Mike in Horseheads Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 The Associated Press @AP · 20m EXCLUSIVE: The New Orleans @Saints are going to court to keep secret hundreds of emails that allegedly show team executives doing public relations damage control for the area's Roman Catholic archdiocese amid its sexual abuse crisis. http://apne.ws/RgJ1kik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Saints and sinners. Go figure... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 This feels like it could be a big story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Geez. Goodell seems like a d-bag, but gotta feel for him sometimes. Kraft and Asian massage parlors, Patriots and incessant cheating, always something with Jerrah, now the Saints providing advice from their NFL email accounts to help pedophiles...Goodell must wake up every morning thinking what SH!??t is gonna drop today. Where have you gone Art Rooney? Edited January 24, 2020 by BuffaloRebound 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Goodell Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 fml 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Didn’t Brees align with some Pro Life org too this year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Whoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Was the Church asking the Saints how to cover up a story? If so, I don’t think the Saints would be the team I would seek advice from. They should of reached out to the Pats for that!! Edited January 24, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Whoa Knowing what I know about that organization, there will be no scapegoat. They aren’t just going to throw Bensel or somebody under the bus. That senior leadership team was literally the pallbearers at Tom Benson’s funeral. It is not like any organization that I have ever seen. The Bills have people like Dave Wheat in power but he isn’t treated as if his name was Pegula. That’s how that Saints front office operates. The leadership team functionally all have immunity. That’s part of what makes this interesting to me. I’ll be really surprised if they throw someone under the bus to try to make this story go away. Edited January 24, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Finally got one in b4 ya LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Saints make a public statement: 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Yikes. As a proud Catholic myself, we need to separate this stuff. IMO, religion should be a private matter. Be proud of what you are but it should be an inward thing. Plus the most religious people I know are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Was the Church asking the Saints how to cover up a story? If so I don’t think the Saints would be the team I would seek addictive from. They should of reached out to the Pats for that!! lol... that’s a very good point. And, why would the Saints even want to get remotely involved in this? (besides their team name... womp wompppp) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: The Associated Press @AP · 20m EXCLUSIVE: The New Orleans @Saints are going to court to keep secret hundreds of emails that allegedly show team executives doing public relations damage control for the area's Roman Catholic archdiocese amid its sexual abuse crisis. http://apne.ws/RgJ1kik What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Seriously, at what point does Goodell show up to one of these owners meetings and say “I don’t care if you pay me $100m per year I’m done taking the heat for you inbred billionaire morons.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Didn’t Brees align with some Pro Life org too this year? I mean, the man has a right to his own personal values and political opinions, as long as it's not so-called "Operation Rescue" or other anti-abortion terrorist groups My mother's dog was once poisoned, we believe by Buffalo anti-abortionist extremists (sorry can't call them pro-life when they murder people and kill living things) Anyway Brees aligning with a group that supports his values vs. advising the Catholic church how to cover up a sex abuse scandal, not even same neighborhood Just now, BuffaloRebound said: Seriously, at what point does Goodell show up to one of these owners meetings and say “I don’t care if you pay me $100m per year I’m done taking the heat for you inbred billionaire morons.” Never. His bread too buttered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 The Priests who abuse children aren’t men of god. They are child abusers, pedophiles, rapists, criminals. Those who help cover it up are complicit in the crime. That is all. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 lets hope there is a bit more context to the story 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 “Your honor, please allow us to cover up the emails that show us helping to cover up the child abuse committed by that ring of pedophiles....” Yeah, good luck with that argument. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Oh my good gracious no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Probably checking with the Saints to see how Williams ran the ‘bounty’ program. “So...how did your organization’s ‘bounty’ program work? If we send some people to an accuser’s home, we pay those people to ‘rough up’ the alleged victim?” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I mean, the man has a right to his own personal values and political opinions, as long as it's not so-called "Operation Rescue" or other anti-abortion terrorist groups My mother's dog was once poisoned, we believe by Buffalo anti-abortionist extremists (sorry can't call them pro-life when they murder people and kill living things) Anyway Brees aligning with a group that supports his values vs. advising the Catholic church how to cover up a sex abuse scandal, not even same neighborhood Never. His bread too buttered. Wasn’t equating the situations, just pointing out that it’s a pattern with this team to be caught up in scandals due to their association with religious outfits. Sorry about your mom’s dog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Not very 'Saintly' of them. Time for a name change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: Seriously, at what point does Goodell show up to one of these owners meetings and say “I don’t care if you pay me $100m per year I’m done taking the heat for you inbred billionaire morons.” Compensation between $40&$50M a year now. Plus incredible perks. Where do I sign up for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Didn’t Brees align with some Pro Life org too this year? Random statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Compensation between $40&$50M a year now. Plus incredible perks. Where do I sign up for that? Agreed. When something goes well, be in front of the cameras sharing credit for the event (deserved or not). When something goes wrong, send out a lackey to face the media. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Why would they even stick their hand into that bag of snakes? I mean WTF? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Pure BS the Saints are not cooperating in an horrible issue like this. Clearly they are hiding something. Off topic but just let priests marry. This would go a long way minimizing this crap in the future. And there is nothing in religious doctrines requiring no marriage. It’s just some dumb policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 This is going to get way bigger in the coming days. I hear the emails are just the tip of the iceberg and the Saints are involved in way more than just covering up a local arch diocese. When the news breaks remember you heard it here first: Sean Payton murdered Epstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Pure BS the Saints are not cooperating in an horrible issue like this. Clearly they are hiding something. Off topic but just let priests marry. This would go a long way minimizing this crap in the future. And there is nothing in religious doctrines requiring no marriage. It’s just some dumb policy. Off topic but I’m catholic, and our priest is married. Apparently he was Episcopalian and became catholic. And they let him become a priest. I don’t know the whole story because i just joined this parish within the last year. Just found it surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Jumpsuit Jim said: The Priests who abuse children aren’t men of god. They are child abusers, pedophiles, rapists, criminals. Those who help cover it up are complicit in the crime. That is all. If you look at every profession treating the elderly, children, disabled, th percentage of priests as pedophiles is accurate to every other group. I am not in anyway giving a pass to these monsters, but the real crime is the church not either 1, sending him to prison for the person’s acts, or at the very least sending to a monastery somewhere like Portugal to have to pray 16 hours a day for life, and if he does not comply they out him. Being a devout Catholic, it makes me sick the church continued to hide these bastadges, and not punish them for life as well as the payouts. I went to Catholic School my entire young life, and never once did I ever feel a priest wanted anything but to help me. I understand the vitriol as it is horrible what these individuals did, but the church hiding it embarrasses me as a devout catholic. I can only add if anyone, including a priest hurt one of my three children in this manner, God help them, as I will show no mercy. I’m not one to talk tough, but this behavior is repulsive. My prayers goes out to those poor families. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Yikes. As a proud Catholic myself, we need to separate this stuff. IMO, religion should be a private matter. Be proud of what you are but it should be an inward thing. Plus the most religious people I know are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. A theist us atheists can get behind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Wasn’t equating the situations, just pointing out that it’s a pattern with this team to be caught up in scandals due to their association with religious outfits. Sorry about your mom’s dog. What are you talking about? What does Brees being pro life have to do with a religious scandal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: If you look at every profession treating the elderly, children, disabled, th percentage of priests as pedophiles is accurate to every other group. I am not in anyway giving a pass to these monsters, but the real crime is the church not either 1, sending him to prison for the person’s acts, or at the very least sending to a monastery somewhere like Portugal to have to pray 16 hours a day for life, and if he does not comply they out him. Being a devout Catholic, it makes me sick the church continued to hide these bastadges, and not punish them for life as well as the payouts. I went to Catholic School my entire young life, and never once did I ever feel a priest wanted anything but to help me. I understand the vitriol as it is horrible what these individuals did, but the church hiding it embarrasses me as a devout catholic. I can only add if anyone, including a priest hurt one of my three children in this manner, God help them, as I will show no mercy. I’m not one to talk tough, but this behavior is repulsive. My prayers goes out to those poor families. My vitriol isn’t toward Catholic Priests. It is towards the Priests who abused. My anger isn’t toward the Catholic Church. It is directed towards the Bishops and Cardinals who felt it was more important to protect the Church than it was to protect the children. Many professions (Dr, Teacher, Nurse, Social Work) are required to report suspected abuse. SUSPECTED. That there are people who claim to be men of god living to a lesser standard is abhorrent to me. Hiding the abuse and looking to avoid negative perception... I do not hate the Catholic Church. Just that small percentage within the Church who seek to keep abuse in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Didn’t Brees align with some Pro Life org too this year? What's wrong with not wanting to see babies murdered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jumpsuit Jim said: My vitriol isn’t toward Catholic Priests. It is towards the Priests who abused. My anger isn’t toward the Catholic Church. It is directed towards the Bishops and Cardinals who felt it was more important to protect the Church than it was to protect the children. Many professions (Dr, Teacher, Nurse, Social Work) are required to report suspected abuse. SUSPECTED. That there are people who claim to be men of god living to a lesser standard is abhorrent to me. Hiding the abuse and looking to avoid negative perception... I do not hate the Catholic Church. Just that small percentage within the Church who seek to keep abuse in the dark. To me (a non-Catholic) it just seems like it would make more sense to distance yourself from abusers and cut them off. What do they have to gain by standing by and covering up abusive priests? Just strip them of their priesthood, excommunicate them, make a statement that the church will never stand by corrupt, child abusing priests, and place another priest in his place. None of the blame should fall with the church as a whole UNLESS they are supporting their abusive priests and covering up their actions, which they stupidly have done in the past and apparently continue to do. 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: What's wrong with not wanting to see babies murdered? The better question is "What does that have to do with the Saints covering up Catholic abuse scandals?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I am having trouble imagining what help a football team could possibly be, in dealing with these crimes. Football teams are businesses which are really good at public relations, but not when it comes to covering up crimes. If a priest or someone else in the Church committed a sexual offense, that's a crime, not a public relations challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I thought this thread was a play on words before I opened it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 5 hours ago, MJS said: What are you talking about? What does Brees being pro life have to do with a religious scandal? It wasn’t Brees being pro-life, it was his association with a radical “Christian” group that I was thinking of. 5 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: What's wrong with not wanting to see babies murdered? I was wrong, it wasn’t a crazy pro-life org, it was a crazy anti-gay org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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