Mr. WEO Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, njbuff said: It works both ways. There are millions of people who work in NYC that live in NJ. You should have mentioned that fact. I did. Without those high earners and the city they work in, NJ “wouldn’t work”, as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: I did. Without those high earners and the city they work in, NJ “wouldn’t work”, as you say. Those high earners make the commute in and out of the city so much fun. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: It may not be Hawaii but NO charm? From Theatre district to Allentown to Olmstead Parks to West village historic district There is tons of charm in Buffalo The Primma Donna's don't care about that they want the party scene they want to be able to go out in their Lambo's & Bentley's & impress all the other rich folks & parade around with their bling hanging every where so they can show every body else how rich they are paid for playing a game !! They for sure don't care about history like playing at Lambeau, Buffalo, Cleveland, especially in Dec. & Jan. but their minds change a bit when they here what the guys on the team say was one of those questions posed to a Bills player ? I'm thinking not ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 minute ago, T master said: The Primma Donna's don't care about that they want the party scene they want to be able to go out in their Lambo's & Bentley's & impress all the other rich folks & parade around with their bling hanging every where so they can show every body else how rich they are paid for playing a game !! They for sure don't care about history like playing at Lambeau, Buffalo, Cleveland, especially in Dec. & Jan. but their minds change a bit when they here what the guys on the team say was one of those questions posed to a Bills player ? I'm thinking not ... ...except they don’t do any of that in season. They fly in Saturday afternoon. They have meetings, a meal in the hotel and go to sleep. They get up, have breakfast and take a bus to the stadium. They play a game and take a bus to the airport. That’s the same routine whether you are in Miami or Buffalo. The stadium, hotel, weather and visiting locker room are what they do not like. It has nothing to do with architecture, nightlife, restaurants, etc... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, T master said: I'm thinking not ... Yoda-speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 20 hours ago, Alaska Darin said: Good. I don't want them to like coming to Buffalo to play against us. The Pegulas have plenty of money and getting free agents to come here hasn't really ever been much of a problem. exactly i want guys to hate coming here to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: That’s not really the case anymore. Slowly but surely it’s making a comeback. I think the Bills moving the stadium to the city and on the waterfront could really speed that up and revitalize the entire city. I think the only way to revitalize Buffalo is via jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Just now, Sunshower said: I think the only way to revitalize Buffalo is via jobs. I think those are already happening. i think you also have to retain your population. Can’t have kids going to college and never coming back. Or keep college kids who grad from UB and Buff State in Buffalo. I am not saying a stadium will solve everything but a happening downtown can attract more corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: ...except they don’t do any of that in season. They fly in Saturday afternoon. They have meetings, a meal in the hotel and go to sleep. They get up, have breakfast and take a bus to the stadium. They play a game and take a bus to the airport. That’s the same routine whether you are in Miami or Buffalo. The stadium, hotel, weather and visiting locker room are what they do not like. It has nothing to do with architecture, nightlife, restaurants, etc... Yeah, most guys like Buffalo once they play here. They live in a bubble that makes it tough to be educated on these matters. Nightlife might not be glitzy, but it works for most of our players. Opposing players don’t get to experience much of anything. Edited January 25, 2020 by SirAndrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 22 hours ago, Lurker said: Per The Athletic: https://theathletic.com/1554733/2020/01/24/pro-bowl-confidential-players-on-marijuana-testing-coaches-theyd-like-to-play-for-worst-city-to-travel-to-more/ Worst NFL city to travel to: That naturally sets up the opposite. And if they had hesitation even anonymously identifying individual players as overrated, there was no such kindness here. One player offered up four cities before being politely asked to choose the worst one. BUFFALO, yes, was the runaway winner, named by 10(!) players. “No charm, and all the negatives of Green Bay,” one player said. “Anywhere on the East Coast” was another response, declining to pick a single city. Said another who rarely leaves the hotel on the road: “I judge a city by the locker room, and Oakland has the worst.” Also receiving votes: Cincinnati (4) Green Bay (4) Oakland (4) Cleveland (3) They should get them to stay in Niagara Falls Ontario, plenty of great food places/ stripclubs and loads of 5star hotels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: I currently split my time between Sarasota, San Diego and Vienna Au. Spend a few weeks a year on Canandaigua, usually during training camp. 66 years young. You? Life long WNY-er (63 years). Glad you're happy elsewhere... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: I currently split my time between Sarasota, San Diego and Vienna Au. Spend a few weeks a year on Canandaigua, usually during training camp. All those far flung places, and you won’t ante up to read a Buffalo News article. Interesting. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Im actually surprised it wasnt more than 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Really, who cares what those players say? They don't know very much about any of the cities they go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 But why are we mad about OPINIONS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 The poll probably had to be asked of players that lost games but n Buffalo. Where does Baltimore fit in? Green Bay and Minnesota in December is bad freezing cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 6:55 PM, Buffalo716 said: It may not be Hawaii but NO charm? From Theatre district to Allentown to Olmstead Parks to West village historic district There is tons of charm in Buffalo The Falls and no charm. Who is this tool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said: The Falls and no charm. Who is this tool? Just to be a tool Niagara Falls is not Buffalo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 We need new hedges on California Dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Utah John said: Really, who cares what those players say? They don't know very much about any of the cities they go to. As important: why is it an insult to be the worst nfl day trip for these guys? Is it meaningful in any way that the rams are not looking forward to flying into buffalo and praying it’s not late in the season? Does that insult the residents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: I currently split my time between Sarasota, San Diego and Vienna Au. Spend a few weeks a year on Canandaigua, usually during training camp. 66 years young. You? I’m sorry but your impressions of Buffalo aren’t accurate. As someone who’s also very well travelled, I’m not going to claim Buffalo is growing more than other places but it’s not “still on the decline.” Life and progress in the actual city (read: not the suburbs) is better than it’s been in decades. ...which is to say a lot considering how incompetent city government is across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, NoSaint said: As important: why is it an insult to be the worst nfl day trip for these guys? Is it meaningful in any way that the rams are not looking forward to flying into buffalo and praying it’s not late in the season? Does that insult the residents? Everything insults the residents... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 good. they don't like being an away player, they can join the Billsmafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 10 hours ago, njbuff said: I’m all over the NYC metro area Sparky. My point is, NYC is looked at like this country couldn’t operate without it and that is just false. Manhattan has the limelight, but very little is talked about how truly awful places like Brooklyn and parts of Queens are. There are a lot of people I run into that can’t stand Brooklyn, so there is that. By the way, there are parts of NJ I can do without, Newark, for example. Newark has some decent spots mostly in the Iron bound that are gentrified (I enjoy seeing a hockey game there). Everywhere has ***** areas and places that aren't safe so I dont know many cities or states that lack areas you could "do without". I lived in Northern NJ up until late 2018 and while I couldn't stand the harsh winters I always enjoyed the area. But yes the pompous nature of a lot of people in NYC can be infuriating. As though you couldn't really possibly enjoy living in a different area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) I think if that poll was entitled hardest city to play in it'd be honor for fans to say players think Buffalo is #1. But I have to think that plays a part in this survey? I mean no offense as I have love for Detroit as well but how much more sophisticated/nicer is it than Buffalo? The city didn't get one vote. I think it's because the Lions play indoors and their fans aren't as rowdy as Bills fans. Edited January 26, 2020 by Another Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 It starts when one arrives at the airport. Most airports have charming and colorful murals - not Buffalo - everywhere you look, it's "cancer, cancer, cancer" - talk about depressing. I'm not against these institutions promoting themselves, but can we make the airport a bit happier of a place by leaving that out of the mix? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I’m surprised Indy isn’t near the top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 6:49 PM, Lurker said: Per The Athletic: https://theathletic.com/1554733/2020/01/24/pro-bowl-confidential-players-on-marijuana-testing-coaches-theyd-like-to-play-for-worst-city-to-travel-to-more/ Worst NFL city to travel to: That naturally sets up the opposite. And if they had hesitation even anonymously identifying individual players as overrated, there was no such kindness here. One player offered up four cities before being politely asked to choose the worst one. BUFFALO, yes, was the runaway winner, named by 10(!) players. “No charm, and all the negatives of Green Bay,” one player said. “Anywhere on the East Coast” was another response, declining to pick a single city. Said another who rarely leaves the hotel on the road: “I judge a city by the locker room, and Oakland has the worst.” Also receiving votes: Cincinnati (4) Green Bay (4) Oakland (4) Cleveland (3) Aaaaaand why should we care? Not directed at you personally of course my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, ChasBB said: It starts when one arrives at the airport. Most airports have charming and colorful murals - not Buffalo - everywhere you look, it's "cancer, cancer, cancer" - talk about depressing. I'm not against these institutions promoting themselves, but can we make the airport a bit happier of a place by leaving that out of the mix? They don’t even fly in and out of the airport as we know it. They get off a plane at prior aviation and on a bus. (With that being said there is a lot of cancer ads in that airport). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 51 minutes ago, ChasBB said: It starts when one arrives at the airport. Most airports have charming and colorful murals - not Buffalo - everywhere you look, it's "cancer, cancer, cancer" - talk about depressing. I'm not against these institutions promoting themselves, but can we make the airport a bit happier of a place by leaving that out of the mix? Surrounded by industrial blight that left contamination in the ground. Cancer causing material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 hours ago, H2o said: Aaaaaand why should we care? Just stiring TSW's pot. Now that its up to five pages, I might need a bigger kettle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 6:49 PM, Lurker said: Per The Athletic: https://theathletic.com/1554733/2020/01/24/pro-bowl-confidential-players-on-marijuana-testing-coaches-theyd-like-to-play-for-worst-city-to-travel-to-more/ Worst NFL city to travel to: That naturally sets up the opposite. And if they had hesitation even anonymously identifying individual players as overrated, there was no such kindness here. One player offered up four cities before being politely asked to choose the worst one. BUFFALO, yes, was the runaway winner, named by 10(!) players. “No charm, and all the negatives of Green Bay,” one player said. “Anywhere on the East Coast” was another response, declining to pick a single city. Said another who rarely leaves the hotel on the road: “I judge a city by the locker room, and Oakland has the worst.” Also receiving votes: Cincinnati (4) Green Bay (4) Oakland (4) Cleveland (3) we hide the good stuff for ourselves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Buffalo is a wonderful city. I spent 12 very happy years of my life there. If Buf. was situated in Europe, it would be considered world class. Criticism of the city is based purely on ignorance. Don't get me wrong there are some slums and ghettos and violence but that is in every city The architecture and vibe are full of charm and it's a beautiful place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: Buffalo is a wonderful city. I spent 12 very happy years of my life there as a student, and an employee. If Buf. was situated in Europe, it would be considered world class. Criticism of the city is based purely on ignorance. I have got to imagine that the average NFL player is a 20-something year old kid that mostly plays video games, eats chicken tenders and burgers, and hits the bars/clubs. Nothing wrong with that, but the criteria are not exactly aligned with what really makes a good/bad city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 7:07 PM, Kirby Jackson said: This isn’t even a little surprising. The stadium is near the bottom of the league. The visiting locker room isn’t nice. The weather is some of the worst in the league. The hotels are better than they were but not elite. Again, we are talking about OPPOSING players’ perception of their 24 hours in Buffalo. Did it even snow for any of our home games this year? Just sayin.’ I’d bet (going out on a limb here) the weather elsewhere was worse in select northern markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: They don’t even fly in and out of the airport as we know it. They get off a plane at prior aviation and on a bus. (With that being said there is a lot of cancer ads in that airport). This may be part of the problem! Send them thru the regular terminal (it’s not like it’s crowded) and make them walk past the Anchor Bar on the way to the bus. Last trip I had breakfast wings and drinks. The smell caught me, and I was spellbound! I don’t know where they stay or the route they take to OP, but it can have a big impression on how you view WNY. If they go along the lake and look at all the closed steel mills, it’s NOT a good look. A former tennis buddy in Sarasota asked the first time we met where I was originally from. I asked him the same question. He responded “the armpit of the United States”. I said “oh, so you’re from Gary, IN?” He said “so you’ve been there!”. No, I just drove through once. It was my impression, and it was horrible. . Edited January 27, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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