MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chaos said: You will need Andy Reid for that. I also need weapons. Go get them Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 No one likes Jonathan Taylor? He’s projected to be a late 1st to late 2nd. Seems about the same projection that PSU Miles Sanders had last year, who some Bills fans on TBD wanted. Would love to get a top WR is the 1st and then Jonathan Taylor in the 2nd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 McCaffrey will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 We definitely need another RB. But I would prefer a dual threat guy, instead of a one-dimensional short yardage bruiser. Whenever Frank Gore was on the field, it told the defense that we were probably going to run between the tackles. He wasn't really a threat to get around the edge. And he wasn't really a threat in the passing game. Combine that with Josh Allen's struggles with downfield passes, and teams had no problem loading the box against us. I'm a big believer in going BPA in the draft. But from what I've seen, the Bills should have a very good WR prospect fall into their lap in the 1st Round. And a pretty good RB prospect could likely slip to us in the 2nd Round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, TigerJ said: Yes Derrick Henry is scheduled to be a free agent. We'll have to wait and see if he makes it that far. Then there is the issue of his asking price. He's a bit unique as far as NFL running backs are concerned. There is nobody else who is both that big and that fast. That means he can be used as an outside runner where his size is more of a miss match. When defenses stack the box, if he can break through, few defenders can run him down. The closest runner to him in the draft is Najee Harris. He's not as heavy as Henry, but he's about the same speed. There are a couple other big backs in the draft, but they don't have as much speed to get outside. Id' be happy if Buffalo drafted Harris, but I'd also like to see them pick up a speed guy. Thanks to this weekend's games, the running game has once again become popular. And it's probably going to make Derrick Henry a very rich man. But don't be fooled. It's still not a wise strategy to pay big bucks to a Free Agent running back. More than any other position, RBs tend to wear down early in their careers. Most guys peak before they hit 25. Very few are still effective by the time they reach 30 years old. Guys with heavy workloads also tend to drop-off the next season. The smartest GMs tend to regularly target RBs in the 2nd-3rd Round (which is where Henry was originally drafted), let their guys walk after that rookie contract expires, and then rinse-repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I would love Ekeler if we go RB in free agency 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Henry is available... Do you think he is getting paid megabucks this offseason? Will Beane be the high bidder? If the Titans let Henry walk, they should relinquish the Franchise... to anyone... next bum on the street. That guy is a rare physical freak similar to Erick Dickerson and Adrian Peterson. Shame he's been hidden on such a mediocre team. Yes, if we can get a guy like that, we should. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, mjt328 said: We definitely need another RB. But I would prefer a dual threat guy, instead of a one-dimensional short yardage bruiser. Whenever Frank Gore was on the field, it told the defense that we were probably going to run between the tackles. He wasn't really a threat to get around the edge. And he wasn't really a threat in the passing game. Combine that with Josh Allen's struggles with downfield passes, and teams had no problem loading the box against us. I'm a big believer in going BPA in the draft. But from what I've seen, the Bills should have a very good WR prospect fall into their lap in the 1st Round. And a pretty good RB prospect could likely slip to us in the 2nd Round. agree 100%. The key is to get a good all-around guy. I would try to target someone around 3th-5th rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: If the Titans let Henry walk, they should relinquish the Franchise... to anyone... next bum on the street. That guy is a rare physical freak similar to Erick Dickerson and Adrian Peterson. Shame he's been hidden on such a mediocre team. Yes, if we can get a guy like that, we should. Obviously. I think for once we may agree.. Are there other guys like him? They don’t grow on trees ( or in the draft..)..so not sure where we are “finding” one next year as the OP is hoping.. That “mediocre” team is getting carried to the Superbowl by this guy.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Big is nice but effective is better. Clyde Edwards Helaire is who i would target. He's Not big but definitely a power runner with quicks and hands to boot. Edited January 13, 2020 by Buffalo Barbarian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 12 hours ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: If I’m not mistaken, I think Najee is going back for his senior year. he hasn't decided yet, he has made comments about returning but he hasn't stated he is officially returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 The Bills don’t need a power back, just an effective RB2. Frank Gore running in cement really hurt the O when Singletary wasn’t on the field. The Bills can do just about anything they want to cure the RB2 woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I don't want to limit Singletary's carries. Draft another RB in the 4th or 5th with power to back him up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 12:27 PM, pgrace245 said: I miss the days of old when Lynch was in a Bills uniform. Seeing Derrick Henry tear up the Baltimore defense last night was another reminder that we need a power RB in Buffalo. Singletary has speed and jukes but lacks the down hill power needed to complete the run game. Having a dominant run game opens up the offense for big pass plays and play action. Henry controlled the game last night even with Baltimore knowing the runs were coming. I hope we find a way to add that dynamic to our offense last year and bring back a bully o-line. I can appreciate the speed and agile style of Singletary but we need some beast mode in buffalo. So which Henry/Lynch/Blount type RB is available draft/FA? Yes we do. I think and hope it will happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I think they can find a power RB in round 3-5 or in the lower to mid-level free agency range. This is a need for this team to replace Gore (who outside of a handful of games early wasn't the most effective back) with a similar style of player. But I don't think the team needs to go crazy and spend a pick in round 1 or 2 or go after Henry or another big level player via trade or free agency. I think they can fill the need effectively without major resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 7:42 PM, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: No offense to FredEx, but we need players who bring more to the table than warm fuzzy feelings for the team .... I don’t recall Freddie winning the bills anything RBs don't win Superbowls, they are probably the 3rd most important part of an offense. Freddie was the best thing this team had for a long time. He was my favorite Bill hands-down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 3:00 AM, njbuff said: The Bills don’t need a power back, just an effective RB2. Frank Gore running in cement really hurt the O when Singletary wasn’t on the field. The Bills can do just about anything they want to cure the RB2 woes. Singletary has not shown (some would some simply not given the opportunity) that he can carry a work load of 20+ carries regularly. If you can't do that, you are not an RB1 3 minutes ago, BigBillsFan said: RBs don't win Superbowls, they are probably the 3rd most important part of an offense. Freddie was the best thing this team had for a long time. He was my favorite Bill hands-down Generally you are right. Jerome the Bus Bettis, and John Riggins (and the hogs) were a couple of exceptions proving the rule. Henry is playing at a unusual high level currently. No one else is going to play at the level, and even Henry is not likely to sustain it. Its a rare thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, thunderingsquid said: I would love Ekeler if we go RB in free agency I'd love Ekeler on the Bills. He is a gamer and an undrafted guy that has earned everything. I think that fits our team. I would also draft a RB mid to late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 11:34 AM, Aussie Joe said: Henry is available... Do you think he is getting paid megabucks this offseason? Will Beane be the high bidder? I would rather spend the money on a game breaking TE like Hooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 McBeane are doing things the right way, brown and Beasley where good fits for the offense with character. When we bring in the rookie wideouts this year they'll get the proper support. And be better for it. Oline wasn't ALL that bad, add a tackle in free agency and guard in the draft. Finding an olb in first or second round is a priority, as well as a corner in 4 th rd. Running back by committee is a proven way, as long as you have diversity. The bills are fine and continue to move in the right direction. A contender for years. GO bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 12:58 PM, NewEra said: But he was always HUGE and FAST. Much bigger and faster than Harris Henry ran a 4.54 at the combine, while a great time for a big guy, it is not electrifying speed. I seen the play I think it was this past weekend and gotta admit I was surprised he did look fast, but who was chasing him? I wonder what Harris might be able to run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 AJ Dillon in round 5. 6 feet 250 and runs dudes over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 9:39 AM, Dkollidas said: His name is Najee Harris. maybe not as big but he can grind. a later round option would be AJ Dillon from Boston College. Exactly, Najee Harris has to be the target. He would be a perfect compliment to Singletary. We'd have 2 great rbs for the next 4+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Please, don't draft a RB in the first two rounds... I hate some fans, so much. I really, really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly, Najee Harris has to be the target. He would be a perfect compliment to Singletary. We'd have 2 great rbs for the next 4+ years. Except he’s staying in “school.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Paulus said: Please, don't draft a RB in the first two rounds... I hate some fans, so much. I really, really do. Is anyone really asking for that? we got ds at the perfect spot in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 7:48 AM, SCBills said: We can have a dominant line next year, but it probably means re-signing Spain, kicking Ford inside, Feliciano to utility backup and paying big $$$ to Conklin. Otherwise we have to hope Ford makes a jump (which he certainly could) and that Feliciano gives us more consistency. I’m all for it. Also would agree with those advocating for Najee Harris. He’s a speed power back who can catch. Perfect compliment with Singletary. Sign Conklin & Ngakoue Keep Spain and one of Murphy/Lawson Rounds 1-3, get 2 WR’s and Najee Harris Works for me Spain was our worst OL. Upgrade over him would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) On 1/12/2020 at 9:42 AM, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: No offense to FredEx, but we need players who bring more to the table than warm fuzzy feelings for the team .... I don’t recall Freddie winning the bills anything Because our teams sucked. The reason the OP is clamoring for this type of RB is because it's one of the small handful of missing pieces we have. If Fred Jackson in his prime were on this team paired with Singletary in the backfield, our offense would be automatically noticeably better than the team with Gore and Singletary. If you think all Fred brought to the team was warm fuzzy feelings, you're new to watching to Buffalo Bills. Edited January 19, 2020 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Spain was our worst OL. Upgrade over him would be great. His name is Cody Ford We are actually set at OG....I dont want to wast resources there. Cody, John F., Spencer Long, Ryan Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 12:27 PM, pgrace245 said: I miss the days of old when Lynch was in a Bills uniform. Seeing Derrick Henry tear up the Baltimore defense last night was another reminder that we need a power RB in Buffalo. Singletary has speed and jukes but lacks the down hill power needed to complete the run game. Having a dominant run game opens up the offense for big pass plays and play action. Henry controlled the game last night even with Baltimore knowing the runs were coming. I hope we find a way to add that dynamic to our offense last year and bring back a bully o-line. I can appreciate the speed and agile style of Singletary but we need some beast mode in buffalo. So which Henry/Lynch/Blount type RB is available draft/FA? We had a monster but his girl got prego and so did he apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 This is a bandwagon thread. At the beginning of the year everyone said it’s a passing league and backs are a dime a dozen. Now Henry mows down a couple teams and we need a big back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 'r Mortis Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Irv said: This is a bandwagon thread. At the beginning of the year everyone said it’s a passing league and backs are a dime a dozen. Now Henry mows down a couple teams and we need a big back. You got it. The Bills need to learn to use what they already have first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Give a a legit TE and WRs over a RB any day and twice in Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 His name is Eno Benjamin and I would love to see him on the Bills. Thunder and lightning when paired with Mr. Singletary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Irv said: This is a bandwagon thread. At the beginning of the year everyone said it’s a passing league and backs are a dime a dozen. Now Henry mows down a couple teams and we need a big back. Sort of, although some have argued against that point. The dime a dozen back thing has been stupid for years. And to be fair even if people are now just jumping ship it makes sense - it's inevitable that more teams are going to rely on a strong defense and power running game to counter the passing league idea instead of it just being a 32 team arm's race to video game stats. But anyway, I think the argument is far more influenced by seeing our RB2 struggle for 3.6 ypc this year (about 2.7 after week 9, gross). Another RB is a high priority for this team. Edited January 20, 2020 by Nelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 We need McDermott to understand offense is necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 What's is Brieda's story, style, and availability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) Where is some guy like Derrick Henry? There is only one. If all it took was to have a big running back, more teams would have been doing what the Titans did with Henry. I want them to get a power back to compliment Singletary, but it's more with versatility in mind. So they can play against a variety of defenses, and have the right players for different circumstances. You don't want Singletary taking hits just to run out the clock, for instance. Gore was supposed to be that guy, but got old real quick. I'm confident that the coaching staff will bring in a nice power RB. Edited January 20, 2020 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Raheem Mostert 29 rushes / 4 TD 220 yards was a UDFA in 2015 Jimmy Garoppolo 6/8 77 yards The difference a good OL and coaching can make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, ALF said: Raheem Mostert 29 rushes / 4 TD 220 yards was a UDFA in 2015 Jimmy Garoppolo 6/8 77 yards The difference a good OL and coaching can make Or bad coaching. How does GB allow that much on the ground? That was wansteadt-like magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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