billsfan_34 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Cleveland - Kitchens returns; it has only been a year Jax - Doug is gone, how could he not be after firing the President of Operations. New guy will want to bring in his own coach and GM. NYG - Shurmur is gone, the Mara's have seen enough Dallas - Garret is gone Washington - Doesn't matter, Snyder needs to be gone for them to win Pittsburgh - Tomlin is fired. He's not the guy for the team after Big Ben; Tomlin is in way over his head right now. Your kidding with Tomlin right? Not a chance in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: They lost their #1 quarterback, running back, tight end and receiver for stretches. I mean this isn’t even a conversation if their defense wasn’t so good. The D got them the record mostly. But a lot of those guys playing skill positions are barely practice squad worthy. Conner, McDonald, and JuJu only missed about 10 games total, but I see your point about the parallels of the defense carrying the offense. I still think their elite O-line and the presence of those guys for most of the year is better than what the Bills had in 2017 though (and yes I know our O-line was pretty good that year, but they weren't perennial all-pros). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, 416BillsFan said: Flores is super safe next year, this a complete rebuild and he has the players playing hard. Quinn likely won't see November if they get off to a slow start. I think Miami have finally found themselves a coach. I’m impressed with Flores. They have some nice pieces and a lot of draft picks. They need to find a QB though. I think Miami and the Bills will be contending in the AFC East for years to come. NE and NYJ will implode. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Cleveland, Jacksonville, Washington, NYG and Carolina. If Houston loses to the Bills in the 1st round O'Brien will be fired. Detroit is delaying the inevitable and really should be moving on from Stromboli. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Denver anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, stuvian said: Wondering what the Bucs will do with Arians and Winston Wel, it was reported as you probably know Winston is getting tagged, but I’m not so sure. The analysts down here think the Glazers do a 180 on him. Arians and Bowles are completely safe. Licht has history with Arians at Arizona, and both have four year contracts. The Glazers won’t pull the plug on Mgmt or coaching. I wish we would give Winston the boot as he hasn’t improved at all in five years. The fans are so sick of him. I know there is a lot of sentiment they move up in the draft and find their next QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Urban Meyer lands in Wa. Does McCarthy land somewhere this year (Dallas)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Cleveland - Kitchens returns; it has only been a year Jax - Doug is gone, how could he not be after firing the President of Operations. New guy will want to bring in his own coach and GM. NYG - Shurmur is gone, the Mara's have seen enough Dallas - Garret is gone Washington - Doesn't matter, Snyder needs to be gone for them to win Pittsburgh - Tomlin is fired. He's not the guy for the team after Big Ben; Tomlin is in way over his head right now. Tomlin is not getting fired. No way, no how. For the Steelers to even be in contention in week 17 was a damned miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Cleveland - Kitchens returns; it has only been a year Jax - Doug is gone, how could he not be after firing the President of Operations. New guy will want to bring in his own coach and GM. NYG - Shurmur is gone, the Mara's have seen enough Dallas - Garret is gone Washington - Doesn't matter, Snyder needs to be gone for them to win Pittsburgh - Tomlin is fired. He's not the guy for the team after Big Ben; Tomlin is in way over his head right now. Excellent coach, he would be unemployed maybe a minute. NY Giants would love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Cleveland - Kitchens returns; it has only been a year Jax - Doug is gone, how could he not be after firing the President of Operations. New guy will want to bring in his own coach and GM. NYG - Shurmur is gone, the Mara's have seen enough Dallas - Garret is gone Washington - Doesn't matter, Snyder needs to be gone for them to win Pittsburgh - Tomlin is fired. He's not the guy for the team after Big Ben; Tomlin is in way over his head right now. agree with everything you say exc Tomlin.he is a great coach ..are you nuts?? Pburgh doesnt make stupid moves like that.Thats why they are a great franchise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Kitchens out!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) I predict Jim Harbaugh will leave Michigan and either be the Cowboys or Giants HC in 2020. Edited December 30, 2019 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, MPT said: Conner, McDonald, and JuJu only missed about 10 games total, but I see your point about the parallels of the defense carrying the offense. I still think their elite O-line and the presence of those guys for most of the year is better than what the Bills had in 2017 though (and yes I know our O-line was pretty good that year, but they weren't perennial all-pros). We also had Tyrod, and for all his faults he wasn’t tossing up 50/50 balls all game like duck and he did get us quite a bit of rushing first downs. It’s a bit of a wash. But a similar thing in coaches getting the most from their players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Who needs to wait till Monday? Not the Brownies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valle78787878 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 KITCHENS JUST FIRED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Real McNasty said: Who needs to wait till Monday? Not the Brownies! not for nothing but they probably should have kept Williams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I’ll go out on a limb and pick Lynn in LA. I don’t think it’s cause he’s a bad coach, as an organization they are just in a weird place. Rivers is probably done there. Is it smart to actually sign him back up for them? Obviously Gordon is probably done there. Do they resign Ekeler? Keenan Allen is a little older. Hunter Henry? Worth money or always injured? Lynn made one mistake that I know of playing Gordon so much when Ekeler is just light years ahead of him this season. It’s a team to watch. And a team that is in a very crucial crossroads. I can see wanting to go in a fresh direction if they’re letting some of those players above walk. I can also see wanting to pair a new coach with a new quarterback. Once again I like Lynn. I don’t think he deserves to be fired. But I think he could be based on where the chargers are at. I think it’s possible Lynn in LA bites it so they can let Brady pick his new coach. You know the hot new rumor is that is where Brady wants to play his last 1-2 seasons since they have good WR talent, a good defense and will be rebuilding their QB situation soon. Maybe he drags his OC with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, wppete said: Black Monday tomorrow in the NFL. What are your predictions??? Cleveland - Kitchens out for sure? Jacksonville - St. Doug out? NYG - Shurmur gone? Dallas - Garrett fired? Washington - Are they going to hire Rivera? Prob the smartest thing they can do. Who else???? What about the hires? Any surprise new coaches? -If Kitchens is not out than its the same with the Brownies...lol....kitchens should be out with OBJ...dorsey etc -Evil Doug will be looking for a new home (who ever will take him)....he's gonzo... -NYG......not sure......maybe another season im thinking if a better option presents -Garrett is gone like Turkey dinner on XMAS -Washington will upgrade for sure........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Lynn, lions coach and marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Locomark said: I think it’s possible Lynn in LA bites it so they can let Brady pick his new coach. You know the hot new rumor is that is where Brady wants to play his last 1-2 seasons since they have good WR talent, a good defense and will be rebuilding their QB situation soon. Maybe he drags his OC with him? a rumor you just started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Why? Have you not noticed the crappy job he has done with the QB situation between Duck Hodges and Mason Rudolph? Tomlin played both like it is pre season, switching between the two of them. He could have got the team in the playoffs, but didn't...for two years in a row. Not many teams make it to the post season when their starting QB on IR. Hodges and Rudolph aren’t any answers at QB. Hodges was an UDFA our of Samford...who has a successful season as a coach with him? Tomlin did a good job this year. Not only did he lose Big Ben, he lost AB. Tomlin was in the conversation of COY just two weeks ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Your kidding with Tomlin right? Not a chance in hell Giants would be waiting like a child on Christmas Eve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, the skycap said: Giants would be waiting like a child on Christmas Eve Yep! That dude coaches his butt off this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Tcali said: agree with everything you say exc Tomlin.he is a great coach ..are you nuts?? Pburgh doesnt make stupid moves like that.Thats why they are a great franchise Yeah agreed, and they’ve only had 3 head coaches in the past 50 years. The Rooneys do not pull the trigger that easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, mannc said: No way is Flores in the hot seat in MIA. He did a great job with a team most said was one of the least talented NFL rosters in years. He’s already accomplished something McDermott has failed at six straight times. you're right, my bad. i got the gase failures confused Edited December 30, 2019 by /dev/null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Not many teams make it to the post season when their starting QB on IR. Hodges and Rudolph aren’t any answers at QB. Hodges was an UDFA our of Samford...who has a successful season as a coach with him? Tomlin did a good job this year. Not only did he lose Big Ben, he lost AB. Tomlin was in the conversation of COY just two weeks ago. What about last year? What was Tomlin's excuse last year, he had AB, Big Ben, and JuJu. I think Tomlin has vastly underperformed with the talent he has had over the years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: No chance Tomlin is fired. This.... But next year might be it, many rumors that the Rooney's and ownership.group is growing very impatient 2 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: how many Super Bowls they have? Pretty sure the fans will be ok. To win 8 games with Devlin Hodges and Mason Rudolph is not shabby sound like a steeler fan type of reply....how many super bowls do we have? lol. Most of those coming in the 70s, and Ben's time winding down, I think tomlin still leaves much to be desired. That said, that organization wont fire him this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: What about last year? What was Tomlin's excuse last year, he had AB, Big Ben, and JuJu. I think Tomlin has vastly underperformed with the talent he has had over the years. He’s got a career .645 winning percentage and been to the playoffs 8 times with a Super Bowl victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Tcali said: agree with everything you say exc Tomlin.he is a great coach ..are you nuts?? Pburgh doesnt make stupid moves like that.Thats why they are a great franchise Nope. IMO, Tomlin has greatly underperformed with the talent he has had over the seasons. He's been the coach since 2007 and is starting to get long in the tooth, actually for the past two years. It's not like Pitt is making an irrational decision by firing Tomlin; sometimes change is good after a long tenure...for both parties. I personally don't care what Pitt does with Tomlin, it's just my opinion as an outsider who is not a Steeler fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He’s got a career .645 winning percentage and been to the playoffs 8 times with a Super Bowl victory. And he's been to the Conference Championship once since 2010, where they lost to NE. I think Tomlin is getting long in the tooth in Pitt, sometimes change is good. This is one of those times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 hours ago, stuvian said: Wonder if Garrett survives with a post season win Cowboys out, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: Wel, it was reported as you probably know Winston is getting tagged, but I’m not so sure. The analysts down here think the Glazers do a 180 on him. Arians and Bowles are completely safe. Licht has history with Arians at Arizona, and both have four year contracts. The Glazers won’t pull the plug on Mgmt or coaching. I wish we would give Winston the boot as he hasn’t improved at all in five years. The fans are so sick of him. I know there is a lot of sentiment they move up in the draft and find their next QB. TB needs to part ways with their gm. He drafted Winston so those two go together I can't believe they will trot Winston out there again in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: And he's been to the Conference Championship once since 2010, where they lost to NE. I think Tomlin is getting long in the tooth in Pitt, sometimes change is good. This is one of those times. Who hasn’t lost to NE? The Patriots since 2010 have been to the Super Bowl 5 times...5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Who hasn’t lost to NE? The Patriots since 2010 have been to the Super Bowl 5 times...5. And Pitt hasn't figured out how to beat them. A team like the Steelers should have a better record than 3-11 since the 2007 season, which is Tomlin's first year as HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: And Pitt hasn't figured out how to beat them. A team like the Steelers should have a better record than 3-11 since the 2007 season, which is Tomlin's first year as HC. Like I said...who has? What the Pats have done in the last 10 years is insane. 5 Super Bowls, 8 AFC Championships and 11 division titles in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Like I said...who has? What the Pats have done in the last 10 years is insane. 5 Super Bowls, 8 AFC Championships and 11 division titles in a row. Living in Pittsburgh, losing to new England "used to be" the concern/issue. Over the past few years. it's been the steelers 'playing down' to competition and losing games they have no business losing. The past 2 years, it has cost them a playoff berth. Injuries hit them hard this year, but they should have won last week and got steamrolled (over 200 yards rushing against) by thr baltimore backups today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Patricia should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Not many teams make it to the post season when their starting QB on IR. Hodges and Rudolph aren’t any answers at QB. Hodges was an UDFA our of Samford...who has a successful season as a coach with him? Tomlin did a good job this year. Not only did he lose Big Ben, he lost AB. Tomlin was in the conversation of COY just two weeks ago. Tomlin did a good job in a tough situation. But really ... sticking with Hodges after the Bills game? When it became obvious to all that he simply wasn't an NFL QB? That's on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Tomlin did a good job in a tough situation. But really ... sticking with Hodges after the Bills game? When it became obvious to all that he simply wasn't an NFL QB? That's on him. He's kind of handcuffed because Rudolph is equally as bad. Not as turnover prone but doesn't move the ball at all on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He's kind of handcuffed because Rudolph is equally as bad. Not as turnover prone but doesn't move the ball at all on offense. I get that Rudolph wasn't good, but I think Tomlin misses the distinction between "QB with the necessary tools who isn't getting it" (kind of a Paxton Lynch or EJ Manuel type) and "QB who simply doesn't belong in the NFL" -- Rudolph would have given them some chance to win today on a day when throwing the ball in the rain was tough enough for a guy with an NFL arm and impossible for a guy with a Samford arm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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