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39 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

I can give you lesser players making more than the $12million you are talking about. I can also give you 32 NFL GM’s that would love to have him for $14million if he’d take it. You are quoting one stat as indicative of the players value

Translation: Some players get overpaid. Duh.

 

'One stat indicative of the players value'

Okay then give me another stat, that's right you can't but you can say 'he was a disruptive force(on the 26th ranked D)

Lol.

 

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26 minutes ago, MrSarcasm said:

Translation: Some players get overpaid. Duh.

 

'One stat indicative of the players value'

Okay then give me another stat, that's right you can't but you can say 'he was a disruptive force(on the 26th ranked D)

Lol.

 

13 games played, 13 qb hits, 31 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 defensive tds, 1 int. He’s not mediocre has been my point and he isn’t

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15 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

13 games played, 13 qb hits, 31 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 2 defensive tds, 1 int. He’s not mediocre has been my point and he isn’t

Those are mediocre to slightly above stats. Nowhere close to elite.

 

16 games played, 18 qb hits, 31 tackles, 1 forced fumble and 6.5.  Shaq Lawson.

Is/was Shaq Lawson a force to be reckoned with?They both have very similar stats and Shaq was a rotational player.

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2 minutes ago, MrSarcasm said:

Those are mediocre to slightly above stats. Nowhere close to elite.

 

16 games played, 18 qb hits, 31 tackles, 1 forced fumble and 6.5.  Shaq Lawson.

Is/was Shaq Lawson a force to be reckoned with?They both have very similar stats and Shaq was a rotational player.

And so was Clowney for much of the year...and the stats were similar in 3 less games...and he had 2 tds...and Seattle was “load managing “ him until the playoffs where he showed out. I’m going to agree to disagree with you and end this.

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2 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

The stat optics are bad, but the game optics are telling a different story. You can choose to believe what you will, but his QB pressure stat is high-end and you would love him if he were on the Bills roster opening day 

 

This is pretty much the line the old FO was feeding us for why Sammy wasn't actually worse than Odell and others picked in the class, because he was a decoy and got other people open. In that case we should give the much maligned Star Lotulelei a bonus for every sack across the Dline, because he "helped" others get theirs.  

 

If your point is he isn't mediocre, you're arguing with people who aren't calling him mediocre. There is however, a vast distance between "not mediocre" and worth even 14M. 

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2 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

I can give you lesser players making more than the $12million you are talking about. I can also give you 32 NFL GM’s that would love to have him for $14million if he’d take it. You are quoting one stat as indicative of the players value

 

How many QB sacks does someone need to get to be worth $20MIL a year?

 

I think you got to have an incentive based contract with him.  Set a base salary of whatever, 12-15MIL/yr.  then give him incentives that he can get up to 20-22mil a year.

 

IF he plays all world, he gets all world money.  Anything less, than we got a good DE that helps out the team for a 'reasonable' number.

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32 minutes ago, 947 said:

Jets may have all of the top-3 WRs in available to them in the draft. Plus Crowder is a solid Slot-WR. 


Jets need a LT before they need a wideout. I’d be happy if they took a WR over a tackle. 

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You know your desperate for anything at WR when your fanbase gets excited about Perriman coming in. Guy mustered 36 catches in a pass happy offense with Godwin & Evans. This is a move Whaley, Nix or Marv would’ve made and try to sell us on how he’s reaching his potential at the right time. 

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43 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

You know your desperate for anything at WR when your fanbase gets excited about Perriman coming in. Guy mustered 36 catches in a pass happy offense with Godwin & Evans. This is a move Whaley, Nix or Marv would’ve made and try to sell us on how he’s reaching his potential at the right time. 

 

ScottLaw loves it.  J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!

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6 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

the window is NOW...

 

something tells me Beane and Clowney are having a back and forth regarding a one year prove it deal where both sides win

Yup. Still have a feeling we have 1 big trade/signing left 

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38 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said:

Yup. Still have a feeling we have 1 big trade/signing left 

Joe Marino eluded to hearing things about the Bills being linked to a pass rusher on his podcast that came out Sunday. He sounded excited about it though so must not be Clowney. I had to rewind it to see if he was referring to a guy in the draft or in FA and it seemed like he meant FA 

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4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Joe Marino eluded to hearing things about the Bills being linked to a pass rusher on his podcast that came out Sunday. He sounded excited about it though so must not be Clowney. I had to rewind it to see if he was referring to a guy in the draft or in FA and it seemed like he meant FA 

 

Trading for Joey Bosa? ?

 

Seriously though, I have no idea who it could be.

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50 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

the window is NOW...

 

something tells me Beane and Clowney are having a back and forth regarding a one year prove it deal where both sides win

Docs are currently examining spleen x-rays to determine whether Beane makes an offer.

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Everson Griffin maybe?

 

I don't know, they already have 3 edge guys 30 (Murphy, Hughes, Addison) and over.

 

You would think it would have to be for someone younger and it really makes you wonder if Clowney is the guy for a one year prove it deal.

 

You know more about this stuff than I do, so you may be right about Griffin.

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Just now, njbuff said:

 

I don't know, they already have 3 edge guys 30 (Murphy, Hughes, Addison) and over.

 

You would think it would have to be for someone younger and it really makes you wonder if Clowney is the guy for a one year prove it deal.

 

You know more about this stuff than I do, so you may be right about Griffin.

Just a guess based on who is left. 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

I don't know, they already have 3 edge guys 30 (Murphy, Hughes, Addison) and over.

 

You would think it would have to be for someone younger and it really makes you wonder if Clowney is the guy for a one year prove it deal.

 

You know more about this stuff than I do, so you may be right about Griffin.

Addison has 3 years of term, Hughes has 2 and Murphy has one. You would think they wouldn't want to have Clowney and Hughes up in the same year so a 1 year or a 3 year make more sense that way and a 4 year might be perfect so you had one potentially come off the books each year and Clowney would be the youngest of them all

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9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I would be surprised if we took a flyer on Griffin unless he comes very cheap......we already brought in a aged edge

Yeah, I think its Clowney or no one at this point, though if they sign Griffin we can start calling them The Get Off My Lawn Gang.

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12 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Yeah, I think its Clowney or no one at this point, though if they sign Griffin we can start calling them The Get Off My Lawn Gang.

I would think a veteran RB is also in play.  One at a good price.  Hyde, Freeman, maybe L Miller.  Short term deal to be RB2 while the draft pick they get develops.

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