s whatever but I’m glad they didn’t stupidly pay Howard or some other veteran running back. Draft a guy and say run through the hole. RB has the lowest learning curve of any position. Why they invest on a vet blows my mind. Mike Tolbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 The odds of him catching a game winning touchdown against us have been drastically reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He’s whatever but I’m glad they didn’t stupidly pay Howard or some other veteran running back. Draft a guy and say run through the hole. RB has the lowest learning curve of any position. Why they invest on a vet blows my mind. Mike Tolbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Taiwan Jones gonna get a longer thread than Diggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Retaking his rightful spot as this year’s Sinorice Perry. Wouldn’t be McD without having one. Maybe this time with the expanded active rosters under new CBA, we won’t have to prioritize STs at the expense of the offense. Nah....Who am I kidding? This is still McD we’re talking about. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
below Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 3:46 PM, Rc2catch said: Lots of guys can play special teams. It’s a travesty to have gore and singletary as the only two active running backs and Perry not able to take a carry and Yeldon just twiddling his thumbs inactive. Special teams is fine, special teams only players who can’t play offense or defense is a waste of a spot Oh darn I'm sure Yeldon woulda been a real difference maker....more than the guy making tackles preventing long returns on kicks and punts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Probably better than Senorise Perry. Upgrade everywhere you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: Taiwan Jones gonna get a longer thread than Diggs I love watching people freak out over not landing perennial Pro Bowlers to be our third strings and special teamers. Some people aren't happy unless they're miserable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 He probably won't make the roster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Nelius said: Probably better than Senorise Perry. Upgrade everywhere you can. Perry is supposedly a good STer in his own right. Not going to pretend I'm an expert on special teams play but that's his reputation.. anyhow; it's Perry's replacement but also they have different roles on the ST units. IIRC Jones lined up as the return man in his last stint here, at the very least on kick returns, can't remember if he fielded punts too. Perry definitely didn't do that. I *think* Perry was the up-back on the punt team but I'm not even entirely sure of that either. Could be a very big shuffle of the ST roles in 2020 which is needed considering their performance. I also think Jones provides a little more juice if pressed into play on offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) ...isn't he the kid that suffered that nasty head gash but had been showing some promise?...... Edited March 20, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) We don't need no Gurley or Gordon or other good RB; we get ANOTHER special teamer. Super Bowl ! We have almost as many JAGS than the team in Jacksonville Edited March 20, 2020 by MOVALLEYRANDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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