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Browns hire Kevin Stefanski as HC; Andrew Berry as GM

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4 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I did a little checking on the guy. He’s definitely worked his way up the ranks. But to simplify it and justify what you just put,  Dalvin Cook finally played most of the season and broke out and they took the ball out of cousins hands more. Cooks numbers went up and cousins went down. That’s the success IMO. But as a leader and he’ll need to be one with that team I don’t know much about

 

 

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...so apparently Daboll is staying, which poses an interesting thread debate.....perhaps a technically astute TBDer could construct a poll thread (beyond me; I'm brain dead) as to whether the offense rests solely on Daboll or if McDermott has a significant influence......is Daboll handcuffed by McDermott's defensive/conservative leanings?.....or...is Daboll qualified to devise an offense with youngsters as a "plan builder" or does he need a seasoned vet group?.......questions are endless if we're going into year 3.....anybody want to take on the task?.....could be a real comprehensive debate.....

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50 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Kinda happy about this. I think Allen needs daboll next season 

Like I need the shingles.....

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1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...so apparently Daboll is staying, which poses an interesting thread debate.....perhaps a technically astute TBDer could construct a poll thread (beyond me; I'm brain dead) as to whether the offense rests solely on Daboll or if McDermott has a significant influence......is Daboll handcuffed by McDermott's defensive/conservative leanings?.....or...is Daboll qualified to devise an offense with youngsters as a "plan builder" or does he need a seasoned vet group?.......questions are endless if we're going into year 3.....anybody want to take on the task?.....could be a real comprehensive debate.....


Allen Progresses again next year Doboll will get a HC job. He was one of the final 2 in Cle. Saleh was three and McDaniels was favorite of the owner 

McDaniels was only the owner’s preference 

 

 

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Just now, MAJBobby said:


Allen Progresses again next year Doboll will get a HC job. He was one of the final 2 in Cle. Saleh was three and McDaniels was favorite of the owner 

 

...possibly...so answer my question as to who is the Bills offensive impediment, McDermott's handcuffs or Daboll's shortcomings..........

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Allen and the offense will improve greatly next season and Daboll will then be out the door

 (HC gig) and, hopefully, someone on the offensive staff will get promoted to continue what is being built.

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1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...possibly...so answer my question as to who is the Bills offensive impediment, McDermott's handcuffs or Daboll's shortcomings..........


players. They don’t have enough on offense yet. So if I had to put that on a Person.  Beane 

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6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...so apparently Daboll is staying, which poses an interesting thread debate.....perhaps a technically astute TBDer could construct a poll thread (beyond me; I brain dead) as to whether the offense rests solely on Daboll or if McDermott has a significant influence......is Daboll handcuffed by McDermott's defensive/conservative leanings?.....or...is Daboll qualified to devise an offense with youngsters as a "plan builder" or does he need a seasoned vet group?.......questions are endless if we're going into year 3.....anybody want to take on the task?.....could be a real comprehensive debate.....

McD has no clue about offense.  I think he leaves everything up to Daboll. Then the only time he gets involved is when the Bills maintain a small lead. That's when he encourages Daboll to pull it back. They have to reevaluate and increase their level of offensive aggressiveness this season.

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6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...possibly...so answer my question as to who is the Bills offensive impediment, McDermott's handcuffs or Daboll's shortcomings..........

I honestly blame it on Allen’s development and the offenses ability to not execute the simplest of things sometimes. We are lacking playmakers and just incorporated 9 new offensive players. Takes time to gel. If what players say about this system being so complex and so much reading of angles and coverages it has the sounds of Allen just getting better game to game as he mostly has been. Daboll does call some dumb ****  though. 

I have felt like they don’t trust Allen most of the season to not turn the ball over and play reckless.  So they rely on the safe game and the defense to keep them in the game. They’ll cut Allen loose if they have to in the 4th quarter. Regardless they all just got seriously embarrassed, they are all aware they need to add more weapons and playmakers and there’s zero reason rather Allen develops more or not, to not cut loose next season. 

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16 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Like I need the shingles.....

You need the shingles-without them your roof would cave in.  

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Bridges everywhere are lined with Daboll haters...

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1 hour ago, peterpan said:

"yo beaney baby, how much would it cost to trade for Mike Evans????" -- Daboll

 

Bills could have had him in the 2014 ,draft at no. 4, but instead chose Samy Watkins

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17 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

 

I don't know why anyone would be interested in McDaniels. He was a disaster in Denver and bailed on Indianapolis.  What has he proven other than that Tom Brady likes him?  Anybody could be Tom Brady's OC and look good on paper.  

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

All Browns fans right now “at least it’s not Daboll”

 

As are Bills fans saying "too bad it wasn't Daboll"...

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Just now, Albany,n.y. said:

I don't know why anyone would be interested in McDaniels. He was a disaster in Denver and bailed on Indianapolis.  What has he proven other than that Tom Brady likes him?  Anybody could be Tom Brady's OC and look good on paper.  


he wasn’t even in the final 3 for Cle. That was Stefanski, Daboll and Saleh. 
 

mcDaniels was the Owners apple of their eye. But trusted and listened to DePodesta for once. 

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4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

McD has no clue about offense.  I think he leaves everything up to Daboll. Then the only time he gets involved is when the Bills maintain a small lead. That's when he encourages Daboll to pull it back. They have to reevaluate and increase their level of offensive aggressiveness this season.

 

...I'm with ya bro......BUT....does what he "leaves to Daboll" come with rigid, conservative parameters?.....a/k/a is Daboll limited?......or are Daboll's offensive play calling skill sets limited because of HIM?.....just some of my Daboll observations (FWIW)......will employ gimmickry or cutesy plays (good, bad or indifferent)......finds something that is working but prematurely abandons it......offensive game plan is shut down and we're faced with inability to adjust or counter...."it's the personnel stupid" was the battle cry last year.....but don't GOOD coaches devise game plans that play to their personnel strengths?....did he?.....

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49 minutes ago, Nitro said:

Daboll has to be disappointed.  Cleveland is being Cleveland.  They will be CB looking for a new HC in two years 

 

tell Daboll not to worry. Cleveland being Cleveland the job will be open again this time next year. 😊

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1 hour ago, Steptide said:

Kinda happy about this. I think Allen needs daboll next season 

I kinda agree👍

 

Go Bills!!!

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1 hour ago, Dopey said:

Welcome back, Daboll. Ok Beane, bring in a couple more playmakers and we're good.

This is how I'm feeling. 

I think Daboll and McDermott will learn from the Houston game and do some growing , adjusting and upgrading of their own. 

Glad he's back

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Baker is well on the way to being a bust, and his attitude is not what you want to see

 

Can this guy get Baker to buy into being coached? If not then good luck.

 

 

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