TroutDog Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) On his show just now, he really believes Brady is gone and questioned whether they will win the AFCE next year. Let’s all hope he’s right: I believe he is. Edited January 6, 2020 by TroutDog 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I hope Brady stays. I want to win the East with him still there. 12 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: I'll declare that when we actually beat them.... Stop it. This is all part of us getting ready to win the offseason! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I could see the AFCE be a 3-way fight next year. Tougher schedules, lots of west coast road games for us. MIA could be a lot better. Jets, who knows? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: I could see the AFCE be a 3-way fight next year. Tougher schedules, lots of west coast road games for us. MIA could be a lot better. Jets, who knows? I’d agree with this but I also believe he’s right: they aren’t shoe-ins anymore and I like our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I could see the AFCE be a 3-way fight next year. Tougher schedules, lots of west coast road games for us. MIA could be a lot better. Jets, who knows? Actually, I think it will be tougher, from top to bottom, and more competetive, from top to bottom, than it has been in many years. 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I'll declare that when we actually beat them.... Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Well, glad that’s finally settled. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I dont know... Even if Brady leaves, I could see Belichick re-inventing them the way Harbough did for Baltimore. One strike against them is their below average drafting as of late. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, TroutDog said: On his show just now, he really believes Brady is gone and questioned whether they will win the AFCE next year. Let’s all hope he’s right: I believe he is. Lol it could be over but dang people have been Declaring it dead for like the last 6 years! They lose one game because of terrible play calling and the world declares the empire dead. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Brady doesn’t scare me anymore anyways 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Bellicheck went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. Nothing is over until Bellicheck is gone. With a top end QB, they could be better than they ever were with Brady. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 he gonna put his left jewel on the chopping block to back this up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol it could be over but dang people have been Declaring it dead for like the last 6 years! They lose one game because of terrible play calling and the world declares the empire dead. Lol I get the argument in the past when people were declaring this after a week 4 loss against Miami or KC or whatever. You have to admit that this is much different. This was the weakest Patriots team since the early 00's. Brady is at a crossroads, and even if he stays on the Patriots he is like 43. The offense just lost its most dangerous weapon, and their other weapon is also getting old and beat-up. Their O-Coordinator also will likely leave. They just lost 2 meaningful home games in a row to the Dolphins and the Titans, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tannehill. They were 4-5 to close out the season, and they really didnt look strong since week 4. I would also say, another team in the AFC East appears to have it together for the first time in the Patriots' dynasty. Like I mentioned upthread, I would hesitate to count Belichick out... but there is no denying that this is a very transitional point in this 'run' like no-other time in the past 20 years or so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Brady was pretty horrible this year and Jarrett Stidham was really good in the preseason. Belichick is such a miracle worker I wouldn't rule out them replacing Brady with Stidham or another veteran and once again winning the AFC East next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Brady was pretty horrible this year and Jarrett Stidham was really good in the preseason. Belichick is such a miracle worker I wouldn't rule out them replacing Brady with Stidham or another veteran and once again winning the AFC East next year. My biggest hope is a conflict between Kraft and Belichick over Tom Brady's contract status. If they keep Brady and Belichick walks, I will declare it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Brady was pretty horrible this year and Jarrett Stidham was really good in the preseason. Belichick is such a miracle worker I wouldn't rule out them replacing Brady with Stidham or another veteran and once again winning the AFC East next year. I’m quite confident that if Stidham is the QB next season, the reign ends next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 We can all sit back and wait for the PC when Brady retires and comes out, and then realize a girly man was the dominant football player for the last two decades, it’ll be great ? G Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Bellicheck went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. Nothing is over until Bellicheck is gone. With a top end QB, they could be better than they ever were with Brady. Uh, Brady is literally the best QB ever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Maybe somebody should start a poll.... what win-loss record will win the AFCE next year? 7-9? 8-8? 9-7? etc. I think it will be something like 9-7. Tough schedule, and conference teams splitting with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: Bellicheck went 11-5 with Matt Cassell. Nothing is over until Bellicheck is gone. With a top end QB, they could be better than they ever were with Brady. And he was 14-6 with QBs not named Brady (Cassell, Jimmy, Jacoby). Bill Bellyache is the driving force. If they run off Tommy as I suspect, they'll get someone like Bridgewater or Eli Manning or Ryan Tannehill and the train keeps rolling. Even if Tommy does leave I suspect it rolls on until Bill retires and the cheating stops or at least the new coach is not as good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 This NE team was like the DEN Manning team. Won with Def and some smart QB play. NE could actually be better without Brady as weird as it sounds. Andrew Luck back in football for the Pats next year... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Brady was pretty horrible this year and Jarrett Stidham was really good in the preseason. Belichick is such a miracle worker I wouldn't rule out them replacing Brady with Stidham or another veteran and once again winning the AFC East next year. As a Pats fan, that should make you pretty darn happy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Brady was pretty horrible this year and Jarrett Stidham was really good in the preseason. Belichick is such a miracle worker I wouldn't rule out them replacing Brady with Stidham or another veteran and once again winning the AFC East next year. Of course you wouldn't rule that out. Shocker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gray Beard said: Maybe somebody should start a poll.... what win-loss record will win the AFCE next year? 7-9? 8-8? 9-7? etc. I think it will be something like 9-7. Tough schedule, and conference teams splitting with each other. 19-0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I have an uneasy feeling of laughing at their awful 2020 season then by realizing ....oh S&*# they're getting Trevor Lawrence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Percentage of games won in the 2020’s Kirk Cousins 100% Ryan Tannehill 100% Tom Brady 0% . 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBennett Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I guess it depends on what goes on....he could well be right and as we have seen they are not a SB team anymore...does Brady move on....does Bellicheck move on......do they BOTH move on?? or are they both back??? I guess id have to know that to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I could see the AFCE be a 3-way fight next year. Tougher schedules, lots of west coast road games for us. MIA could be a lot better. Jets, who knows? Tougher schedule, yes, BUT the advantage of playing the stronger teams at home is a benefit. If you chose top count the JETS game as a L then the Bills were 5-3 at home. I prefer to call a mulligan on the throwaway game and call it 5-2 at home when it counted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Super Hot Take Sal is what they call this guy around the water cooler. So bold.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 34 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol it could be over but dang people have been Declaring it dead for like the last 6 years! They lose one game because of terrible play calling and the world declares the empire dead. Lol Not me! They’ve been the measuring stick for 20 years but I truly believe Brady is done and he’s a primary cog to the wheel that made it go. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol it could be over but dang people have been Declaring it dead for like the last 6 years! They lose one game because of terrible play calling and the world declares the empire dead. Lol Yes but Brady's deal with Satan only had a 20-year term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, ngbills said: This NE team was like the DEN Manning team. Won with Def and some smart QB play. NE could actually be better without Brady as weird as it sounds. Andrew Luck back in football for the Pats next year... we need a "barf" emoji for posts like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I expect to be better than NE in 2020, whether Tom stays or goes. I'm sure the Bills braintrust is targeting the division championship as indeed they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Herc11 said: I hope Brady stays. I want to win the East with him still there. Agreed. Let us make it official his time is up. That would be so sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 The Pats will get a FA QB to replace Brady. Someone like Bridgewater, Tanny, Brees, Rivers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 wait... Sal Carpaccio, or Marinara? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Will depend somewhat on what league hands down as punishment for Spygate 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I get the argument in the past when people were declaring this after a week 4 loss against Miami or KC or whatever. You have to admit that this is much different. This was the weakest Patriots team since the early 00's. Brady is at a crossroads, and even if he stays on the Patriots he is like 43. The offense just lost its most dangerous weapon, and their other weapon is also getting old and beat-up. Their O-Coordinator also will likely leave. They just lost 2 meaningful home games in a row to the Dolphins and the Titans, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tannehill. They were 4-5 to close out the season, and they really didnt look strong since week 4. I would also say, another team in the AFC East appears to have it together for the first time in the Patriots' dynasty. Like I mentioned upthread, I would hesitate to count Belichick out... but there is no denying that this is a very transitional point in this 'run' like no-other time in the past 20 years or so. Oh it definitely could be over! I just laugh at how people jump all the time on it. i wouldn’t say this is the first time an AFC team had their stuff together, I mean the Jets did make the AFC Cbampionship game a couple times with butt fumble Sanchez.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, arcane said: Uh, Brady is literally the best QB ever Most overrated QB ever. If Bellicheck had Peyton Manning, Pats win 10+ Super Bowls in a row. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) I think it is too. Belichek will always be tough, but this isn't Jacoby Brissett/Matt Cassell part 2. The Bills, Jets and Dolphins are all capable of beating NE next year. Buffalo is certainly capable of winning the division. The Jets might right the ship if they stop drafting poorly and making stupid FA decisions - Darnold, Bell, Moseley and Adams are at least somewhat decent building blocks. Regardless, the AFCE then, is much different that it is now. They have competition, and won't have 6 easy landing spot divisional games. Lets hope the Bills seize the day. Edited January 6, 2020 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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